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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1200 on: August 06, 2023, 08:39:17 am »
In a just world, Putin would be run feet first through a wood chipper and Russia would be dismembered into 25 mini states that would not threaten their neighbors.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1201 on: August 06, 2023, 09:39:12 am »
Retaliation?  So what is Russia gonna do?  Fire a bunch of missiles at Ukrainian civilian targets?  Blow up a major dam?  Kidnap Ukrainian children and ship them to Russia?  Burn food crops?  Rape and execute civilians and pile their bodies into mass graves?

@Hoodat

VERY valid points!

Maybe the next move will be to  put them  on Super Secret Restrictions?
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« Reply #1202 on: August 06, 2023, 11:04:46 am »
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Russia promises retaliation after Ukrainian drones hit a Russian tanker in 2nd sea attack in a day

Pittsburgh Post Gazette by Hanna Arhirova 8/5/2023

KYIV, Ukraine — Moscow promised retaliation Saturday after Ukrainian drones hit a Russian tanker in the Black Sea near Crimea late Friday, the second sea attack involving drones in one day.

Ukraine struck a major Russian port earlier on Friday.

Moscow strongly condemned what it sees as a Ukrainian “terrorist attack” on a civilian vessel in the Kerch Strait, said Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova.

1. If the tanker was supplying fuel to Crimea, it was "fair game".

2. If the tanker was exporting Russian oil to elsewhere in the world, Russian attacks on Ukrainian grain exports on a Danube River port made the Russian tanker "fair game".
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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« Reply #1203 on: August 06, 2023, 01:59:20 pm »
Russia launches missile, drone barrage against Ukraine as promised after suffering tanker strike

By Ronny Reyes
August 6, 2023

Russia made good on its threat to retaliate against Ukraine for bombing a Kremlin tanker, unleashing a massive and deadly missile and drone strike Sunday.

Ukrainian military officials confirmed that waves of 70 Russian drones and missiles were launched over the Caspian Sea to lay waste to cities in western Ukraine.

The overnight blitz and counterattack killed at least six people.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy condemned the Russian strike, noting one of the bombs hit a blood transfusion center in Kupyan in the Kharkiv region.

“This war crime alone says everything about Russian aggression,” Zelenskyy said. “Defeating terrorists is a matter of honor for everyone who values life.”

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/08/06/russia-launches-missile-drone-barrage-against-ukraine-as-promised/

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« Reply #1204 on: August 06, 2023, 04:11:57 pm »
Ukraine strikes two key bridges into Russian-occupied Crimea with 'UK-supplied Storm Shadow missiles' after Moscow targeted Ukrainian airbase with three waves of attacks

Chonhar bridge was damaged and small bridge across Tonky Strait was shelled

By JAMES CALLERY and CHRIS MATTHEWS
6 August 2023

Ukrainian troops damaged two key bridges leading into Russian-occupied Crimea with 'Storm Shadow missiles supplied by the UK' today.

The Chonhar bridge linking mainland Ukraine to Crimea was damaged and a small bridge across the Tonky Strait was also shelled.

Continuing attacks by Zelensky's forces are making it increasingly hard for Putin's invading army to get on and off the peninsula, which Russia seized from Ukraine in 2014.

Crimea is of military importance to Moscow as well as a popular tourist destination for Russians.

The missile strikes today came after Russia carried out three waves of attacks on Ukraine last night.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12378317/Ukraine-strikes-two-key-bridges-Russian-occupied-Crimea-UK-supplied-Storm-Shadow-missiles-Moscow-targeted-Ukrainian-airbase-three-waves-attacks.html

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« Reply #1205 on: August 06, 2023, 04:39:20 pm »

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1206 on: August 07, 2023, 06:54:58 am »
The Russians hunting for cheap flats in occupied Mariupol

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-66393949

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It is one year since the Ukrainian city of Mariupol was largely destroyed by Russian forces and captured.

It is now being transformed and presented as a showcase for rule from Moscow - and some Russians are even hoping to buy homes there.

Russia claimed to have annexed Mariupol, along with all other occupied areas, following a series of referendums that have been widely condemned as sham exercises.

About 90% of the city's buildings were damaged or destroyed by Russian shelling during a gruelling two-month siege. Thousands of civilians were killed and about 350,000 people left, out of the pre-war population of 430,000, according to the UN.

Now, the occupation authorities seem intent on "Russifying" the city, changing Ukrainian-language road signs to Russian ones, introducing the Russian curriculum in schools and pushing the remaining residents to acquire Russian passports.

