BREAKING....Thread 4...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON

[Wingnut]

No One wants the Pali scum in their countries.  Well everyone but The guy who wears silk pantie's under his depends so his wet farts slide easier down his leg

[mystery-ak]

The Jerusalem Post
@Jerusalem_Post
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A senior #Hamas official told NBC News on Tuesday evening that the terrorist group would be willing to release all civilian hostages in one hour if the @IDF
 stops its strikes on the #Gaza Strip.

[mystery-ak]

The Jerusalem Post
@Jerusalem_Post
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"I am angry with the world that allowed the dehumanization of Israelis and sanitized the terrorism of Hamas."
@ADL
 CEO @JGreenblattADL
, said in an interview on the #HamasMassacre.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Sincere question:  Is is possible Israel doesn't know where their missiles are going?

Israel-Hamas war: At least 500 people killed in hospital bombing in Gaza, Palestinian officials claim
Sky News, Oct 17, 2023

At least 500 people have been killed in a bombing of a hospital in Gaza City, the Palestinian Health Ministry has claimed.

A spokesman for the ministry said in a statement: "Initial estimates indicate that between 200 and 300 martyrs were killed in the bombing that targeted Baptist Hospital in Gaza city."

The ministry later revised the figure to at least 500, AP and Reuters reported.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) are investigating what happened at the hospital.

Israeli military spokesman Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari said there were still no details on the hospital deaths, adding: "We will get the details and update the public. I don't know to say whether it was an Israeli air strike."

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas declared three days of mourning following the bombardment, according to state media.

Hamas released a statement following the blast calling it a "crime of genocide".


https://news.sky.com/story/israel-hamas-war-at-least-500-people-killed-in-hospital-bombing-in-gaza-palestinian-officials-claim-12986454

[Kamaji]

The Jerusalem Post
@Jerusalem_Post
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A senior #Hamas official told NBC News on Tuesday evening that the terrorist group would be willing to release all civilian hostages in one hour if the @IDF
 stops its strikes on the #Gaza Strip.

The airstrikes are having the intended effect.

[240B]

The airstrikes are having the intended effect.

He is lying. Hamas will not release anyone until they get whatever 'prisoners' they want along with 10s of millions in dollars.

[Kamaji]

Hamas killed Canadian-Israeli mom in front of her young sons, booby-trapped her body: report

By Yaron Steinbuch
Published Oct. 17, 2023

A Canadian Israeli mom was murdered in front of her two young sons by Hamas terrorists — who booby-trapped her body and then used the children as human shields, according to a report.

Adi Vital-Kaploun, 33, was killed by the terrorist group on Oct. 7 in Holit, a kibbutz near the Gaza Strip, her friends told the Globe and Mail of Canada.

The terrorists killed her in front of her two sons, 4-year-old Negev and 4-month-old Eshel, while her husband and their dad, Anani, was partying with friends at another kibbutz, friend Dina Zaslacski told the outlet.

Military officials told the family that Vital-Kaploun’s body was shoved under Negev’s bed and booby-trapped so it would explode if anyone tried to move it, Zaslacski said.

“They put bombs all over her body and her dad was in the house. Thank God he didn’t open the door,” she said, tearfully.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/10/17/hamas-killed-mom-in-front-of-her-two-young-boys-booby-trapped-her-body/

[mystery-ak]

Trey Yingst
@TreyYingst
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The region is on the brink of a much larger war. Every piece of info must be critically analyzed.

Yes, I’ve seen the videos from the hospital and the ones claiming it’s a misfire.

Hamas officials tell us it was an Israeli strike. The Israelis tell us they are investigating.

Trey Yingst
@TreyYingst
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Also can’t independently confirm the number of dead/injured. Reports indicate hundreds killed. Trying to confirm details. This will take time.

[mystery-ak]

Israel looking into alleged hospital strike: IDF spokesperson
By Olivia Land

The Israeli military is looking into reports of an alleged airstrike on a hospital in Gaza City, IDF spokesperson Rear Amd. Daniel Hagari said, according to the Times of Israel.

