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In Canada, It's Easier to Access Euthanasia Services Than Health Care

BY RICK MORAN
JULY 16, 2023

When Canada legalized euthanasia in 2016, a patient had to be terminally ill to access the Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID) program. But next year, the state plans to extend MAID to those suffering from mental illness — including those afflicted with PTSD.

Exactly what those who predicted a slippery slope to an ethical breakdown warned us about has now come to pass. Euthanasia proponents scoffed at the idea that the mentally ill would be given the opportunity to end their lives, but it’s come about much faster than anyone would have predicted.

Canadian military veteran Kelsi Sheren developed post-traumatic stress disorder from the Afghanistan war and now campaigns against the expansion of euthanasia.

“When you take people who were willing to put their lives on the line for you, for your safety, then you have the audacity to tell them it’s better if you just die … it is one of the most disgusting things,” says Sheren. “It’s unacceptable, and it is one of the most infuriating things to come down from the Canadian administration in the last decade.”

Sheren says that beating PTSD is hard but accessing the medical services to help in the process is even harder.

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Source:  https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2023/07/16/in-canada-its-easier-to-access-euthanasia-services-than-health-care-n1711038

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Re: In Canada, It's Easier to Access Euthanasia Services Than Health Care
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2023, 09:55:14 am »
UPDATE

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It's official. MAID caused more than 4% of all deaths in Canada in 2022—a total of 13,241 deaths. It's a stunning thirteenfold increase over just seven years. If MAID was listed as an official cause of death, it would be effectively the 5th leading cause of death in Canada.
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October 2, 2023, Issue
How Death Care Pushed Out Health Care
The ‘medical assistance in dying’ regime is not medicine
By Alexander Raikin
National Review

... The first rule of medicine is to do no harm. The second rule in countries that have legalized death care is that the first rule doesn’t matter anymore.

The introduction of death care — in each state of Australia; in Canada, Belgium, and the Netherlands; recently in Spain and soon in France; and in ten states and counting across the United States — was meant to provide another treatment option in end-of-life care, another tool for use by physicians and their patients. At the core of death care is the presumption that safeguards work and that consent, the most important safeguard, prevents death care from slipping into rampant homicide or suicide contagion. Instead, it is turning into the end of medicine.

In Belgium last year, after a lethal injection failed to kill a 36-year-old woman with terminal cancer, the presiding physician smothered her with a pillow. In New Zealand and Canada, suicidal patients seeking medical care for suicide prevention were prompted to consider assisted suicide instead.  ...

I have written previously about how a failed suicide attempt in Canada was completed through euthanasia, despite concerns of illegality by physicians involved with CAMAP, an organization that has held internal seminars on patients requesting euthanasia because of poverty, lack of medical care, homelessness, and credit-card debt.

Across jurisdictions that legalized death care, often what started as a choice is now the first or even the only option left. “We’re now no longer dealing with an exceptional treatment, but a treatment that is very frequent,” Michel Bureau told the Canadian Press news agency this summer. He speaks with authority as the head of the Commission sur les soins de fin de vie (commission on end-of-life care), the independent monitoring agency for MAID in Quebec. ...
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Re: In Canada, It's Easier to Access Euthanasia Services Than Health Care
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2023, 05:49:59 pm »
Fishrrman "we're almost there" prediction:

Within 10 years, Canadians will be offered low-cost or even free Sarco Pods upon request.

(if you don't know what a Sarco Pod is, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarco_pod)

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Re: In Canada, It's Easier to Access Euthanasia Services Than Health Care
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2023, 06:19:48 pm »
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Death is less expensive than keeping someone alive.

All roads lead to Soylent Green.

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Re: In Canada, It's Easier to Access Euthanasia Services Than Health Care
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2023, 01:09:49 am »
Hey, where can I purchase those Soylent Green Human Beans?   Been meaning to get me some of that fine food.  Heard it is tasty.

To my knowledge, we have been practicing Euthanasia in the USA for 28 years, for my father was Euthanized in 1995.  No one told us they were doing that to him.  I found out years later that was what was done.  The term our medical community uses is COMFORT MEASURES.  I have since had numerous other friends and relatives subjected to COMFORT MEASURES, but I knew they were doing it before they did it.

Hell, the cost of morphine is nothing compared to the cost of a hospital room for one day and the medical bullsh*t that comes with it.  Downright cheap to kill someone.

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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2023, 08:49:43 am »

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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2023, 09:59:14 am »
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Killing people is cheaper than keeping them alive.
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2024, 11:54:44 am »
An abortion-providing/suicide-assisting "doctor" in Canada cheerily explains the process:


https://twitter.com/Serena_Partrick/status/1842623436700450990
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2024, 04:12:02 pm »

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Re: In Canada, It's Easier to Access Euthanasia Services Than Health Care
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2024, 12:09:04 am »
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Killing people is cheaper than keeping them alive.
No sarcasm needed. It's true. What happens when the accountants decide who lives or dies.
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Re: In Canada, It's Easier to Access Euthanasia Services Than Health Care
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2024, 12:53:48 am »
mountaineer,

Listened to the interview of Dr. Ellen Wiebe, the video you posted.  The following are some quotes of hers while being interviewed by Liz, a woman by the look of her has undisclosed health issues.

"Over 400 deaths

#1 reason is autonomy and control for MAID
They desperately want control, to be able to say now

You have to be suffering unbearably and convince me you are suffering unbearably….ha.ha.ha

So Liz right now you love life and want to live, but
There’s lots of nasty illnesses you might get…ha.ha..ha

Wouldn’t you be thrilled, that if you had the choice, I would go this far, and no further

So glad I am Canadian

I love my job….but this is the very best work I’ve ever done in the last several years.  People ask me why?  And I think, well, doctors like grateful patients.  And nobody is more grateful than my patients now, and their families."

I understand the desire to help someone who is genuinely suffering in pain.  But I know for fact doctors are killing people who are not suffering.  My father received COMFORT MEASURES.  He was not consulted nor gave his authorization.  Neither was my mother or anyone else.  They just decided to pull the plug on my father.

When one considers everything, my primary thought is that they are trying to reduce humanity by any means possible, and as soon as possible.  FACT IS, 40% of those that go into hospice in the USA, which is care for those believed to be dying, end up emerging from hospice with a recovery, and returning home.  Should they have a reoccurrence of the malady/maladies that landed them in hospice, under the laws that came with Obamacare, these people are no longer eligible for healthcare.

Back to the interview, the comments that were made and subsequently followed by a Kamala cackle made my hair stand up.

Dr Wiebe reminds me of a doctor in a horror movie. 

Lastly, Soylent Green is actually happening.  The methodology of using nitrogen to euthanize humans, I believe it is referred to as Sarco is gaining popularity.  Just reminds me of the scene with Edward G. Robinson in Soylent Green, where he goes to be put to death, and is asked what he wants to see as he lay dying, and what color he prefers.

At the rate the world is going, if the election is fixed in 2024 as it was in 2020, Harris becoming POTUS, I can actually see a massive exchange of nuclear weapons on the horizon, and the end of mankind as we know it.

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Re: In Canada, It's Easier to Access Euthanasia Services Than Health Care
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2024, 08:28:06 am »
We should encourage leftards to euthanize themselves... it's not the worst idea I've ever heard.

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Re: In Canada, It's Easier to Access Euthanasia Services Than Health Care
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2024, 08:41:01 am »
I had many of the same reactions and thoughts, @jafo2010
The Dr seemed to delight in killing, whether pre-born babies or adults with painful conditions. We've already read that people with nothing more than hearing loss are being "euthanized" in Canada. There are no words.  **nononono*
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