BBC Verify has used satellite footage to map how Russia is reshaping the fabric of the city.

It has also found that while new development is ongoing, extensive destruction remains - and it has heard from remaining pre-war residents who fear an uncertain future.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1207 on: August 07, 2023, 07:37:07 am »


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It has also found that while new development is ongoing, extensive destruction remains - and it has heard from remaining pre-war residents who fear an uncertain future.

BS. They face a future as slaves of the Soviets. That is THE most certain thing you will read today.
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« Reply #1208 on: August 07, 2023, 07:49:46 am »
The Russians hunting for cheap flats in occupied Mariupol

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-66393949

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I’ll bet the Putards who have taken over TQS are jerking themselves silly over this.

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« Reply #1209 on: August 07, 2023, 08:31:29 am »
Anti-Putin Russians 'blow up fuel and ammo depot inside occupied Ukraine' as they widen their attacks following strikes in border regions

The anti-Putin Freedom of Russia Legion claimed the strike in Zaitseve, Donetsk
Group formed in spring 2022 to fight for Ukraine against 'Putin's armed gang'

By ARTHUR PARASHAR  and WILL STEWART
7 August 2023

Russians fighting Vladimir Putin claim to have blown up a fuel and ammunition depot inside occupied Ukraine as they widen their attacks following strikes in border regions.

The Freedom of Russia Legion - which was formed in spring 2022 to fight for Ukraine - claimed a mortar strike on the village of Zaitseve in the Donetsk region.

Dramatic drone footage captured the moment that the depot was transformed into a raging inferno as huge plumes of smoke billowed into the sky.

The anti-Putin group said the strike hit a depot where mines and shells were stashed by Russian forces. The Russian defence ministry did not comment on the attack.

The legion's drone operators in the 1st UAV company and a mortar battery platoon were behind the strike.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12380131/Anti-Putin-Russians-blow-fuel-ammo-depot-inside-occupied-Ukraine-widen-attacks-following-strikes-border-regions.html

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1210 on: August 07, 2023, 09:47:48 am »
What's with all these reports of Russians BUYING land and putting up buildings?

Have the people writing these stories forgotten  that Russia is a slave nation,and "the state" owns everything,including them?

Even the large estate outside Moscow that is REPORTED to be owned by Putin is NOT his. It is HIS TO USE WHILE SERVING AS THE MAXIMUM LEADER,but the same day he is no longer in office is the day  he no longer owns that estate,his enormous private yacht,or his private jet passenger airplane.

The  only thing I can GUESS at is these people are reporting how much they  are having to pay in bribes to be allowed to live near the ocean. They will NOT "own" anything. The "State" will own it and they pay bribes to get permission to live in it.

Which,when you really think about it isn't radically different from our system. 
 

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1211 on: August 07, 2023, 02:42:52 pm »
Female Russian ‘spy’ detained in failed Zelensky assassination plot: Ukraine

By Snejana Farberov
August 7, 2023

A female Russian “spy” has been detained after allegedly leaking information to the enemy as part of a plot to assassinate President Volodymyr Zelensky during his recent trip to the Mokylaiv region, Ukraine’s security service said.

The Security Service of Ukraine, known as SBU, said in a statement Monday that the suspect, who was not publicly identified, “was collecting data for an airstrike during Zelensky’s visit.”

The collaborator tried to establish the route of Zelensky’s motorcade, times and locations on his itinerary during his visit to the region in late July, during which the president met with wounded soldiers recovering in local hospitals and handed out state awards to doctors.

The woman — labeled a “traitor” by the SBU — was allegedly caught “red-handed” on the eve of Zelensky’s trip when she tried to pass the information to the Russians, the statement said.

The security service in Mykolaiv was “proactive” and “additional security measures were taken during the visit.”

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/08/07/russian-spy-detained-in-failed-zelensky-assassination-plot/

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1212 on: August 08, 2023, 06:09:05 am »
Female Russian ‘spy’ detained in failed Zelensky assassination plot: Ukraine

By Snejana Farberov
August 7, 2023

A female Russian “spy” has been detained after allegedly leaking information to the enemy as part of a plot to assassinate President Volodymyr Zelensky during his recent trip to the Mokylaiv region, Ukraine’s security service said.

The Security Service of Ukraine, known as SBU, said in a statement Monday that the suspect, who was not publicly identified, “was collecting data for an airstrike during Zelensky’s visit.”

