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Re: Live Thread: GOP Debate
« Reply #300 on: August 24, 2023, 09:35:21 am »
Did Vivek say that reverse racism isn't racism?

No, he said it IS racism.

I specifically noted that when I heard it.
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« Reply #301 on: August 24, 2023, 09:37:16 am »

@Kamaji

That is hilarious coming from a DeSanctimonious cultist.

What do you love the most about him,the way his face pales and he breaks into what has to be THE most fake smile and laughter on the planet when asked a tough question?

I kinda like Governor DeSantis because the chances of him going to jail are slim and none.  :pondering:
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« Reply #302 on: August 24, 2023, 09:38:54 am »
I kinda like Governor DeSantis because the chances of him going to jail are slim and none.  :pondering:

His record was the best of anyone up there.

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« Reply #303 on: August 24, 2023, 09:39:04 am »

https://twitter.com/TheMagaHulk/status/1694535887386746940

I was expecting the film to show the “screaming rant”.

Play the screaming rant.  This tells me nothing.
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« Reply #304 on: August 24, 2023, 09:41:13 am »
I hope everyone heard and noticed that Nikki Haley was the only candidate tonight who was pro- climate change as an issue!!!!!!!

I will never vote for this woke wench!!!!!


Has DeSantis had a change of heart @catfish1957

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« Reply #305 on: August 24, 2023, 09:46:17 am »
I was expecting the film to show the “screaming rant”.

Play the screaming rant.  This tells me nothing.


Although I thought Brett was rather pissed with Ronny, I'll ping you if I find Ronny's rant @the OlLine Rebel   Promise  happy77

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« Reply #306 on: August 24, 2023, 09:49:12 am »
The party needs to get rid of the live audience.  It only encourages the candidates to be hysterical, especially on foreign policy.

I would agree generally, but it did show that non-Trump Republican events CAN fill a large auditorium.
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« Reply #307 on: August 24, 2023, 09:51:58 am »
The party needs to get rid of the live audience.  It only encourages the candidates to be hysterical, especially on foreign policy.

Sigh. I saw a bunch of white grumpy old men in the audience, hehe. I noted that mentally.

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« Reply #308 on: August 24, 2023, 09:53:09 am »
His record was the best of anyone up there.

I am still floored no one on the stage last night called out the orange piece of shit, on how a nation $33T in debt can afford another $15T in cost for that silly Freedom City garbage he's been pushing on the stump.
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« Reply #309 on: August 24, 2023, 09:54:10 am »

@Kamaji

That is hilarious coming from a DeSanctimonious cultist.

What do you love the most about him,the way his face pales and he breaks into what has to be THE most fake smile and laughter on the planet when asked a tough question?

@sneakypete

This is the exact issue that divides us.

I don't think anyone here would dispute that Trump is smoother and more charismatic than is DeSantis.   The difference is that we don't value being smooth more than we do a consistent record of conservative accomplishments.   DeSantis is a doer rather than a talker.

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« Reply #310 on: August 24, 2023, 09:54:48 am »
I kinda like Governor DeSantis because the chances of him going to jail are slim and none.  :pondering:

What does it say about a candidate and his cult needing Totalitarian lawfare to remove an opponent?    *hmmmm*

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« Reply #311 on: August 24, 2023, 09:56:22 am »
Has DeSantis had a change of heart @catfish1957



Haley was the only one who went on record to support it last night. Can't you focus for just 3 minutes.  I can't help that RDS has gotten into your head like Brain Rot.
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« Reply #312 on: August 24, 2023, 09:58:30 am »
What does it say about a candidate and his cult needing Totalitarian lawfare to remove an opponent?    *hmmmm*

@deb

Did I ever say anything about needing Trump to be removed in that manner? Are you under the impression that this is pleasing to me?
I like the fact that incarceration is not something to worry about with DeSantis. That’s all I said.
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« Reply #313 on: August 24, 2023, 09:58:58 am »
What does it say about a candidate and his cult needing Totalitarian lawfare to remove an opponent?    *hmmmm*

@deb

That's two posts that the term RDS and cult has appeared on this thread.