Hagari admitted that he did not have all the information yet, and further details would be revealed in due time, the outlet explained.

“There are a lot of airstrikes, a lot of failed rockets, and a lot of fake reports by Hamas,” he insisted.

[mystery-ak]

Palestinian president declares three days of mourning for Gaza hospital blast
By Olivia Land

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has declared a three-day mourning period following a deadly blast at a hospital in Gaza City, the BBC reported, citing Palestinian state media.

The alleged airstrike is thought to have killed as many as 500 people, many of them women and children.

Israeli officials previously said they were investigating the incident.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Israel looking into alleged hospital strike: IDF spokesperson
By Olivia Land

The Israeli military is looking into reports of an alleged airstrike on a hospital in Gaza City, IDF spokesperson Rear Amd. Daniel Hagari said, according to the Times of Israel.

Hagari admitted that he did not have all the information yet, and further details would be revealed in due time, the outlet explained.

“There are a lot of airstrikes, a lot of failed rockets, and a lot of fake reports by Hamas,” he insisted.

Isn't Israel able to say: "We did not fire a rocket at the hospital"?  Or is this a fog of war thing?

[mystery-ak]

Hundreds reported killed in Gaza hospital explosion amid rocket barrage
Rockets fired by factions in the Gaza Strip often fall short, with Palestinians killed in a number of past such incidents.
By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
OCTOBER 17, 2023 20:26
Updated: OCTOBER 17, 2023 21:33

Hundreds of people were reported killed in an explosion at the Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City on Tuesday evening, the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry reported, at the same time as a barrage of rockets were fired from the Strip toward Israel.

Officials in Gaza issued contradictory statements about casualty numbers, ranging between dozens to hundreds, with video footage reportedly from the scene showing a number of cars on fire near the hospital.

The explosion was reported at the same time that heavy rocket barrages were fired from Gaza toward central Israel.

more
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-768879

[240B]

Hamas routinely uses hospitals and schools as firing platforms for rocket fire.
My blind guess is, Hamas was firing from the hospital and set off their munitions stockpile somehow.

[DB]

Hamas routinely uses hospitals and schools as firing platforms for rocket fire.
My blind guess is, Hamas was firing from the hospital and set off their munitions stockpile somehow.

Wouldn't be surprised if one of their rockets exploded on launch starting a chain reaction with their own munitions.

[mystery-ak]

Trey Yingst
@TreyYingst
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Hamas statement to Fox: “The hospital massacre in the Gaza Strip is a crime of genocide.”

Trey Yingst
@TreyYingst
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We continue to receive information and review video. Will use this thread to provide updates as I get them. Also tune in. We have updates live every hour on Fox.

[mystery-ak]

29 minutes ago
President Abbas cancels planned meeting with Biden after Gaza City hospital blast
By Olivia Land

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has canceled his scheduled Wednesday meeting with President Joe Biden and other Middle East leaders following news of a deadly blast at a Gaza City hospital, a senior Palestinian official said.

Abbas is apparently withdrawing in protest to the deadly incident, which Hamas claims was an Israeli airstrike, the official – who spoke on the condition of anonymity – said.

Abbas was set to sit down with Biden, King Abdullah II of Jordan and Egypt’s President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi at the meeting just one day after he met again with US Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

With Post wires

[mystery-ak]

Hamas routinely uses hospitals and schools as firing platforms for rocket fire.
My blind guess is, Hamas was firing from the hospital and set off their munitions stockpile somehow.

That is one of the guesses....at least so far...

[bigheadfred]

Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו
@netanyahu

An analysis of IDF operational systems indicates that a barrage of rockets was fired by terrorists in Gaza, passing in close proximity to the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza at the time it was hit.

Intelligence from multiple sources we have in our hands indicates that Islamic Jihad is responsible for the failed rocket launch which hit the hospital in Gaza

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/Israel/status/1714366327538794512

[Kamaji]

Hamas routinely uses hospitals and schools as firing platforms for rocket fire.
My blind guess is, Hamas was firing from the hospital and set off their munitions stockpile somehow.