The collaborator tried to establish the route of Zelensky’s motorcade, times and locations on his itinerary during his visit to the region in late July, during which the president met with wounded soldiers recovering in local hospitals and handed out state awards to doctors.

The woman — labeled a “traitor” by the SBU — was allegedly caught “red-handed” on the eve of Zelensky’s trip when she tried to pass the information to the Russians, the statement said.

The security service in Mykolaiv was “proactive” and “additional security measures were taken during the visit.”

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/08/07/russian-spy-detained-in-failed-zelensky-assassination-plot/

I know the Geneva convention is sort of a joke, but is this sort of thing against it?

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« Reply #1213 on: August 08, 2023, 06:20:55 am »
I know the Geneva convention is sort of a joke, but is this sort of thing against it?

What?  Catching spies?

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« Reply #1214 on: August 08, 2023, 08:21:17 am »
Orcs will be orcs ...


Tortured on the front line: Horrific video 'shows Ukrainian soldier beaten with an axe and an assault rifle's barrel buried in his ear as he is interrogated by Russian captors'

The appalling incident is believed to have unfolded on Sunday in Luhansk region
See Richard Pendlebury and Jamie Wiseman's full video from the front lines on our YouTube Channel

By WILL STEWART
8 August 2023

Horrific new footage from the frontlines of Ukraine appears to show the moment Russian soldiers forced a testimony from a Ukrainian PoW after threatening him with an axe and pushing the barrel of an assault rifle into his ear.

At least three Russian soldiers or mercenaries are seen demanding that the captive reveal positions of his Kyiv troop comrades at the frontline.

Russian pro-war channels published the sickening video which, if confirmed as authentic, would constitute evidence of war crimes, flouting the Geneva Convention on the Treatment of Prisoners of War.

One claimed: 'This is how [Ukrainian] POWs are broken.'

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12384353/Ukrainian-soldier-beaten-axe-assault-rifles-barrel-buried-ear-interrogated-Russian-captors.html

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1215 on: August 08, 2023, 03:56:37 pm »
Ukraine claims to uncover sleeper cell of female spies working for Russia

By Snejana Farberov
August 8, 2023

Ukraine claimed to have dismantled an all-female spy network operating in the Donetsk region, which allegedly had been leaking information to Russia’s intelligence services and Wagner Group mercenaries.

“The group consisted exclusively of local women who supported Russia’s armed aggression against Ukraine,” the Security Service of Ukraine, known as the SBU, said in a statement Tuesday.

The SBU said that its Counterintelligence unit has arrested three women, all living in the city of Pokrovsk, as they were “conducting reconnaissance.”

Ukrainian investigators also allegedly identified a senior member of the spy ring, who at the beginning of the war relocated to Russia to coordinate her “team” remotely.

According to the SBU, all four intelligence assets had been recruited by the Russians before the war “and until recently were on standby.”

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/08/08/ukraine-claims-to-uncover-female-spy-ring-working-for-russia/

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« Reply #1216 on: August 08, 2023, 04:13:38 pm »
FWIW, Pokrovsk is about 30 miles NW of the outskirts of the Russian-occupied city of Donetsk and in Ukrainian controlled territory. Pokrovsk is also the junction of several significant highways, i.e. a significant transportation hub through which the passing of Ukrainian forces might be observable.
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« Reply #1217 on: August 08, 2023, 11:06:10 pm »
Ukraine crosses Dnieper at Kozachi


If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

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If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1219 on: August 09, 2023, 08:03:52 am »
War arrives on Putin's doorstep: Huge explosion tears through Russian defence plant near Moscow as drone attack targets the capital

The blast tore through the Zagorsk Optical-Mechanical Plant in Sergiyev Posad, 46 miles northeast of Moscow. The plant makes optical devices for the military
Blast came after Moscow said it had downed two drones close to the capital

By CHRIS JEWERS and WILL STEWART
9 August 2023

A Russian defence plant was evacuated this morning after a major explosion at the site sent a huge plume of smoke into the sky, towering over nearby buildings.

It came hours after Moscow became the target of another drone attack overnight, with Russia saying it had shot down two Ukraine UAVs near the capital, in the latest in a string of attacks on and around the country's capital in recent months.

The explosion at the Zagorsk Optical-Mechanical Plant also initially prompted reports of a drone strike, but this was quickly denied by Russian officials.

A huge mushroom cloud was seen over the plant in Sergiyev Posad, 46 miles northeast of Moscow. A witness said 'the whole plant is in ruins'.

