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« Reply #4750 on: September 14, 2024, 01:27:51 am »
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« Reply #4751 on: September 14, 2024, 01:28:40 am »
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« Reply #4752 on: September 14, 2024, 01:32:32 am »
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« Reply #4753 on: September 14, 2024, 01:34:09 am »
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« Reply #4754 on: September 14, 2024, 01:36:31 am »
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« Reply #4755 on: September 14, 2024, 01:41:19 am »
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« Reply #4756 on: September 14, 2024, 01:44:15 am »
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« Reply #4757 on: September 14, 2024, 01:45:39 am »
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« Reply #4758 on: September 14, 2024, 01:49:19 am »
Told ya.


No change to US policy on long-range missiles to Ukraine expected Friday, White House says

Doina Chiacu    September 13, 2024  |  3:26 PM EDT

WASHINGTON, Sept 13 (Reuters) - The United States is not planning to announce any new policy on Ukraine and the use of long-range missiles on Friday, the White House said.

"There is no change to our view on the provision of long range strike capabilities for Ukraine to use inside of Russia," White House national security spokesman John Kirby told reporters. "I would not expect any major announcement in that regard," from discussions between U.S. President Joe Biden and British Prime Minister Keir Starmer on Friday, Kirby said.  .  .

https://www.reuters.com/world/no-change-us-policy-long-range-missiles-ukraine-expected-friday-white-house-says-2024-09-13/
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« Reply #4759 on: September 14, 2024, 01:51:47 am »
Russia faces budget crisis as oil prices hit new low

Robert Kędzierski  •  18h

Russian crude oil has become cheaper, dropping to £48 per barrel, reaching its lowest level since the beginning of the year. This is "definitely uncomfortable for the federal budget," reports "The Moscow Times." The Russian Ministry of Finance had forecasted higher revenues from selling raw materials in its budget draft.

A few days ago, we reported that oil prices on global markets fell below the key level of £56. It turns out that the relatively low cost of the resource is hitting Russia. As "The Moscow Times" explains, the price of Russian crude oil has fallen below the level that ensures the stability of the state budget.

This situation could have serious consequences for the Russian economy, which heavily relies on revenues from the export of energy raw materials. The decline in oil prices on global markets in September led to a drop in the prices of Russian crude oil, negatively impacting oil companies' revenues.
According to Bloomberg data, at the beginning of the week, the price of Russian oil in Baltic ports dropped below £48 per barrel, reaching its lowest level since the beginning of the year. In Primorsk and Ust-Luga on 10 September, Urals oil was sold again per barrel for £46 and £46, respectively.  .  .

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/russia-faces-budget-crisis-as-oil-prices-hit-new-low/ar-AA1qwJBu

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4760 on: September 14, 2024, 05:55:10 pm »
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« Reply #4761 on: September 14, 2024, 06:15:33 pm »
Napoleon apparently boasted that he spent 30,000 men a month.

The Imperial Japanese Navy had the best naval aviators in the world at the beginning of 1942. In June 1944 her fliers were 3/4 trained and got slaughtered at the Marianas. Four months later, half-trained naval and army aviators got slaughtered over Formosa. Japan "spent" its experienced aviators instead of using them to boost its inadequate pilot/crew training programs.

Putin is spending men.
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I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4762 on: September 14, 2024, 08:13:40 pm »
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Napoleon apparently boasted that he spent 30,000 men a month.

The Imperial Japanese Navy had the best naval aviators in the world at the beginning of 1942. In June 1944 her fliers were 3/4 trained and got slaughtered at the Marianas. Four months later, half-trained naval and army aviators got slaughtered over Formosa. Japan "spent" its experienced aviators instead of using them to boost its inadequate pilot/crew training programs.

Putin is spending men.
Japan 'spent' it's best trained pilots on Kamikaze suicide missions. By the end of the war, 14 year old pilots were not uncommon.
Japan had a suicidal "honor" national mindset. It was a great honor to the pilots and their families to die in battle.
This is the origin of the famous Patton quote, 'No bastard ever won a war by dying for their country.'
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« Reply #4763 on: September 14, 2024, 08:42:02 pm »
During WWII the Germans had artillery which would scream while incoming. Initially the sound was unintentional. But, when the Germans realized the psychological effect it had on enemy troops, they intentionally included and enhanced the whistle sound in artilleries to disrupt the targeted troops.

This was known as a 'screaming mimi'. It became a cliché in movies to hear the draining whistle sound of incoming rounds. Eventually, just the sound of the screaming mimi would send troops into panic and hysteria.

Aborigines had war drums. In Scotland the bagpipes were used for a similar effect. In Vietnam, loud hard metal music was used.

From some reports I read about the Russian troops attacking Ukraine, a similar thing is happening today. Only this time it is the light buzzing sound of a drone. Like WWII, when Russians hear that sound they break formations, lose control, and run like hell in a panic.

The ingrained Pavlovian response cannot be simply 'turned off'. When the Russians hear that buzz overhead they freak-out and lose all control.
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You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4764 on: September 14, 2024, 09:06:46 pm »
Quote from: 240B on September 14, 2024, 08:42:02 pm
During WWII the Germans had artillery which would scream while incoming. Initially the sound was unintentional. But, when the Germans realized the psychological effect it had on enemy troops, they intentionally included and enhanced the whistle sound in artilleries to disrupt the targeted troops.