Most likely.

[mystery-ak]

Farida Khan
@_Faridakhan
I am Al Jazeera Journalist Farida Khan working in Khan Younis, Gaza. I saw with my own eyes that it was Hamas "Ayyash 250" Rocket.
It was Hamas misfired Rocket 🚀.
Al Jazeera is lying. I have video of that Hamas missile landing in the hospita

[mystery-ak]

OSINTdefender reposted
Faytuks News Δ
@Faytuks
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Leader of Hamas Ismail Haniyeh calls on all Palestinian people to "get out and confront the occupation and the settlers". He also calls on all Arabs and Muslims to stage protests against Israel

[mystery-ak]

Trey Yingst
@TreyYingst
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UPDATE: The Israelis say a rocket fired by Islamic Jihad is to blame for the hospital explosion that killed hundreds of Palestinians

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1714371648252490199

[mystery-ak]

Failed Islamic Jihad rocket launch caused Gaza hospital blast: IDF
By David Spector

A failed Islamic Jihad rocket launch caused the blast at the Gaza Baptist hospital, an IDF investigation concluded.

“From an analysis of the IDF’s operational systems, an enemy rocket barrage was carried out towards Israel, which passed in the vicinity of the hospital, when it was hit,” the IDF said in a statement.

The IDF went on to say that several intelligence sources indicate that "the PIJ organization is responsible for the failed [rocket] fire that hit the hospital,” the Times of Israel reports. 

https://nypost.com/2023/10/17/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-and-latest-news/

[mystery-ak]

Dozens of angry protesters storm Israeli embassy in Jordan
By David Spector

Dozens of angry protesters stormed Israeli embassy in Jordan after Hamas accused the Jewish homeland of bombing a hospital and killing hundreds, The Times of Israel reports.

Video an angry mob swarming the embassy and attempting to force their way in.

https://twitter.com/FadiAmun/status/1714358183702007915

[PeteS in CA]

The rockets Hamas uses are not guided, and many/most are home-built. Hatred and high quality are not boon companions, nor are hatred and caring about potential down-range obstacles. So either the rocket malfunctioned or the rocket operator did not notice that hospital was in the line of fire.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Farida Khan
@_Faridakhan
I am Al Jazeera Journalist Farida Khan working in Khan Younis, Gaza. I saw with my own eyes that it was Hamas "Ayyash 250" Rocket.
It was Hamas misfired Rocket 🚀.
Al Jazeera is lying. I have video of that Hamas missile landing in the hospita

Or maybe it wasn't a misfire by Hamas at all....After all, which side seems to be benefitting politically from that hospital being hit?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Dozens of angry protesters storm Israeli embassy in Jordan
By David Spector

Dozens of angry protesters stormed Israeli embassy in Jordan after Hamas accused the Jewish homeland of bombing a hospital and killing hundreds, The Times of Israel reports.

Video an angry mob swarming the embassy and attempting to force their way in.

https://twitter.com/FadiAmun/status/1714358183702007915

Are they ever not pissed though? And I bet there is some funky BO in that crowd.

[Kamaji]

Or maybe it wasn't a misfire by Hamas at all....After all, which side seems to be benefitting politically from that hospital being hit?

Good point.

[DB]

Are they ever not pissed though? And I bet there is some funky BO in that crowd.

Rage bots.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו
@netanyahu

An analysis of IDF operational systems indicates that a barrage of rockets was fired by terrorists in Gaza, passing in close proximity to the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza at the time it was hit.

Intelligence from multiple sources we have in our hands indicates that Islamic Jihad is responsible for the failed rocket launch which hit the hospital in Gaza

I doubt it will matter --- the Hamas headlines have been reported worldwide --- and reacted to..  Netanyahu quoting  the "IDF operational systems" won't be enough to overcome them.

Maybe Israel would be better off -- long term-- standing down until it figures out its goal and how to reach it.  It seems she's being battered from pillar to post.

[DB]

Farida Khan claims to have video of the rocket hitting the hospital - and it wasn't Israeli... If that's true, and Farida Khan is still there, not likely to live long.

