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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3425 on: July 03, 2024, 10:50:00 pm »
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« Reply #3427 on: July 03, 2024, 11:46:08 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3429 on: July 05, 2024, 09:46:18 am »
This was from yesterday



Ukrainian soldiers play the Star Spangled Banner

https://twitter.com/robert_zubrin/status/1808964209482301556
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« Reply #3430 on: July 05, 2024, 09:59:30 am »
Time running out for Ukrainians fleeing Russia's advance

 In the devastated eastern Ukrainian town of Toretsk, time is running out for anyone wanting to leave.
Russian forces are advancing slowly but surely, pummelling the town night and day with rockets, artillery fire and air attacks, part of a broad advance in the Donetsk region that Ukraine has been unable to stop.
Piles of rubble lie where buildings once stood, burned out apartment blocks have become unliveable, a church tower has fallen and plumes of smoke rise in the near distance from incoming shells.
In a residential courtyard a group of mainly elderly residents gather to listen to Ivan, a police officer in camouflage fatigues who is trying to convince them to leave Toretsk with his evacuation team.
Hundreds of officers like him and Ukrainian volunteers are trying to do the same in towns and villages along the frontline before they are reduced to rubble and subsumed into territory held by the Russians.
"Are you all staying?" he asked, speaking firmly and quickly. "Can you not see how the situation is changing? If you think you will sit it out - this is not going to happen."
His offer has been taken up by some and turned down by others. Many people who remain do not want to leave for an uncertain life in safer parts of Ukraine. Others refuse to be separated from elderly relatives and friends.
"It is just me that is left, everyone else is buried," said Valentyna, a former school headmistress who gave only her first name. "Planes are flying in every night and attacking, especially the last two days," added the 75-year-old, crying.

'ALL COVERED IN BLOOD'

A woman next to her shouted: "God has given us earth and sky, and they (the Russians) trampled all over it, covered it in blood. It is all covered in blood. And the young boys..."
Some 5,000 people remain in Toretsk, according to Tetyana Nikonova, a representative of the local military administration, speaking as residents wanting to evacuate gathered around minivans with a few personal belongings.
That compares with an estimated population of some 35,000 a decade ago.
"Many people refuse to leave. We talk to them, the boys try to convince them, but they do not want to go," she said. "We offer them all that we can, accommodation, transport, all for free, but people hide in basements."....................

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-running-out-ukrainians-fleeing-russias-advance-2024-07-05/

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3431 on: July 05, 2024, 10:48:40 am »
This seals the deal, I'm not voting for Trump, but it also doesn't mean I'll be voting for whoever the Dem nominee is:


https://twitter.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1808892745995477389
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« Reply #3432 on: July 05, 2024, 10:58:25 am »
Time running out for Ukrainians fleeing Russia's advance

 In the devastated eastern Ukrainian town of Toretsk, time is running out for anyone wanting to leave.
Russian forces are advancing slowly but surely, pummelling the town night and day with rockets, artillery fire and air attacks, part of a broad advance in the Donetsk region that Ukraine has been unable to stop.
Piles of rubble lie where buildings once stood, burned out apartment blocks have become unliveable, a church tower has fallen and plumes of smoke rise in the near distance from incoming shells.
In a residential courtyard a group of mainly elderly residents gather to listen to Ivan, a police officer in camouflage fatigues who is trying to convince them to leave Toretsk with his evacuation team.
Hundreds of officers like him and Ukrainian volunteers are trying to do the same in towns and villages along the frontline before they are reduced to rubble and subsumed into territory held by the Russians.
"Are you all staying?" he asked, speaking firmly and quickly. "Can you not see how the situation is changing? If you think you will sit it out - this is not going to happen."
His offer has been taken up by some and turned down by others. Many people who remain do not want to leave for an uncertain life in safer parts of Ukraine. Others refuse to be separated from elderly relatives and friends.
"It is just me that is left, everyone else is buried," said Valentyna, a former school headmistress who gave only her first name. "Planes are flying in every night and attacking, especially the last two days," added the 75-year-old, crying.

'ALL COVERED IN BLOOD'

A woman next to her shouted: "God has given us earth and sky, and they (the Russians) trampled all over it, covered it in blood. It is all covered in blood. And the young boys..."
Some 5,000 people remain in Toretsk, according to Tetyana Nikonova, a representative of the local military administration, speaking as residents wanting to evacuate gathered around minivans with a few personal belongings.
That compares with an estimated population of some 35,000 a decade ago.
"Many people refuse to leave. We talk to them, the boys try to convince them, but they do not want to go," she said. "We offer them all that we can, accommodation, transport, all for free, but people hide in basements."....................