A total of 31 were wounded but a rising toll of casualties was feared, said governor Andrey Vorobyov, with 19 needing hospital treatment. Three are in a serious condition, reports said.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12388161/Explosion-tears-Russian-defence-plant-near-Moscow.html

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« Reply #1220 on: August 09, 2023, 08:05:08 am »
Putin's junkyard war machines: Russia 'deploys 1,500 rusting mothballed tanks from Siberian dump' after suffering huge losses in Ukraine

Among the old tanks are T-62s, produced up to 1975, and T-55 and T-54 models
Decision to take tanks out of storage comes amid Russia's significant losses to its military hardware, with low estimates suggesting Putin has lost over 2,200 tanks

By WILL STEWART and CHRIS JEWERS
9 August 2023

Vladimir Putin has been forced to deploy almost half his mothballed old tanks and armoured vehicles from a major Siberian open-air depot after suffering huge losses in Ukraine.

Some 1,570 rusting war machines have been moved from their Siberian dump and restored to service for the Russian president's war against Ukraine, say reports.

More than 40 per cent of the 3,840 tanks and military vehicles shown on satellite pictures from Google Earth at Vagzhanovo military equipment depot before the war have now been taken out of storage, it is claimed.

The site in the Buryatia republic is the largest in Russia covering five square miles.

Footage shows repurposed antiquated tanks from storage sites like Vagzhanovo - of which there are several across Russia - being moved to the war zone by military train.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12388039/Russia-deploys-Soviet-mothballed-tanks-dump.html

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« Reply #1221 on: August 09, 2023, 09:42:36 am »
What?  Catching spies?

No, trying to assassinate a head of state.

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« Reply #1222 on: August 11, 2023, 10:00:16 am »
Ukraine orders 12,000 people from 37 towns and villages to evacuate as Russian forces look to punch through the front line with a series of missile strikes

    Ukraine says Russia has gathered troops in the Kupiansk area of Kharkiv Oblast

By Matthew Lodge and Associated Press
10 August 2023

Ukraine has ordered the mandatory evacuation of nearly 12,000 people from 37 towns and villages amid threats of a concerted effort by Russian forces to punch through the front line.

Thousands of people living in the Kupiansk district of the eastern region of Kharkiv have been told by the authorities that to stay they must sign forms saying they know the risks, as 'high intensity' combat and enemy shelling takes place in the area.

The city of Kupiansk and the territories around it were under Russian occupation until September 2022, when Ukrainian forces conducted a rapid offensive operation that dislodged the Kremlin's forces from nearly the entire Kharkiv region.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12395315/Ukraine-orders-12-000-people-37-towns-villages-evacuate-Russian-forces-look-punch-line-series-missile-strikes.html

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« Reply #1223 on: August 11, 2023, 01:12:16 pm »
Join The Reagan Caucus: https://reagancaucus.org/ and the Eisenhower Caucus: https://EisenhowerCaucus.org

Ronald Reagan: “Rather than...talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems and make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit…earning here they pay taxes here.”

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« Reply #1224 on: August 11, 2023, 01:31:48 pm »
Ukraine orders 12,000 people from 37 towns and villages to evacuate as Russian forces look to punch through the front line with a series of missile strikes

    Ukraine says Russia has gathered troops in the Kupiansk area of Kharkiv Oblast
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Ukraine is also concerned about spies in the area. If a spy stays, they lack people to blend in with. If a spy leaves, they are not in the area to observe and report what Ukraine does.
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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« Reply #1225 on: August 12, 2023, 12:02:53 pm »
Smoke billows from Russia's Kerch bridge to Crimea: Kremlin claims to have shot down two Ukrainian missiles aimed at crucial link to annexed peninsula

    The £3billion bridge connecting Russia to Crimea carries heavy significance

By Arthur Parashar
12 August 2023

The Kremlin has claimed it has downed two Ukrainian missiles aimed at Russia's Kerch Bridge to Crimea - as video shows smoke billowing over the crucial link to the annexed peninsula.

The 12-mile crossing carries heavy significance for Moscow, both logistically and psychologically, as a key artery for military and civilian supplies and as an assertion of Kremlin control of the peninsula it illegally annexed in 2014.

