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Offline Hoodat

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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #150 on: June 27, 2023, 09:43:05 pm »
   Isn't that the basis for the 'Stab you in the back' DeSantis theory?

I've been trying to get an answer to that for months now.
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #151 on: June 27, 2023, 09:54:26 pm »
Who knows what deals will be cut by the convention? Just a lot of speculative hoo-hah at this point.
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #152 on: June 27, 2023, 09:59:57 pm »
Who knows what deals will be cut by the convention? Just a lot of speculative hoo-hah at this point.



Heck, they could all kiss and make up by then.

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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #153 on: June 27, 2023, 10:07:22 pm »
Quote from: corbe link=topic=503235.msg2857439#msg2857439 date=16879019 2
 
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Isn't that the basis for the 'Stab you in the back' DeSantis theory?


NOW you are going to switch it to "the basis" because your charge is proven to be false?

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What do you think Desantis owes Trump or the bigger question I would ask Is Trump Entitled to it? 

DeSanctimonious  OWES Trump nothing. AFAIK,there was no "I scratch your back,you scratch my back" agreement between the two.

Of course,that changes nothing. It still makes him a whiny little backstabbing bitch.

Or at least it does those of us who have a personal sense of honor.

   
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #154 on: June 27, 2023, 10:10:04 pm »


Heck, they could all kiss and make up by then.
Exactly.

In the meantime, the kerfuffle will keep everyone else out of the news.
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #155 on: June 27, 2023, 10:23:54 pm »


   with that 'back stabbing' $hit @sneakypete
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #156 on: June 27, 2023, 10:25:15 pm »


   with that 'back stabbing' $hit @sneakypete

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I ain't the one doing it.
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #157 on: June 28, 2023, 03:08:46 am »
   I really don't think that even @Right_in_Virginia can come up with the link to justify your view that DeSantis ever promised Trump that he wouldn't run against him  @sneakypete

   *And she's very Resourceful

In defense of @sneakypete , I'd say his argument is that the loyalty obligation DeSantis had to Trump is inherent in Trump supporting him in 2018, and doesn't need to be explicitly stated to exist.  I personally don't agree with that argument, but I think that's his point.  Therefore, you don't need a link or direct quote.

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« Reply #158 on: June 28, 2023, 04:24:02 am »
In defense of @sneakypete , I'd say his argument is that the loyalty obligation DeSantis had to Trump is inherent in Trump supporting him in 2018, and doesn't need to be explicitly stated to exist.  I personally don't agree with that argument, but I think that's his point.  Therefore, you don't need a link or direct quote.

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That IS my point.

Thank you very much for expressing it better than I was able to express it.
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #159 on: June 28, 2023, 05:52:40 am »
In defense of @sneakypete , I'd say his argument is that the loyalty obligation DeSantis had to Trump is inherent in Trump supporting him in 2018, and doesn't need to be explicitly stated to exist.  I personally don't agree with that argument, but I think that's his point.  Therefore, you don't need a link or direct quote.

It goes deeper than this.  Trump's career saving support for RDS in both the 2018 primary and again in the general elections is only where it begins.

Beyond his using Trump to save his career, RDS was vocal and effusive in his praise of Donald Trump  --- from the economy (not trade), to judges, to appointments, immigration, the military, Israel, his support and push for freedom in our hemisphere, his handling of COVID and assistance for Florida ---- RDS couldn't stop praising President Trump. 

In speeches, interviews, tweets, going back to his impassioned soliloquy on the debate stage defending Trump against attacks from every corner of the political sphere the likes of which no President has endured, ending with the promise "I am not going to pile on" ----- RDS presented himself as a loyal supporter of the President. 

Everything changed when DeSantis crossed the term limits Rubicon in Florida and jettisoned the President.  In so doing, RDS proved himself to be a lying fraud and backstabbing little bitch ----- not only toward the President, but toward his supporters, as well.   

On the plus side, RDS has become the author of one of the most stunning and ultimately fatal self-inflicted political wounds in American history.

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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #160 on: June 28, 2023, 09:06:27 am »
Claims of a “Stab in the back” are so redolent of the failed socialist ideologies of the past.

I wonder if past is prologue in this case?

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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #161 on: June 28, 2023, 04:26:57 pm »
Everything changed when DeSantis crossed the term limits Rubicon in Florida and jettisoned the President.

Uh, no.  Trump and his "lying little bitch" sycophants turned against DeSantis long before your Rubicon was crossed.  That's when everything changed.
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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #162 on: June 28, 2023, 04:34:56 pm »
And all this time I thought the primary was about selecting the best person to run for office and not who owes who...


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« Reply #163 on: June 28, 2023, 05:08:40 pm »
And all this time I thought the primary was about selecting the best person to run for office and not who owes who...

Everything with that guy is personal.  The boss who likes whoever sucks up the most rather than whoever is best at the job.

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Re: There Are Some Serious Problems With These Polls Right Now
« Reply #164 on: June 28, 2023, 05:10:21 pm »
Uh, no.  Trump and his "lying little bitch" sycophants turned against DeSantis long before your Rubicon was crossed.  That's when everything changed.

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