Hurricane Hilary thread

[cato potatoe]

The radar is indicating several inches of rain in the San Gabriel Mountains.  Storms are pretty common in the winter, but much of it is stored in a temporary snowpack.  We will see if any problems arise overnight.

[GtHawk]

The radar is indicating several inches of rain in the San Gabriel Mountains.  Storms are pretty common in the winter, but much of it is stored in a temporary snowpack.  We will see if any problems arise overnight.

There have been problems, areas have been flooded, mud slides, nothing like what people faced on Maui but still major for the people experiencing it.

[mystery-ak]

 States of emergency Tropical Storm Hilary moves into California as flooding, mudslides wreak havoc after state is hit with earthquake

Tropical Storm Hilary’s worst impacts are being felt across Southern California and the Desert Southwest with flooding rain, mudslides and the occasional spotting of funnel clouds.

Pounding rain and ferocious winds flooded roads and brought down trees across Southern California on Sunday night as Tropical Storm Hilary unleashed its wrath on the region.

The historic storm, previously classified as a hurricane, put millions under flash flood watches and warnings as the heavy rain trapped dozens of cars in rising floodwaters in Palm Springs and the surrounding communities.

Before the storm impacted the area, residents were startled by a 5.1-magnitude earthquake and ensuing aftershocks that rocked Ojai, a city about 80 miles northwest of Los Angeles, on Sunday afternoon.

more
https://nypost.com/2023/08/20/center-of-tropical-storm-hilary-moves-into-california-as-storm-wreaks/

[Wingnut]

Seems it never rains in Southern California
Seems I've often heard that kind of talk before
It never rains in California
But girl, don't they warn ya?
It pours, man, it pours

[GtHawk]

 States of emergency Tropical Storm Hilary moves into California as flooding, mudslides wreak havoc after state is hit with earthquake

Tropical Storm Hilary’s worst impacts are being felt across Southern California and the Desert Southwest with flooding rain, mudslides and the occasional spotting of funnel clouds.

Pounding rain and ferocious winds flooded roads and brought down trees across Southern California on Sunday night as Tropical Storm Hilary unleashed its wrath on the region.

The historic storm, previously classified as a hurricane, put millions under flash flood watches and warnings as the heavy rain trapped dozens of cars in rising floodwaters in Palm Springs and the surrounding communities.

Before the storm impacted the area, residents were startled by a 5.1-magnitude earthquake and ensuing aftershocks that rocked Ojai, a city about 80 miles northwest of Los Angeles, on Sunday afternoon.

more
https://nypost.com/2023/08/20/center-of-tropical-storm-hilary-moves-into-california-as-storm-wreaks/

People in California(everywhere?) have such short memories when it come to heavy rain, droughts, heat waves, etc. California having heavy rain causing mudslides, boulders crashing on to roadways or coastal roads collapsing is just part of living here. The media creates or attempts to create fear with its disaster porn, this was not the first time a tropical storm hit California and in 2020 we were under a tropical storm watch...don't let that stop the media feeding frenzy! And OMG! can you believe it? At the same time there is a tropical storm Ojai, which no one except the wealthy with homes, horse ranches or artistes would have a clue where it was...unless of course decades ago you watched the Bionic Woman Again OMG! a whopping 5.1 earthquake, that might be big in Kansas but California it's roll over and go back to sleep.

Rant off.

[the OlLine Rebel]

People in California(everywhere?) have such short memories when it come to heavy rain, droughts, heat waves, etc. California having heavy rain causing mudslides, boulders crashing on to roadways or coastal roads collapsing is just part of living here. The media creates or attempts to create fear with its disaster porn, this was not the first time a tropical storm hit California and in 2020 we were under a tropical storm watch...don't let that stop the media feeding frenzy! And OMG! can you believe it? At the same time there is a tropical storm Ojai, which no one except the wealthy with homes, horse ranches or artistes would have a clue where it was...unless of course decades ago you watched the Bionic Woman Again OMG! a whopping 5.1 earthquake, that might be big in Kansas but California it's roll over and go back to sleep.

Rant off.

I take it you’re from the L.A. region?

My brother and his offspring live there.  Have not heard from them yet but I have not wanted to bother them yet (just text) if they’re in chaos.

Indeed there have been landslides probably from rain but this was a hurricane type rotating storm, which is kind of unusual apparently.  My brother and his daughter certainly seemed concerned (though my brother does tend to be very paranoid) on Saturday.

[DB]

It seems to me the media is having a hard time coming up with devastation pictures to match their hype.

Oh, and I have no sympathy for the idiots with flooded cars on the road. Entirely their own stupid choice.

[GtHawk]

I take it you’re from the L.A. region?

My brother and his offspring live there.  Have not heard from them yet but I have not wanted to bother them yet (just text) if they’re in chaos.

Indeed there have been landslides probably from rain but this was a hurricane type rotating storm, which is kind of unusual apparently.  My brother and his daughter certainly seemed concerned (though my brother does tend to be very paranoid) on Saturday.

By no means do I wish to belittle what some Californians are going through, I am just tired of media disaster porn! I really have to wonder if this tropical storm never before seen in California, since what 1938 or 1939? dropped as much rain or caused as much damage as the storms earlier this year. So far, thank God I have not seen any deaths caused by Hilary in the US so only property damage. I hope the families and friends of all our members are OK, property for the most part can be replaced unlike lives.

[PeteS in CA]

By no means do I wish to belittle what some Californians are going through, I am just tired of media disaster porn! I really have to wonder if this tropical storm never before seen in California, since what 1938 or 1939? dropped as much rain or caused as much damage as the storms earlier this year. So far, thank God I have not seen any deaths caused by Hilary in the US so only property damage. I hope the families and friends of all our members are OK, property for the most part can be replaced unlike lives.

Your instinct is spot-on, @GtHawk. See the graphic here of similar storms since 1960: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/08/the-daily-chart-california-screamin.php .

[GtHawk]

Your instinct is spot-on, @GtHawk. See the graphic here of similar storms since 1960: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/08/the-daily-chart-california-screamin.php .

I think I said earlier in a thread that in the mid or a bit later 90's I lived in Fountain Valley, CA. some four or five miles from the beach and the streets were overflowed and in places impassible and my house was flooded, the same farther inland. But people have short memories, they forget about the 100+ deg weather we had in the 70's and earlier or the drought years followed by heavy rain years which is the history of California. Now some talking head on the TV and people with an agenda tell them this has never happened before and they just nod their heads and say thank you sir may I have another while blithely ignoring the fact that they had in fact lived the weather before.

[Smokin Joe]

I think I said earlier in a thread that in the mid or a bit later 90's I lived in Fountain Valley, CA. some four or five miles from the beach and the streets were overflowed and in places impassible and my house was flooded, the same farther inland. But people have short memories, they forget about the 100+ deg weather we had in the 70's and earlier or the drought years followed by heavy rain years which is the history of California. Now some talking head on the TV and people with an agenda tell them this has never happened before and they just nod their heads and say thank you sir may I have another while blithely ignoring the fact that they had in fact lived the weather before.

Sad to say, but there is a large voting contingent who were not even a twinkle in their daddy's eye when the '70s happened.