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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3878 on: August 09, 2024, 12:29:53 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3883 on: August 09, 2024, 12:39:01 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3884 on: August 09, 2024, 12:41:07 am »
One Of Ukraine’s Toughest And Fastest Brigades Has Joined The Invasion Of Russia

David Axe  |  Aug 8, 2024  |  03:52pm EDT


A column of armored vehicles rolling into southern Russia’s Kursk Oblast on the third day of Ukraine’s surprise attack into Russia confirms the involvement of one of Ukraine’s best-equipped and fastest-moving brigades: the 80th Air Assault Brigade.

The Ukrainian 80th Air Assault Brigade in training.
The Ukrainian 80th Air Assault Brigade in training.80th Air Assault Brigade
A column of armored vehicles rolling into southern Russia’s Kursk Oblast on the third day of Ukraine’s surprise attack into Russia confirms the involvement of one of Ukraine’s best-equipped and fastest-moving brigades: the 80th Air Assault Brigade.

A video that circulated on social media on Thursday depicts a T-64BV or T-80BV tank, a UR-77 mine-clearing vehicles, an IMR-2 engineering vehicle plus BTR-80 and U.S.-made Stryker wheeled armored personnel carriers rolling past a busy Ukrainian mortar crew. All the vehicles are up-armored with anti-drone cages. Infantry crowd the top of the BTR-80.

An 82-millimeter mortar lobs a bomb at most a couple of miles. It’s clear from the context that the video captures the early moments of a serious Ukrainian assault on Russian positions.

Only the 80th Air Assault Brigade operates that mix of ex-Soviet and ex-American vehicles. Further confirmation is found in a separate video—shot by a Russian drone—depicting strikes on ex-German Marder tracked fighting vehicles in Kursk Oblast.

The 80th Air Assault Brigade, like its sister unit the 82nd Air Assault Brigade, apparently operates Marders alongside its Strykers. The Marders are heavy. The Strykers are fast. They suit the Ukrainian air assault forces’ preference for swift but powerful attacks.

The participation of the 80th Air Assault Brigade—one of the better Ukrainian brigades—underscores the scale of the Ukrainian operation just north of Ukraine’s northern border with Russia.  .  .

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/08/08/one-of-ukraines-toughest-and-fastest-brigades-has-joined-the-invasion-of-russia/
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3885 on: August 09, 2024, 12:43:36 am »
Between the raid into Ruzzia and the raid on their favorite child molester Scott Ritter the Ruzzian trolls are all losing their minds right now.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3886 on: August 09, 2024, 12:44:52 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3887 on: August 09, 2024, 07:52:42 am »
The Russian Media is helping Ukraine:





https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1821865861734359107
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3888 on: August 09, 2024, 11:14:26 am »
Russian voluntary (should I have used "scare quotes"?) evacuations are from cities 40-50 miles from the Ukrainian border.

Ukraine isn't announcing specifics, and online pix seem to be from secured locations well behind the spearheads. Ukraine isn't giving out info that would dispel Russian confusion and uncertainty.

In general, what seems to have happened is that Russian has stripped forces from key areas and sent them to their areas of attack. Further, Russia so believed their Ukraine-is-exhausted propaganda that they missed the movement and massing of thousands of troops and vehicles toward Kursk, a massive intelligence failure.

I wonder how happy the bypassed Chechens are with how and where they were deployed and bypassed. @#$%^ed by the Russians again!
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3889 on: August 09, 2024, 11:49:03 am »
Russian voluntary (should I have used "scare quotes"?) evacuations are from cities 40-50 miles from the Ukrainian border.

Ukraine isn't announcing specifics, and online pix seem to be from secured locations well behind the spearheads. Ukraine isn't giving out info that would dispel Russian confusion and uncertainty.

In general, what seems to have happened is that Russian has stripped forces from key areas and sent them to their areas of attack. Further, Russia so believed their Ukraine-is-exhausted propaganda that they missed the movement and massing of thousands of troops and vehicles toward Kursk, a massive intelligence failure.

I wonder how happy the bypassed Chechens are with how and where they were deployed and bypassed. @#$%^ed by the Russians again!

Didn't the Chechens run away as soon as the shooting started?  I don't think they were willing combatants.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3890 on: August 09, 2024, 12:37:05 pm »
Eighty years ago "The Russian Front" was a death sentence for German soldiers.

Now it's a death sentence for Russian soldiers.

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« Reply #3891 on: August 09, 2024, 01:49:55 pm »
It is stunning to see how completely brainwashed these Russian citizens are after 2½ years of war.  They feign such hypocritical outrage that Ukrainian soldiers would bring upset to their peaceful lives as if their government is the source of everything good in this world.  I am reminded of the liberation of Dachau in 1945 where American commanders rounded up the local population, brought them to the camp, and forced them to bury the dead victims of their government.

Ukraine should bring buses in and load them up with Russian citizens, drive them to Vovchansk, and put them to work cleaning up the destruction brought about by the Russian government over the past couple of months.

A young (still alive) Russian woman in a video above is in tears because her house was destroyed.  The dead Ukrainian civilians buried under the rubble of the buildings below didn't get that opportunity to exercise their own righteous indignation.  Russians need to know.  Every Russian citizen needs to know what they started and what they have done, just like the citizens of Dachau.







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« Reply #3893 on: August 09, 2024, 03:39:56 pm »
China claims land in Russia

Since the "Three day war" in Ukraine, Russia has become weak and pathetic.

It is our obligation to take back what Russia has stolen from us.
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« Reply #3894 on: August 09, 2024, 04:51:59 pm »
China claims land in Russia

Since the 'Three day war" in Ukraine, Russia has become weak and pathetic.

It is our obligation to take back what Russia has stolen from us.

Is this a news article? If so, link please!  :yowsa:
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« Reply #3895 on: August 09, 2024, 05:14:06 pm »
It is possible that Putin will be the architect of the complete dissolution of the "Soviet Empire".
Putin will gain NOTHING, and he will lose EVERTHING.
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« Reply #3896 on: August 09, 2024, 05:47:37 pm »
This incursion into Russia makes me nervous. There has never been an attack that wasn't squashed. The Ukranian army is much smaller (perhaps fiercer).

And perhaps the Russian army/population has changed. In the past I never read of them fleeing.

Bottom line...it still makes me nervous.

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« Reply #3897 on: August 09, 2024, 06:07:16 pm »
And perhaps the Russian army/population has changed. In the past I never read of them fleeing.
There is no need to "flee" if you are 'invading' yourself. The people there want to be 'invaded'.
This is a case of the Soviet Union fighting against a free people. They are at war with themselves.
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« Reply #3899 on: August 09, 2024, 07:05:21 pm »
Entire cities are gone in Ukraine.  Yet this is what Russians know:


from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1en1gnq/a_russian_citizen_in_kursk_region_cant_believe/

Awww, po widdle baby.  Now you know what your country has been inflicting on innocent Ukrainians for the past 2+ years.  GFY.