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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2023, 05:48:16 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on August 13, 2023, 05:41:55 pm
I don't think Trump even believes in any of that except to the extent it may benefit him in a given moment.

And I'm not so sure he's got much of a problem with fascism, either.  Just with someone other than him in charge.

Do you agree with this post to you @mountaineer
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2023, 06:04:24 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on August 12, 2023, 03:09:35 pm
I believe every single one of the criminal actions against Trump is utter BS. That doesn't make him a more attractive candidate.

Truth.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2023, 07:13:37 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 13, 2023, 01:58:04 pm
How about defending the rule of equal justice, free and fair elections, and joining with your fellow citizens building an impenetrable wall with their political voices against the fascist takeover of our government.  Do you find any of this attractive?
And what's his track record on those things? Especially after March 2020? :whistle:

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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2023, 07:38:50 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on August 13, 2023, 05:32:38 pm
Sure. Those actions have nothing to do with Mr. Trump, however.

Yup.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2023, 07:39:27 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on August 13, 2023, 07:13:37 pm
And what's his track record on those things? Especially after March 2020? :whistle:

Remember, if he wins, he can't run again. But if he loses, he can keep running forever.

He hasn’t done a damned thing to advance any of those goals.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2023, 07:55:29 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on August 13, 2023, 07:13:37 pm
And what's his track record on those things? Especially after March 2020? :whistle:

Remember, if he wins, he can't run again. But if he loses, he can keep running forever.

Nope, he can't run forever.  Death is inevitable for us all and he's aged quite a bit since he lost to Brandon.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2023, 08:01:02 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on August 13, 2023, 12:16:49 pm
Why not?  Each time they indict him, he gets a boost in the GOP primary polling.

Seriously, how does one guarantee that people prone to conspiracy theories will go for something?  Make a conspiracy theory out of it.  So-called MAGA is being suckered big time by the left, who have their number, and who also realize the the voters who will decide the general election - the so-called moderates, who will vote, but who aren't committed to a candidate right now, get more and more turned off every time Trump opens his big fat mouth.

I'm not so sure that I agree with your opinion or assumptions.  The election last time was decided because it was stolen.  Independents and moderates I doubt have made up their minds yet as it is too early in the election cycle and the debates haven't even begun.  Secondly, I don't think they are done indicting Trump.  I believe they'll find more bogus charges.

Just my opinion.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2023, 08:06:14 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on August 13, 2023, 07:13:37 pm
And what's his track record on those things? Especially after March 2020? :whistle:

Remember, if he wins, he can't run again. But if he loses, he can keep running forever.

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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2023, 08:52:36 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on August 13, 2023, 05:41:55 pm


And I'm not so sure he's got much of a problem with fascism, either.  Just with someone other than him being the head fascist in charge.

I wouldn't consider Trump a Fascist. But he does want to be the one to wield the power of an ever growing government
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2023, 09:48:35 pm »
Quote from: LMAO on August 13, 2023, 08:52:36 pm
I wouldn't consider Trump a Fascist. But he does want to be the one to wield the power of an ever growing government

Trump wants to return the government to its rightful owners, the American citizens.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2023, 10:07:54 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 13, 2023, 09:48:35 pm
Trump wants to return the government to its rightful owners, the American citizens.

He had four years to show that, yet government power grew greater under Trump than during any other four-year term in US history.

Covid lockdowns?  Jab mandates?  Weaponization of the Justice Department?  IRS censorship?  Criminalizing public assembly?  Skyrocketing debt?  All Trump.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2023, 10:23:18 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 13, 2023, 10:07:54 pm
He had four years to show that, yet government power grew greater under Trump than during any other four-year term in US history.

Covid lockdowns?  Jab mandates?  Weaponization of the Justice Department?  IRS censorship?  Criminalizing public assembly?  Skyrocketing debt?  All Trump.

Speaking of skyrocketing debt, the foundation for the inflation we see today was laid during Trump’s tenure. I don’t think policies that rob people of their savings is returning government to the citizens
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2023, 10:31:33 pm »
Quote from: LMAO on August 13, 2023, 10:23:18 pm
Speaking of skyrocketing debt, the foundation for the inflation we see today was laid during Trump’s tenure. I don’t think policies that rob people of their savings is returning government to the citizens

The lies sound good, but they are lies nonetheless.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2023, 10:58:58 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 13, 2023, 09:48:35 pm
Trump wants to return the government to its rightful owners, the American citizens.

 :bigsilly: :bigsilly: :bigsilly:

I had to dig out the bigsillies for that one...
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2023, 08:12:53 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 13, 2023, 10:31:33 pm
The lies sound good, but they are lies nonetheless.

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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2023, 08:47:42 am »
Quote from: LMAO on August 13, 2023, 08:52:36 pm
I wouldn't consider Trump a Fascist. But he does want to be the one to wield the power of an ever growing government

I wouldn't either.  The only "-ist" that applies to him is being a "Trumpist".  I don't think he cares much otherwise, which is why I think what matter to him is less the "-ist" than the fact that he's the one in charge.

So I wouldn't say he's a monarchist either...but he wouldn't turn it down if someone wanted to make him King.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2023, 08:50:57 am »
No, DJT is not an idealogue.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2023, 08:53:37 am »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on August 14, 2023, 08:47:42 am
I wouldn't either.  The only "-ist" that applies to him is being a "Trumpist".  I don't think he cares much otherwise, which is why I think what matter to him is less the "-ist" than the fact that he's the one in charge.

So I wouldn't say he's a monarchist either...but he wouldn't turn it down if someone wanted to make him King.

Trump is more closer to a Hoover Republican

Their tenures are similar in ways
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2023, 08:58:42 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 13, 2023, 10:07:54 pm
He had four years to show that, yet government power grew greater under Trump than during any other four-year term in US history.

Covid lockdowns?  Jab mandates?  Weaponization of the Justice Department?  IRS censorship?  Criminalizing public assembly?  Skyrocketing debt?  All Trump.
wait for the string of tweets whining that DeSantis refusing to take in NYC superspreaders was draconian and made him worse than Fauci.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2023, 11:36:39 am »
Quote from: libertybele on August 13, 2023, 07:55:29 pm
Nope, he can't run forever.  Death is inevitable for us all and he's aged quite a bit since he lost to Brandon.
Well, that's what I thought about Tom Brady, too, but he somehow lasted 10 years longer in his career than he should have.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2023, 09:30:27 am »
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See also: Records show how Dems are collecting DeSantis oppo, from Politico.

Gee, looks like the Dems really don't want RD to be the GOP nominee. But they're okay with Trump.  :pondering:
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2023, 10:55:34 am »
Quote from: deb on August 10, 2023, 08:51:01 am
Why is this concept so difficult to understand?!

Not difficult to understand.

They just keep insisting Don IS the guy that does that and that Ron is a RINO.  Goebels technique.  Nyah nyah nyah.  I can't hear you.  3 monkeys/hear/speak/see.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2023, 11:11:13 am »
This is why we have elections ... so the voters can prove the pundits are full of crap.
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Re: Why Ron DeSantis Is The Man To Lead The Great American Comeback
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2023, 12:33:23 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on August 17, 2023, 09:30:27 am
Gee, looks like the Dems really don't want RD to be the GOP nominee. But they're okay with Trump.  :pondering:

That right there should tell you everything you need to know.  And there are posters here on this forum who are 100% in bed with Democrats to see it happen.
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