Russia's foreign ministry vowed retaliation for what it called a 'terrorist attack' on the bridge in Crimea.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12400025/Smoke-billows-Russias-Kerch-bridge-Crimea-Kremlin-claims-shot-two-Ukrainian-missiles-aimed-crucial-link-annexed-peninsula.html

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« Reply #1226 on: August 12, 2023, 12:54:59 pm »
Were the missiles "shot down" by the bridge?
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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« Reply #1227 on: August 13, 2023, 01:20:07 am »
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

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« Last Edit: August 13, 2023, 01:25:38 am by Hoodat »
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

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« Reply #1229 on: August 13, 2023, 10:25:58 am »
As Ukrainian forces advance toward the Black Sea, this supply highway comes within range of more types of artillery systems. In addition to being a main supply route into Crimea this highway is als key to supplying the Russian forces north of it that are being attacked. And of course, seaborne supply to Crimea is also getting hazardous.

Maybe Putin should declare Mariupol, Berdyansk, Melitopol, Simferopol, and Sevastopol to be Fortress Cities.
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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« Reply #1230 on: August 13, 2023, 11:17:56 pm »
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« Reply #1231 on: August 14, 2023, 03:54:12 am »
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« Reply #1232 on: August 14, 2023, 09:15:32 am »
For the second time I ran into a group of Ukrainians working on projects in my town.  Some where emigres before the war, and some are here temporarily because of the war.  Anyone else come across this?

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« Reply #1233 on: August 14, 2023, 10:54:27 am »
People have been immigrating to the US from Ukraine for well over a century, my grandparents among them. Our previous neighbors for quite a few years were either from Ukraine or were first-generation Americans of Ukrainian parentage.
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« Reply #1234 on: August 14, 2023, 12:20:37 pm »
My paternal grandparents from Ukraine too....But havent been too many since the DPs from WWII in our neck of the woods as our industrial base  and jobs went away.  So it has been interesting to withness the recent arrivals

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« Reply #1235 on: August 14, 2023, 12:42:11 pm »
For the second time I ran into a group of Ukrainians working on projects in my town.  Some where emigres before the war, and some are here temporarily because of the war.  Anyone else come across this?
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« Reply #1236 on: August 14, 2023, 02:22:48 pm »
My paternal grandparents from Ukraine too....But havent been too many since the DPs from WWII in our neck of the woods as our industrial base  and jobs went away.  So it has been interesting to withness the recent arrivals

There probably weren't many Ukrainians emigrating to much of anywhere between 1945 and 1990.
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« Reply #1237 on: August 14, 2023, 04:21:23 pm »
He let the cat out of the bag...

Prague Will Be Ours Again, Says Russian Propagandist on State TV

https://www.praguemorning.cz/nikolay-vavilov-prague/

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While the Russian army continues to defend its positions in the Donbas, a year and a half since the onset of the Ukrainian invasion, Russian media is already discussing the possibility of expanding Russian territory deep into Central Europe.

As Novinky reports, on Russian television, propagandist Nikolay Vavilov recently asserted that the envisioned revitalized Russian empire should encompass cities like Prague and Berlin.

“It will continue endlessly, and we will progressively assume a role similar to that of the Russian Empire. I wasn’t joking when I mentioned on the previous program that Berlin, Dresden, Prague, and Ljubljana – they will all become part of our domain. Why? Because history shows that when we entered Paris in 1815 and Berlin in 1945, as well as during the late 18th century – these were not mere coincidences. Russia is the largest country in Europe and wields substantial power,” exclaimed Vavilov. He was a guest on the Pervyi Kanal TV discussion show, hosted by the well-known presenter Olga Skabeyeva

Vavilov’s ramblings evidently sparked amusement even on Russian television. Despite his assurance that he was speaking completely seriously, the corners of the mouths of both Skabeyeva and some other guests present during his speech twitched. “Why have we always withdrawn? Why have we been so irresponsible towards our victories?” Skabeyeva asked him.

A recording of the broadcast was posted on the social network by Anton Gerashchenko, an adviser to the Ukrainian Interior Minister.

Undeterred, Vavilov continued his impassioned speech, proclaiming, “True victory will be achieved when we stand in Kiev.”

Russian officials have made similar threats since the war in Ukraine broke out. For example, President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly threatened the West with a nuclear attack, Reuters recalled
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« Reply #1238 on: August 14, 2023, 04:42:36 pm »
He let the cat out of the bag...

Prague Will Be Ours Again, Says Russian Propagandist on State TV

Impossible.  This is just a "border war', according to one propagandist here.
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« Reply #1239 on: August 14, 2023, 04:58:14 pm »
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... but which border are they talking about?  There are so many to choose from?