[jafo2010]

Right_in_Virginia...
Maybe Israel would be better off -- long term-- standing down until it figures out its goal and how to reach it.

Perhaps you have not been listening.  Netanyahu has made it clear Israel's intention is the complete elimination of HAMAS.  Well, the people of Gaza elected HAMAS.  I see it as semantics.  When he says HAMAS, he means everyone in Gaza.

Major, as I said above, Netanyahu says he will destroy all of HAMAS.  Israel has warned all civilians out of Gaza.  It is my contention that anyone that stays will be deemed HAMAS, and they will be killed.

If you will recall, the USA fire bombed many cities in Japan before dropping two nuclear bombs.  This situation is very much like those days between the USA and Japan.  I fully expect and support the total annihilation of everyone in Gaza.  Egypt will have no choic but to open their border to let these undesirables into their country.  I don't blame Jordan for keeping them out, for they almost overthrew his government years ago.  He has zero love for Palestinians.

I say let Iran come and get them.  But they must be gone, having fled to another country, or killed, every last one of them.  I fully expect 1+ million to flee successfully.

[libertybele]

Perhaps you have not been listening.  Netanyahu has made it clear Israel's intention is the complete elimination of HAMAS.  Well, the people of Gaza elected HAMAS.  I see it as semantics.  When he says HAMAS, he means everyone in Gaza.

Major, as I said above, Netanyahu says he will destroy all of HAMAS.  Israel has warned all civilians out of Gaza.  It is my contention that anyone that stays will be deemed HAMAS, and they will be killed.

If you will recall, the USA fire bombed many cities in Japan before dropping two nuclear bombs.  This situation is very much like those days between the USA and Japan.  I fully expect and support the total annihilation of everyone in Gaza.  Egypt will have no choic but to open their border to let these undesirables into their country.  I don't blame Jordan for keeping them out, for they almost overthrew his government years ago.  He has zero love for Palestinians.

I say let Iran come and get them.  But they must be gone, having fled to another country, or killed, every last one of them.  I fully expect 1+ million to flee successfully.

Joe's visit isn't going to help matters; I see him fumbling and all flustered and appeasing everyone other than Bibi.

[jafo2010]

Someone has to answer for the failed defense by Israelis.  I suspect Netanyahu will take the blame eventually.

But this attack should wake Israel up to their future.  Their future is death, unless they pull their head out of their *ss and plan for a very serious war that is coming with Iran.  Iran will obtain a nuclear weapon(s), and I believe they will use it within one year on Israel.  When that happens, I can see Israel retaliating with a massive strike on Iran that kills most in the country, rendering it unlivable for 1,000 years.  It is inevitable.  That day is within the next ten years, and more likely in the next five years.

Israel fails to eliminate the lion share of the Gaza population, then these murderous barbarians will attack again, in greater numbers.  Israel should not be faced with this sh*t again.  This act of war must end with Gaza being eliminated as a place for anyone ever to reside again.  One way of increasing the safety from these barbaric animals.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Dallas, Texas protest video ----

https://truthsocial.com/@CitizenFreePress/111252178973915438

[Right_in_Virginia]

Perhaps you have not been listening.  Netanyahu has made it clear Israel's intention is the complete elimination of HAMAS.

As he says at the start of every war with them ---- until he agrees to the terms of the ceasefire.   

[GtHawk]

The Jerusalem Post
@Jerusalem_Post
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A senior #Hamas official told NBC News on Tuesday evening that the terrorist group would be willing to release all civilian hostages in one hour if the @IDF
 stops its strikes on the #Gaza Strip.

Yeah, sure wiling to isn't the same as will and either way nothing they say can be trusted.

[jafo2010]

A retired US general indicated we provide Palestinians with $250 million in aid.  Abbass is refusing to meet with Wrecking Ball Joe.  I say end all money headed to the Palestinians from the USA.  This is insane, the US giving these murderous barbarians money.

The USA was also providing about $160 million in aid to Russia.   Are we still aiding them too?  If so, this is insane what this country is doing.  We need to purge all in government today and elect people with the mindset of representing USA citizens.

