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« Reply #4900 on: September 22, 2024, 05:24:54 pm »
Russia Fails Nuclear Missile Test, Satellite Images Reveal

Ivan Khomenko  |  Sep 22, 2024  |  12:01


The RS-28 “Sarmat” is a Russian fifth-generation strategic missile system, silo-based. (Source: MT Anderson)

On September 20, Russia attempted another test of its RS-28 Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile at the Plesetsk Cosmodrome, which reportedly ended in failure. The missile, touted by Russia as a key component of its strategic deterrent, exploded in its launch silo, leaving a massive crater and causing significant damage to the test site, according to OSINT analyst MeNMyRC. This marks the fourth unsuccessful test of the Sarmat missile, which Russia previously claimed had been placed on combat alert.

Satellite imagery from Planet Labs, shared by MeNMyRC, indicates that the explosion likely occurred during the fueling process. The RS-28 is a liquid-fueled missile, which could explain why the failure occurred before launch. The absence of activity from the NATO reconnaissance unit “Cobra Ball” on the day of the test supports the theory that the explosion happened prior to any launch sequence.

The missile’s failure, captured on satellite imagery, is the latest in a series of setbacks for Russia’s strategic missile program. The first and only successful test of the RS-28 Sarmat took place in April 2022. Since then, Russia has encountered repeated difficulties, with four unsuccessful tests to date.  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russia-fails-nuclear-missile-test-satellite-images-reveal-2505
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« Reply #4901 on: September 22, 2024, 05:25:10 pm »
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« Reply #4902 on: September 23, 2024, 12:01:19 am »
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« Reply #4903 on: September 23, 2024, 12:01:57 am »
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« Reply #4904 on: September 23, 2024, 12:03:05 am »
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« Reply #4905 on: September 23, 2024, 12:04:37 am »
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« Reply #4906 on: September 23, 2024, 12:06:08 am »
Russia continues its war on Ukrainian civilians:



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« Reply #4907 on: September 23, 2024, 12:09:26 am »
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« Reply #4908 on: September 23, 2024, 12:11:47 am »
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« Reply #4909 on: September 23, 2024, 12:14:42 am »
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« Reply #4910 on: September 23, 2024, 12:15:06 am »
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« Reply #4911 on: September 23, 2024, 12:17:47 am »
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« Reply #4912 on: September 23, 2024, 12:21:53 am »
Iskander ballistic missiles with cluster warheads used to target Ukrainian civilians.  This is a war crime.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1fn44ta/the_debris_of_an_iskanderm_9m7231_ballistic/
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« Reply #4913 on: September 23, 2024, 12:26:13 am »
Russian aircraft carrier crew sent to frontline in Ukraine

George Allison  -  September 21, 2024

In a surprising development, Russia has seemingly formed a mechanised battalion from the crew of its only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov.

Initially stationed in the Kharkiv region, the battalion has since been redeployed to the Pokrovsk sector, according to the Ukrainian military. The formation of the battalion came to light after a message was shared on Russian social media platform Vkontakte, requesting help in locating personnel from military unit 78987.

This unit recently gained attention following the disappearance of Oleg Sosedov, a sailor from the Admiral Kuznetsov, who went missing during a Russian operation in the Kharkiv region in July. Sosedov, also linked to the battalion, was last seen during an assault on the frontier village of Sotnytskii Kozachok.

Additionally, reports indicate that Russia is also forming infantry units from members of its Aerospace Forces, with these new units playing a role in battles around Kursk.

The Admiral Kuznetsov has faced numerous setbacks since being withdrawn from service for repairs in 2017. Originally planned for modernisation to extend its service life by 25 years, the ship’s overhaul has been continuously delayed by accidents and technical challenges.

One incident occurred in October 2018 when the PD-50 drydock, housing the carrier, sank, damaging the vessel and killing a worker. A crane collapse caused significant damage to the flight deck, further delaying the repair process. The carrier was later moved to the 35th Ship Repair Plant in Murmansk. The difficulties continued. In December 2019, a major fire broke out onboard, killing two workers and injuring more than a dozen others, adding to the delays. Initially expected to return to service by 2023, the completion of repairs has been repeatedly postponed, with current estimates suggesting the ship may not be handed over to the Russian Navy until 2024 or 2025.  .  .