To me that's pretty damned funny, considering you and your MAGAT ilk are text book Jonestown practioners. You people are insane.
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« Reply #314 on: August 24, 2023, 10:02:23 am »
Vivek Ramaswamy last night:  "The climate change agenda is a hoax and the reality is the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy.”


https://twitter.com/DanielTurnerPTF/status/1694708404714156033

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« Reply #315 on: August 24, 2023, 10:03:40 am »
I'm not familiar with the people you're citing here @the OlLine Rebel ----- so I can't comment on it.  I did, however, post several videos of RDS, himself, detailing his response to COVID and they conflict with what he's claiming now.

The only person you might have known would be the federal bureaucrat.  I wish I had paid attention.  She was NOT Birx.

You would not know my friend, I’m just relaying an anecdote of a mother who lives there.
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« Reply #316 on: August 24, 2023, 10:03:44 am »
His record was the best of anyone up there.

That's really his biggest strength. He did best in the debate when he was pointing to the record of what he had accomplished rather than just saying what he would do.

So on the issue of education, he was able to point to banning the teaching of critical race theory and gender studies from Florida classrooms.  On the issue of crime, while everybody else just talked about Soros' prosecutors, he pointed out that he had fired two of them who were refusing to enforce the law in Florida.

To me, that is the real difference between him and the rest of the candidates. We're all used to politicians talking about the things that they would do differently, but it is rare that they can point so specifically to actual examples of how they have done that.

This is also an area where DeSantis is miles above Trump - He has proved his willingness to take strong actions despite massive condemnation from the left.  The left and MSM went after him hard for getting CRT and gender studies out of classrooms, but he stuck with it anyway. They did the same thing when he fired the prosecutors, filing lawsuits against him, etc.. But he's stuck to his guns.

The most obvious difference though, is on COVID. RiV's revisionism aside, most of us remember actually reading at the time how much flack DeSantis was taking for defying government recommendations. I remember reading all the articles from the Washington Post, from the New York times, and Fauci's own comments, saying how DeSantis was essentially murdering older people in Florida.   He took all that flak but stuck to his decisions anyway.

In contrast, the excuse we have been offered on this very site  for Trump's actions regarding Fauci and those recommendations is that he would have taken too much political flack if he had rejected Fauci's recommendations or removed him from that position.  Trump shied away from that kind of political heat, and DeSantis didn't. That is the difference to me.

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« Reply #318 on: August 24, 2023, 10:07:01 am »
That's really his biggest strength. He did best in the debate when he was pointing to the record of what he had accomplished rather than just saying what he would do.

So on the issue of education, he was able to point to banning the teaching of critical race theory and gender studies from Florida classrooms.  On the issue of crime, while everybody else just talked about Soros' prosecutors, he pointed out that he had fired two of them who were refusing to enforce the law in Florida.

To me, that is the real difference between him and the rest of the candidates. We're all used to politicians talking about the things that they would do differently, but it is rare that they can point so specifically to actual examples of how they have done that.

This is also an area where DeSantis is miles above Trump - He has proved his willingness to take strong actions despite massive condemnation from the left.  The left and MSM went after him hard for getting CRT and gender studies out of classrooms, but he stuck with it anyway. They did the same thing when he fired the prosecutors, filing lawsuits against him, etc.. But he's stuck to his guns.

The most obvious difference though, is on COVID. RiV's revisionism aside, most of us remember actually reading at the time how much flack DeSantis was taking for defying government recommendations. I remember reading all the articles from the Washington Post, from the New York times, and Fauci's own comments, saying how DeSantis was essentially murdering older people in Florida.   He took all that flak but stuck to his decisions anyway.