This was known as a 'screaming mimi'. It became a cliché in movies to hear the draining whistle sound of incoming rounds. Eventually, just the sound of the screaming mimi would send troops into panic and hysteria.

Aborigines had war drums. In Scotland the bagpipes were used for a similar effect. In Vietnam, loud hard metal music was used.

From some reports I read about the Russian troops attacking Ukraine, a similar thing is happening today. Only this time it is the light buzzing sound of a drone. Like WWII, when Russians hear that sound they break formations, lose control, and run like hell in a panic.

The ingrained Pavlovian response cannot be simply 'turned off'. When the Russians hear that buzz overhead they freak-out and lose all control.

The Germans did the same with the Stuka dive bomber.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4765 on: September 14, 2024, 11:26:02 pm »
Quote from: 240B on September 14, 2024, 08:42:02 pm
During WWII the Germans had artillery which would scream while incoming. Initially the sound was unintentional. But, when the Germans realized the psychological effect it had on enemy troops, they intentionally included and enhanced the whistle sound in artilleries to disrupt the targeted troops.

This was known as a 'screaming mimi'. It became a cliché in movies to hear the draining whistle sound of incoming rounds. Eventually, just the sound of the screaming mimi would send troops into panic and hysteria.

Aborigines had war drums. In Scotland the bagpipes were used for a similar effect. In Vietnam, loud hard metal music was used.

From some reports I read about the Russian troops attacking Ukraine, a similar thing is happening today. Only this time it is the light buzzing sound of a drone. Like WWII, when Russians hear that sound they break formations, lose control, and run like hell in a panic.

The ingrained Pavlovian response cannot be simply 'turned off'. When the Russians hear that buzz overhead they freak-out and lose all control.
Ju-87 dive bombers "Stukas" had sirens mounted on them to increase the terror factor as well. While dated by the end of the war, they were instrumental in the early Blitzkrieg phases, and later on the Eastern Front as well, having the effect of artillery where needed, and later, as 'tank busters' outfitted with 37mm cannon under the wings. 
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« Reply #4766 on: September 14, 2024, 11:27:50 pm »
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« Reply #4767 on: September 14, 2024, 11:39:58 pm »
Quote from: 240B on September 14, 2024, 08:42:02 pm
During WWII the Germans had artillery which would scream while incoming. Initially the sound was unintentional. But, when the Germans realized the psychological effect it had on enemy troops, they intentionally included and enhanced the whistle sound in artilleries to disrupt the targeted troops.

This was known as a 'screaming mimi'. It became a cliché in movies to hear the draining whistle sound of incoming rounds. Eventually, just the sound of the screaming mimi would send troops into panic and hysteria.

German V-1 and V-2 'rockets' also had a substantial psychological effect.  The V-1s came in with a buzzing sound due to the flappers on their jet engines.  But the V-2s were worse.  The Brits would hear the sound of the rockets overhead.  And then nothing.  The rocket would lose power and begin falling silently to the earth.  That period of silence between the time the rocket engine cut off and the explosion when the rocket hit the ground was terrifying.
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« Reply #4768 on: September 14, 2024, 11:41:32 pm »
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« Reply #4769 on: September 14, 2024, 11:42:35 pm »
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« Reply #4770 on: September 14, 2024, 11:44:00 pm »
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« Reply #4771 on: September 14, 2024, 11:45:08 pm »
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« Reply #4772 on: September 14, 2024, 11:47:19 pm »
Shahed drone.  Russia sends these en masse to attack Ukrainian civilian targets.

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« Reply #4773 on: September 14, 2024, 11:56:15 pm »
Now Britain is backing off their promise.

Starmer is ‘playing into Putin’s hands’ over Storm Shadow permission delay, says Grant Shapps

Daniel Martin  •  14 September 2024  •  1:16pm


Sir Keir Starmer delays permission for Ukraine to use missiles while waiting for US approval Credit: SIMON DAWSON/BLOOMBERG

Grant Shapps has accused Sir Keir Starmer of “playing into Putin’s hands” by delaying an announcement on whether Ukraine can fire British-made missiles into Russia.

The former defence secretary said the Prime Minister should give the green light now, rather than waiting for US approval.

Sir Ben Wallace, another former defence secretary, said the “tug of war” over the use of the missiles would embolden Vladimir Putin.

Sir Keir flew to Washington and held intensive talks with Joe Biden on Friday to discuss pleas from Volodymyr Zelensky, the president of Ukraine, over permission to use the Storm Shadow missiles.

There was no announcement on the missiles afterwards, but the Prime Minister suggested an answer could come at the UN General Assembly later this month.

Mr Shapps said: “Starmer’s hesitation to support Ukraine while waiting for US approval risks emboldening Putin and seriously undermines Kyiv’s chances of victory.

“This is a moment for decisive leadership, not cautious delay. We need to act now to provide president Zelensky with the support he desperately needs to turn the tide. Anything less only plays into Putin’s hands.”  .  .  .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/09/14/starmer-is-playing-into-putins-hands-storm-shadow-delay/


Starmer needs to grow a pair and tell Joe Biden to STFU.  Do we want other NATO countries to start stepping to the plate or not?
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« Reply #4774 on: September 14, 2024, 11:57:46 pm »
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