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/russian-aircraft-carrier-crew-sent-to-frontline-in-ukraine/
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« Reply #4914 on: September 23, 2024, 12:28:40 am »
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« Reply #4915 on: September 23, 2024, 10:18:19 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on September 23, 2024, 12:03:05 am

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1837886141002870786

Flakturm Kerch

Maybe I'm missing something, but besides all the steel and manpower expended:

* Isn't that structure a huge target that when hit could topple that nice SAM system into the sea?

* Who gets the "fun" of reloading that SAM system after it fires off missiles? At the least it seems like the several 10s of feet of gained altitude will multiply the effort needed to reload.
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« Reply #4916 on: September 23, 2024, 10:27:28 am »
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Russian aircraft carrier crew sent to frontline in Ukraine
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The Admiral Kuznetsov has faced numerous setbacks since being withdrawn from service for repairs in 2017. Originally planned for modernisation to extend its service life by 25 years, the ship’s overhaul has been continuously delayed by accidents and technical challenges.

One incident occurred in October 2018 when the PD-50 drydock, housing the carrier, sank, damaging the vessel and killing a worker. A crane collapse caused significant damage to the flight deck, further delaying the repair process. The carrier was later moved to the 35th Ship Repair Plant in Murmansk. The difficulties continued. In December 2019, a major fire broke out onboard, killing two workers and injuring more than a dozen others, adding to the delays. Initially expected to return to service by 2023, the completion of repairs has been repeatedly postponed, with current estimates suggesting the ship may not be handed over to the Russian Navy until 2024 or 2025.  .  .

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/russian-aircraft-carrier-crew-sent-to-frontline-in-ukraine/

The Kuznetsov has suffered the drydock collapse and two major fires since 2018. It's undergoing a near-rebuild (with finest Russian quality, no doubt). This transfer of skilled personnel suggests that Putin & minions do not anticipate the Kuznetsov becoming a useable fleet element any year soon (it's in Murmansk, so the ship is basically irrelevant and not useful to the Ukraine invasion).
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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« Reply #4917 on: September 23, 2024, 02:39:46 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4918 on: September 23, 2024, 02:42:54 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on September 23, 2024, 10:27:28 am
The Kuznetsov has suffered the drydock collapse and two major fires since 2018. It's undergoing a near-rebuild (with finest Russian quality, no doubt). This transfer of skilled personnel suggests that Putin & minions do not anticipate the Kuznetsov becoming a useable fleet element any year soon (it's in Murmansk, so the ship is basically irrelevant and not useful to the Ukraine invasion).

Ukraine would score a nice bonus if they were to sink this rust bucket before it sinks of its own accord.
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« Reply #4919 on: September 23, 2024, 03:06:40 pm »
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Ukraine would score a nice bonus if they were to sink this rust bucket before it sinks of its own accord.

Murmansk is probably very far beyond the range of anything Ukraine has.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4920 on: September 23, 2024, 03:24:48 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on September 23, 2024, 02:39:46 pm
Zelenskyy is in Pennsylvania, campaigning for Kamala Harris and bashing Trump:

Yeah, that's pretty stupid of him and completely misreading the room.  Ukraine will pay for that next year.
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« Reply #4921 on: September 23, 2024, 05:40:13 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on September 23, 2024, 12:01:19 am
DAY 48 - UKRAINE'S INVASION OF RUSSIA

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https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1fn7f1j/russians_got_triggered_that_lithuanians_hung_the/

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4922 on: September 23, 2024, 05:53:38 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on September 23, 2024, 02:39:46 pm

Zelenskyy is in Pennsylvania, campaigning for Kamala Harris and bashing Trump:
This is because Trump will end the open pipeline between the U.S. Treasury Department and Zelensky's bank account.