The time has come when America First is not enough.  It must be USA ONLY for five or ten years until we gain control of our budget.

30 Americans dead in the Israel attack by the murderous Palestinians.  15+ known missing.  This is one of the worst terrorists acts against Americans let alone what they did to the Israelis.

Israel cannot protect their own people and POTUS is flying there tomorrow?  Publicized to be there, if the mussies launch 1,000 rockets at the location of where POTUS is supposed to be, what happens if they kill Biden?  Seriously, what happens?

[Fishrrman]

240b wrote:
"Do not know what Israel is doing. But the time for a reactionary 'smackdown' of Hamas everybody expected is already passed. Every day that passes the war fades from a justified response into a routine situation."

And RinVa replied:
"The iron to strike is no longer hot."

What may be cooling that "iron" was nothing less than...
... "Jewish guilt".

Israel is great at "self-defense" on their own soil.
But when it comes to being ruthless against their enemies -- particularly where attacks will impact civilian populations -- they are much more... hesitant.

They know that since WW2 and their treatment by the Germans that they wear a "cloak of moral superiority" over those who would attack them.

To respond with equal (but necessary) brutality would result in the loss of that moral "shield".

Hence, their unwillingness to do so.

They should take Winston Churchill to mind:
“Sometimes doing your best is not good enough. Sometimes you must do what is required.”

[Fishrrman]

PeteS observes:
"The rockets Hamas uses are not guided, and many/most are home-built. Hatred and high quality are not boon companions, nor are hatred and caring about potential down-range obstacles. So either the rocket malfunctioned or the rocket operator did not notice that hospital was in the line of fire."

Don't know about you folks, but I'm sittin' here almost amused that the palis could wipe out a hospital with one of their own missiles.

Sorry if you don't like this post.

Aside:
Even though it's obvious who did it, this is going to impact Israeli plans to invade.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Israel is great at "self-defense" on their own soil.

Not any more @Fishrrman

When it comes to being ruthless against their enemies -- particularly where attacks will impact civilian populations -- they are much more... hesitant.

They know that since WW2 and their treatment by the Germans that they wear a "cloak of moral superiority" over those who would attack them.

To respond with equal (but necessary) brutality would result in the loss of that moral "shield".

Agree.

[corbe]

   I'm not feeling the Israeli Love with that one, RiV.  Is it because Netanyahu congratulated Biteme?   

[Right_in_Virginia]

unusual_whales
@unusual_whales

Jordan's foreign minister says the summit between Palestine and Egyptian leaders with Biden in Amman on Wednesday is cancelled, per the Economist.

5:32 PM · Oct 17, 2023

[Right_in_Virginia]

   I'm not feeling the Israeli Love with that one, RiV.  Is it because Netanyahu congratulated Biteme?

With what one? @corbe    I've been posting all day.

[mountaineer]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸
@RepMTG
Biden wants $100 billion in aid for Ukraine and Israel.  I will vote NO.

Biden wants to bring in millions of Palestinian refugees.  I will vote NO.

Biden refuses to secure America’s border and lets in millions and we are $33 trillion in debt.

Biden is America last!
5:19 PM · Oct 17, 2023

[Right_in_Virginia]

Netanyahu proclaims an "Axis of Evil" that the entire world must unite to defeat, just as it united to defeat the Nazis. Which would seem to indicate Israel is preparing for a war not just against Hamas, but also Iran, and expects USA/Europe to join this "battle of civilization"

(Video)

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1714322679174410322

[corbe]

   Most all of your posts in this Thread @Right_in_Virginia You seem all too eager to blame Israel.  I assume it's the reason I stated, he wasn't on board with the Trump 'It was stolen from ME shitshow' from the very beginning.

[Right_in_Virginia]

   Most all of your posts in this Thread @Right_in_Virginia You seem all too eager to blame Israel.  I assume it's the reason I stated, he wasn't on board with the Trump 'It was stolen from ME shitshow' from the very beginning.

Please take your silliness to another thread @corbe