In contrast, the excuse we have been offered on this very site  for Trump's actions regarding Fauci and those recommendations is that he would have taken too much political flack if he had rejected Fauci's recommendations or removed him from that position.  Trump shied away from that kind of political heat, and DeSantis didn't. That is the difference to me.

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« Reply #319 on: August 24, 2023, 10:07:24 am »
What does it say about a candidate and his cult needing Totalitarian lawfare to remove an opponent?    *hmmmm*

@deb

Not a fair criticism at all, because Desantis condemned the lawfare like anyone else, although you're apparently implying that he had something to do with it. Trump also damaged his own case and muddied the waters in that case, and the other cases, including the bogus rape one. He cannot keep his mouth shut is the problem, and it's always been his problem. Had he kept his mouth shut on January 6th he probably would have been harder to prosecute. Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should.

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« Reply #320 on: August 24, 2023, 10:07:26 am »
That's two posts that the term RDS and cult has appeared on this thread.

To me that's pretty damned funny, considering you and your MAGAT ilk are text book Jonestown practioners. You people are insane.

I second you.

It’s why I’m here now to get some rest from the hateful mud-slinging on TOS.
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« Reply #321 on: August 24, 2023, 10:08:19 am »
P.S. Gov Nikk’s hissy fit made every married man in America cringe. The most common reaction from them being a massive outbreak of shrinkage.

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« Reply #322 on: August 24, 2023, 10:09:24 am »
DeSantis is a Paul Ryan puppet, Ramaswamy is Obama 2.0 I'll pass on both of them. Others opinions will differ.
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« Reply #323 on: August 24, 2023, 10:11:21 am »
That's really his biggest strength. He did best in the debate when he was pointing to the record of what he had accomplished rather than just saying what he would do.

So on the issue of education, he was able to point to banning the teaching of critical race theory and gender studies from Florida classrooms.  On the issue of crime, while everybody else just talked about Soros' prosecutors, he pointed out that he had fired two of them who were refusing to enforce the law in Florida.

To me, that is the real difference between him and the rest of the candidates. We're all used to politicians talking about the things that they would do differently, but it is rare that they can point so specifically to actual examples of how they have done that.

This is also an area where DeSantis is miles above Trump - He has proved his willingness to take strong actions despite massive condemnation from the left.  The left and MSM went after him hard for getting CRT and gender studies out of classrooms, but he stuck with it anyway. They did the same thing when he fired the prosecutors, filing lawsuits against him, etc.. But he's stuck to his guns.

The most obvious difference though, is on COVID. RiV's revisionism aside, most of us remember actually reading at the time how much flack DeSantis was taking for defying government recommendations. I remember reading all the articles from the Washington Post, from the New York times, and Fauci's own comments, saying how DeSantis was essentially murdering older people in Florida.   He took all that flak but stuck to his decisions anyway.

In contrast, the excuse we have been offered on this very site  for Trump's actions regarding Fauci and those recommendations is that he would have taken too much political flack if he had rejected Fauci's recommendations or removed him from that position.  Trump shied away from that kind of political heat, and DeSantis didn't. That is the difference to me.

you have summarized it beautifully and I would add, Desantis took a previously purple state and has implemented a solid conservative record and won re election in a bad midterm year for the GOP. To me, that is a stellar record.

Here's the problem, Trump's style is more suited for the modern age of Twitter clips and such, bombastic and over the top, and meme-ready. Desantis' record and style isn't as flashy.

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« Reply #324 on: August 24, 2023, 10:12:05 am »
DeSantis is a Paul Ryan puppet, Ramaswamy is Obama 2.0 I'll pass on both of them. Others opinions will differ.

I think there's at least one difference between DeSantis and Ryan you'd have to acknowledge. Ryan never seemed to care two squats about cultural issues.  DeSantis has made opposition to CRT, gender crap, etc.. a major pillar of his campaign.  Ryan would never have done what DeSantis did in Florida on those issues.
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