Furthermore, Trump is demanding a detailed audit of all the money given to Ukraine so far. <-- That scares the hell out of both Democrats and Zelensky since the whole thing is mostly (not entirely) a corrupt money laundering scheme.
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« Reply #4923 on: September 23, 2024, 09:56:07 pm »
DAY 49 - UKRAINE'S INVASION OF RUSSIA


Small Norwegian fishing boat confronted Russian warship during live-shooting exercise

Thomas Nilsen  |  September 23, 2024

“This is Russian warship, you need to leave the area”, was the message chief mate Øystein Orten got over the radio as his crew was about to take the fishing gear up from the water.

It was news online FriFagbevegelse that first talked with the crew of the fishing boat Ragnhild Kristine about the scary confrontation with the Russian navy in the Barents Sea.

The incident happened on September 12th in the maritime border areas north of the Varanger Peninsula. Outside territorial waters, but in Norwegian Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). Here, Russia’s Northern Fleet had pre-annonced live shootings as part of the large-scale strategic exercise Ocean-2024.

But the military exercise and the order to sail away didn’t at first scare the Norwegians.

“I replied that it was out of question for us to move. We had longlines to take onboard,” Orten told to FriFagbevegelse.

The Admiral Levchenko is an anti-submarine destroyer and one of the largest warships in the Northern Fleet.  .  .  .

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2024/09/russian-warship-fired-warning-shot-norwegian-fishing-boat
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« Reply #4924 on: September 23, 2024, 09:58:44 pm »
'Before' and 'After' photos of the ammunition storage depot in Oktyabrski:





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« Reply #4925 on: September 23, 2024, 10:04:26 pm »
Russia Breaches Japanese Airspace 3 Times in a Day, Japan Fires Warning Flares for the First Time

Olga Gordiienko  |  Sep 23, 2024  |  16:59


Russian military aircraft violating Japanese airspace near Rebun Island in Hokkaido, Northern Japan. September 23, 2024.
(Source: the Japanese Defense Ministry’s Joint Staff Office)

On September 23, Russian military patrol planes violated Japanese airspace three times over Rebun Island, located North of Hokkaido.

This information was confirmed by Japan’s Chief Secretary of the Government, as reported by The Yomiuri Shimbun.

In response, the Japanese Air Force deployed fighter jets and issued warnings to the Russian aircraft by launching flares.

Notably, this marks the first occasion on which Japan has utilized flares as a warning against an airspace violation, according to the publication.

Additionally, Tokyo has formally issued an “extremely strict protest” to Moscow regarding the incident, as reported by Kyodo News.  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russia-breaches-japanese-airspace-3-times-in-a-day-japan-fires-warning-flares-for-the-first-time-2535
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« Reply #4926 on: September 23, 2024, 10:12:07 pm »
Stupid  Stupid  Stupid


Zelensky: Trump doesn’t know how to end war and Vance is too radical

The president of Ukraine criticises the Republican nominees as he visits the US to share his plan for victory over Russia

James Kilner  |  23 September 2024  |  1:45pm

Donald Trump doesn’t know how to stop the war in Ukraine, despite claiming he could end it on his first day as US president, Volodymyr Zelensky has said.

In his harshest criticism yet of the Republican presidential nominee, the Ukrainian president also described Trump’s running mate JD Vance as “dangerous” and “too radical”.

“His message seems to be that Ukraine must make a sacrifice,” Mr Zelensky said of Mr Vance in an interview with the New Yorker magazine before he flew to the US to present his “Victory Plan” to the White House this week. “But I believe that we have shielded America from total war.”

Mr Vance has been criticised by supporters of Ukraine for pushing a peace deal that consolidates the Kremlin’s control over captured territory.

Mr Zelensky said such a deal would disrespect the sacrifices that Ukrainian soldiers have made  .  .  .

.  .  .  “Whichever president or vice-president raises this prospect, that ending the war hinges on cementing the status quo, with Ukraine simply giving up its land, should be held responsible for potentially starting a global war,” he said.

Mr Zelensky added that he had held more “positive” conversations with Mr Trump who he said had promised to continue to support Ukraine’s military.

Ukrainian officials have said they are concerned Trump would turn off the supply of weapons Joe Biden has approved for Ukraine, in an attempt to force Mr Zelensky to negotiate with Putin.