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-running-out-ukrainians-fleeing-russias-advance-2024-07-05/

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3433 on: July 05, 2024, 11:07:46 am »
This seals the deal, I'm not voting for Trump, but it also doesn't mean I'll be voting for whoever the Dem nominee is:


https://twitter.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1808892745995477389


Yeah, Trump's plan is essentially to cut off arms and munitions to Ukraine and force Zelensky to surrender to Putin.  If Trump had been president in 1940 Britain would have been conquered by the Nazis.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3434 on: July 05, 2024, 11:13:59 am »
Every few 1000 posts I need to remind that Russia is No. 11 in the world in GDP.  They have an old and dying demographic profile.  This is a nation in steep decline. 

Granted Putin is POS despoted dictator, but minus nukes, he couldn't conquer Italy.  Once we pass the Trillion mark in aid, I hope someone realizes how this investment has panned out, given what is happening at our southern border.
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« Reply #3435 on: July 05, 2024, 11:56:18 am »
Yeah, Trump's plan is essentially to cut off arms and munitions to Ukraine and force Zelensky to surrender to Putin.  If Trump had been president in 1940 Britain would have been conquered by the Nazis.

Thank God FDR saved the UK so it could be conquered by the Muslims.
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« Reply #3436 on: July 05, 2024, 11:59:14 am »
I am wondering how the Labour Party landslide win in the UK will impact their support of Ukraine.
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« Reply #3437 on: July 05, 2024, 02:00:11 pm »
I am wondering how the Labour Party landslide win in the UK will impact their support of Ukraine.


Unlike both parties here in America, both parties support Ukraine.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3445 on: July 05, 2024, 02:55:58 pm »
Taliban Is Russia's Ally in Its Fight Against Terrorism, Says Putin

MARYNA KULAKOVA  |  Jul 05, 2024  |  14:02



Taliban security personnel stand guard atop a Humevee vehicle during a game of 'Buzkashi', a traditional Central Asian sport,
at a field in Fayzabad, Badakhshan province, in April 2024. Source: Getty Images


Russian self-proclaimed President Vladimir Putin regards the radical Islamist movement ‘Taliban’ as an ally in Russia’s “fight against terrorism.”

The Taliban controls power in Afghanistan, making them “undoubtedly” allies of Russia in combating terrorism, Putin told journalists at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) summit on Thursday, July 4, in Astana.

“We must acknowledge that the Taliban control the government in the country. In this sense, the Taliban are certainly our allies in the fight against terrorism, because any government is interested in stability in the state it governs. We have received signals from the Taliban movement multiple times indicating their readiness to collaborate with us on the anti-terrorism front,” said Putin.

Despite Putin’s statement, the Taliban movement is classified as a terrorist organization in Russia itself and was recognized as one in 2003 — after it was included in the corresponding list by the UN Security Council. It is similarly recognized as such by the authorities of Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkey, and Canada. Criminal cases are still being initiated in Russia for “justifying the activities of the Taliban movement.”

Vladimir Putin’s foreign policy strategy actively aligns with dictatorial governments and groups, such as Syria’s Bashar al-Assad regime and North Korea’s Kim Jong-un leadership. Additionally, Moscow has been coordinating with the Houthis  .  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/taliban-is-russias-ally-in-its-fight-against-terrorism-says-putin-1068
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3446 on: July 05, 2024, 02:59:45 pm »
Ukrainian Strikes Severely Disrupt Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, with F-16s Expected to Shift the Balance Even More

OLGA GORDIIENKO  |  Jul 05, 2024  |  17:35


Commander of the Naval Forces of Ukraine, Vice-Admiral Oleksiy Neizhpapa, claims significant success in disrupting Russia’s Black Sea Fleet.

According to Neizhpapa, a series of Ukrainian missile and drone strikes have inflicted heavy damage on Sevastopol, the fleet’s main base in occupied Crimea.

This critical hub, responsible for repairs, maintenance, training, and ammunition storage, is reportedly becoming increasingly dysfunctional. Neizhpapa’s statement suggests the strikes have forced Russia to relocate most of its combat-ready warships from Crimea.

“They were established over many decades, possibly centuries. And clearly they are now losing this hub,” he stated in his interview with Reuters, on July 4.

Neizhpapa expressed optimism regarding the delivery of F-16 fighter jets, which he believes, will be a game-changer, enabling Ukraine to contest Russia’s current “full dominance” of the Black Sea airspace.  .  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/ukrainian-strikes-severely-disrupt-russias-black-sea-fleet-with-f-16s-expected-to-shift-the-balance-even-more-1077
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #3448 on: July 05, 2024, 03:01:58 pm »
Taliban Is Russia's Ally in Its Fight Against Terrorism, Says Putin



The same Taliban that kicked their ass back in 1980?  I love examples of unintended consequences.
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« Reply #3449 on: July 05, 2024, 03:03:34 pm »
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