But the Ukrainian president insisted Putin could not be trusted and Trump, despite his public stance, would not be able to strike a quick deal to end the war.  .  .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/09/23/zelensky-trump-doesnt-know-how-to-end-war-and-vance-radical/


Zelenskiy is making a huge mistake commenting on American politics on US soil.  While his comments about Trump may be accurate, the words were better left unspoken.  Especially on Joe Biden's home turf.
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« Reply #4927 on: September 23, 2024, 10:14:46 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4928 on: September 23, 2024, 10:22:28 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4929 on: September 24, 2024, 09:38:18 am »
Smoke is clearing over the sites Ukraine hit and what was destroyed and damaged is coming more apparent. This video is nearly 24 minutes long and analyzes what can be seen at the three strike sites:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDIqV4jk3i4

The parts about the trains and the ammunition refurbishing area are interesting, to me at least.
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« Reply #4930 on: September 24, 2024, 10:00:01 am »
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Yep.

As everybody knows, I'm generally sympathetic about Zelensky, and admire his courage in not taking the ride but asking for the ammo when Russia attacked Ukraine in February 2022.  However, I think he made a terrible political and strategic mistake yesterday in allowing himself to be used by the Democrats at the Scranton ammunition factory as a campaign prop for themselves and to bludgeon Trump and Vance. 

Not sure why he did that, or if it was a condition of his last batch of military aid, or for securing Biden's permission to hit Russia deep with American weapons, but I think he just doomed himself and Ukraine, since Trump and Vance have long memories. 

And they will remember what he did and said yesterday on behalf of Harris and Biden.  And Ukraine will receive no more American help after Inauguration Day.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4931 on: September 24, 2024, 03:46:00 pm »
There is a limit to how much a foreign leaded can prostitute themselves to get help, and Zelenesky has crossed a line.
Funny how the people who raised so much rancor over foreign interference in elections welcome this.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4932 on: September 24, 2024, 04:42:08 pm »
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Russia Breaches Japanese Airspace 3 Times in a Day, Japan Fires Warning Flares for the First Time

Olga Gordiienko  |  Sep 23, 2024  |  16:59


Russian military aircraft violating Japanese airspace near Rebun Island in Hokkaido, Northern Japan. September 23, 2024.
(Source: the Japanese Defense Ministry’s Joint Staff Office)

On September 23, Russian military patrol planes violated Japanese airspace three times over Rebun Island, located North of Hokkaido.

This information was confirmed by Japan’s Chief Secretary of the Government, as reported by The Yomiuri Shimbun.

In response, the Japanese Air Force deployed fighter jets and issued warnings to the Russian aircraft by launching flares.

Notably, this marks the first occasion on which Japan has utilized flares as a warning against an airspace violation, according to the publication.

Additionally, Tokyo has formally issued an “extremely strict protest” to Moscow regarding the incident, as reported by Kyodo News.  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russia-breaches-japanese-airspace-3-times-in-a-day-japan-fires-warning-flares-for-the-first-time-2535

If I were Japanese I'd want the invading Soviets forced down or shot down. This wasn't a mere crossing into an ADIZ but an actual 3x intrusion...a deliberate series of hostile acts.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4933 on: September 24, 2024, 04:48:17 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on September 23, 2024, 10:12:07 pm


Zelenskiy is making a huge mistake commenting on American politics on US soil.  While his comments about Trump may be accurate, the words were better left unspoken.  Especially on Joe Biden's home turf.

I've been slammed several times on this thread for my Anti-Zellinsssskkyyyy sentiments.  While still giving my support to Uke soldier fight dirty ruskies in the trenches.

This is foreign election interference.

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« Reply #4934 on: September 24, 2024, 05:17:23 pm »
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There is a limit to how much a foreign leaded can prostitute themselves to get help, and Zelenesky has crossed a line.
Funny how the people who raised so much rancor over foreign interference in elections welcome this.



I sadly, must agree. I've been a huge Zelenksy supporter, but he absolutely crossed a line. I won't end my support for Ukraine in this confrontation...but it makes me look askance at him.
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« Reply #4935 on: September 24, 2024, 06:06:16 pm »
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I sadly, must agree. I've been a huge Zelenksy supporter, but he absolutely crossed a line. I won't end my support for Ukraine in this confrontation...but it makes me look askance at him.

Ditto that. Zelensky screwed up big time here.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4936 on: September 24, 2024, 06:52:42 pm »
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Putin Ally Warns Russia's Nuclear Weapons in 'Full Combat Readiness'

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, warned on Friday that Moscow's nuclear weapons are in "full combat readiness."

Amid the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war, tensions between North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) countries and the Kremlin have continued as NATO leaders have increasingly warned that direct conflict with Moscow is a realistic danger as it has more nuclear warheads than any other country, according to the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (ICANW). This comes after Putin and senior Russian officials have repeatedly threatened nuclear escalation against Kyiv and its Western partners since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

According to Tass, a Russian state news agency, Lavrov said in an interview with Sky News Arabia that while "nobody wants a nuclear war," he warned the country's nuclear weapons are in "full combat readiness."

"We talk about red lines, expecting that our assessments, statements will be heard by intelligent, decision-making people. It is not serious to say that if tomorrow you do not do what I demand of you, we will press the 'red button,'" the Russian foreign minister said. "I am convinced that in such situations, decision makers have an idea of what we are talking about. Nobody wants a nuclear war."

He added that Russia possesses weapons "that will have serious implications for the handlers of the Ukrainian regime."

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« Reply #4937 on: September 24, 2024, 06:55:10 pm »
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Zelensky: Trump doesn’t know how to end war and Vance is too radical

The president of Ukraine criticises the Republican nominees as he visits the US to share his plan for victory over Russia

James Kilner  |  23 September 2024  |  1:45pm

Donald Trump doesn’t know how to stop the war in Ukraine, despite claiming he could end it on his first day as US president, Volodymyr Zelensky has said.

In his harshest criticism yet of the Republican presidential nominee, the Ukrainian president also described Trump’s running mate JD Vance as “dangerous” and “too radical”.

“His message seems to be that Ukraine must make a sacrifice,” Mr Zelensky said of Mr Vance in an interview with the New Yorker magazine before he flew to the US to present his “Victory Plan” to the White House this week. “But I believe that we have shielded America from total war.”

Mr Vance has been criticised by supporters of Ukraine for pushing a peace deal that consolidates the Kremlin’s control over captured territory.

Mr Zelensky said such a deal would disrespect the sacrifices that Ukrainian soldiers have made  .  .  .

.  .  .  “Whichever president or vice-president raises this prospect, that ending the war hinges on cementing the status quo, with Ukraine simply giving up its land, should be held responsible for potentially starting a global war,” he said.

Mr Zelensky added that he had held more “positive” conversations with Mr Trump who he said had promised to continue to support Ukraine’s military.

Ukrainian officials have said they are concerned Trump would turn off the supply of weapons Joe Biden has approved for Ukraine, in an attempt to force Mr Zelensky to negotiate with Putin.

But the Ukrainian president insisted Putin could not be trusted and Trump, despite his public stance, would not be able to strike a quick deal to end the war.  .  .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/09/23/zelensky-trump-doesnt-know-how-to-end-war-and-vance-radical/


Zelenskiy is making a huge mistake commenting on American politics on US soil.  While his comments about Trump may be accurate, the words were better left unspoken.  Especially on Joe Biden's home turf.

Aside from twisting overly sensitive noses, what did he say that is incorrect?
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4938 on: September 24, 2024, 08:01:20 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on September 24, 2024, 06:55:10 pm
Aside from twisting overly sensitive noses, what did he say that is incorrect?
I'm not saying it was necessarily incorrect, just better not said in front of a media who is hostile to Trump in the months leading up to a US election.

Need I point out Biden is not in the running?

Does Kamala, with all her military prowess and ability as a negotiator on matters of the Border wreaking havoc across the country, have an effing clue how to end the conflict over there? Could she even pick out Ukraine on the map?

I think Trump is likely reasonable enough that Zelenesky could make his case, but Kamala? Sheesh! Instead Zelenesky stepped in it, bigtime, imho.

It's a screw up. If Kamala gets in he's f**ked, If Trump does, he has a chance, and he's rooting for the wrong team.
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« Reply #4939 on: September 24, 2024, 08:57:00 pm »
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« Reply #4940 on: September 24, 2024, 08:57:19 pm »

The Kremlin Pulled Sailors Off The Decrepit Aircraft Carrier ‘Admiral Kuznetsov’ And Sent Them To Fight, And Die, In Ukraine

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Admiral Kuznetsov, the Russian navy’s only aircraft carrier, hasn’t deployed in eight years—and it’s increasingly unlikely it will ever deploy again. That helps explain why, in recent months, the Kremlin reportedly reassigned the aging ship’s sailors to the army—and sent them into battle in Ukraine.

It’s a startling revelation that underscores the Russian army’s manpower crisis as Russia’s wider war on Ukraine grinds toward its 31st month—and also underlines the decrepit state of the Russian navy’s biggest warships, most of which are Cold War leftovers.

Open-source analyst Moklasen first reported the reassignment of some of the 58,000-ton Kuznetsov’s approximately 1,500-person crew. The sailors formed a so-called “frigate” mechanized battalion within the 1st Guards Tank Army, Moklasen concluded after scouring Russian social media for clues.

The frigate battalion fought around Kharkiv in northern Ukraine before shifting to the Pokrovsk axis in the east. Moklasen surmised that at least one former carrier crewman, Oleg Sosedov, went missing during a Russian attack in Kharkiv on July 23.

That the Russians are apparently pulling people from Kuznetsov isn’t surprising. The Kremlin is taking extreme measures to mobilize the 30,000 fresh troops it needs every month just to replace battlefield losses—killed, wounded and captured—in Ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4941 on: September 24, 2024, 09:35:03 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on September 24, 2024, 06:55:10 pm
Aside from twisting overly sensitive noses, what did he say that is incorrect?

I think Trump could end the war by driving down the price of oil and taking away the ability of Russia and Iran to fund their wars.  Zelenskiy is going to find out that Trump could be a much better friend than Biden or Harris ever were.
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« Reply #4942 on: September 24, 2024, 10:10:09 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 24, 2024, 08:01:20 pm
I'm not saying it was necessarily incorrect, just better not said in front of a media who is hostile to Trump in the months leading up to a US election.

Need I point out Biden is not in the running?

Does Kamala, with all her military prowess and ability as a negotiator on matters of the Border wreaking havoc across the country, have an effing clue how to end the conflict over there? Could she even pick out Ukraine on the map?

I think Trump is likely reasonable enough that Zelenesky could make his case, but Kamala? Sheesh! Instead Zelenesky stepped in it, bigtime, imho.

It's a screw up. If Kamala gets in he's f**ked, If Trump does, he has a chance, and he's rooting for the wrong team.

Or maybe he's listened to what Trump has said about the situation.

Ukraine if fighting for its survival. Trump has made it pretty clear Ukraine should just let Putin have what he takes and call it "peace". And why would anyone serious listen to Trump's claim he'll end the war in a day?
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« Reply #4943 on: September 24, 2024, 11:15:42 pm »
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Zelensky: Trump doesn’t know how to end war and Vance is too radical...

Stupid indeed.

Zelensky should have been more careful in what he said, or not criticize Trump and Vance the way he did at all. He should talk up stopping Russia while in the US and leave the criticism of Trump and the election out of it.

Other leaders can make gaffes and get away with it. Zelensky cannot afford mistakes like this.
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« Reply #4944 on: September 24, 2024, 11:54:01 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on September 24, 2024, 06:55:10 pm
Aside from twisting overly sensitive noses, what did he say that is incorrect?

True or not, the point is he is conducting election interfrerrence, for obvious reasons ($$$).  Are you okay with that?
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« Reply #4945 on: September 25, 2024, 12:49:44 am »
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« Reply #4946 on: September 25, 2024, 12:51:23 am »
Russia's top propagandist on state TV calls for Putin's resignation.



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« Reply #4947 on: September 25, 2024, 12:53:19 am »
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« Reply #4948 on: September 25, 2024, 12:57:47 am »
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« Reply #4949 on: September 25, 2024, 12:58:52 am »
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