On the brightside, Germany might get Konisberg back.
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« Reply #1240 on: August 15, 2023, 08:32:32 am »
Kyiv troops push Russian forces out of territory in the south and east

By CHRIS JEWERS
14 August 2023

Pictures from the frontlines have shown Ukrainian artillerymen raining fire down on Vladimir Putin 's invaders, as Kyiv 's troops continue their counter-offensive. The Ukrainian military said it had pushed Russian forces out of pockets of territory along the front lines in the east and south of the country, building on the grueling counter-offensive launched two months ago. The gains - announced by Ukraine's deputy defense minister - came as Russia claimed its forces had progressed in the eastern Kharkiv region, undermining Kyiv's highly anticipated campaign. However, reports have also suggested Ukraine has completed operations across a southern point on the Dnipro river, a key objective for Kyiv.

Ukraine kicked off its counter-offensive against Russian forces in June after building up assault battalions and stockpiling Western-donated weapons. But progress has been hampered by widespread Russian-laid minefields and strong fortifications, Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Maliar (pictured) said, with Kyiv saying it had only gained a clutch of land around the war-battered city of Bakhmut last week. Nevertheless, the Ukrainian military had pushed forward around the village of Staromaiorske, around 60 miles southwest of Russian-held Donetsk, and was pressing on two fronts in the south, Maliar said. She said troops were fighting for control of the neighboring settlement of Urozhaine. A Moscow-installed official in an occupied part of Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia region said on Sunday that Kyiv was attempting to pierce Russian lines by gaining a foothold in both villages which stand in the path of Ukraine's goal of reaching the Sea of Azov.

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« Reply #1241 on: August 15, 2023, 08:34:00 am »
Russia warns of 'nuclear catastrophe' in Ukraine... amid Western fears Kremlin is planning a false flag strike that will spread radioactive pollution across Europe

Russia said Ukraine was shelling its own nuclear power plant in Zaporizhzhia
It comes just days after Russian missiles destroyed an aid worker hotel there

By WILL STEWART
15 August 2023

Russian defence minister Sergei Shoigu today warned of 'nuclear catastrophe' in the war in Ukraine.

He spoke out amid Western fears that Russia is planning a false flag operation blaming Ukraine for a nuclear leak which could trigger radioactive pollution across Europe.

'There is an alarming situation developing around the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant,' said Vladimir Putin's defence minister.

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« Reply #1242 on: August 15, 2023, 01:55:13 pm »
Impossible.  This is just a "border war', according to one propagandist here.


I have seen news reports about some Russian Lawmakers who insist Russia take Alaska back.
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« Reply #1243 on: August 15, 2023, 11:38:45 pm »
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... but which border are they talking about?  There are so many to choose from?



On the brightside, Germany might get Konisberg back.
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« Reply #1244 on: August 15, 2023, 11:59:23 pm »
Ukraine has captured Urozhaine.  Next stop, Zavitne Bazhannya.  Then Staromlynivka.  When that falls, there will be a giant hole in the Russian line.  Not much of a defensive position behind it.
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« Reply #1246 on: August 16, 2023, 04:25:09 am »
Ukraine has captured Urozhaine.  Next stop, Zavitne Bazhannya.  Then Staromlynivka.  When that falls, there will be a giant hole in the Russian line.  Not much of a defensive position behind it.

Followed by a breakthrough and a fast-track to the Sea of Azov, splitting the orc army in two. 
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« Reply #1248 on: August 16, 2023, 06:34:12 am »

I have seen news reports about some Russian Lawmakers who insist Russia take Alaska back.

Yes indeed.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/07/russian-house-speaker-threatens-to-take-back-alaska-a78230

https://nypost.com/2022/07/08/vladimir-putins-stooges-threaten-to-reclaim-alaska-from-us/

https://www.businessinsider.com/kremlin-official-suggests-US-remember-Alaska-belonged-to-Russia-2022-7

That's one of the most frustrating things in trying to get the "not my fight" crowd to understand.  The Russian invasion of Ukraine was JUST THE START of a larger campaign to reclaim ALL the former Soviet republics and Imperial Russian territories, including Alaska.  They have forgotten about Chamberlain's efforts to appease Hitler in 1938, and how that turned out for Europe and the U.S. after 1939. 

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« Reply #1249 on: August 16, 2023, 12:30:02 pm »
Yes indeed.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/07/russian-house-speaker-threatens-to-take-back-alaska-a78230

https://nypost.com/2022/07/08/vladimir-putins-stooges-threaten-to-reclaim-alaska-from-us/

https://www.businessinsider.com/kremlin-official-suggests-US-remember-Alaska-belonged-to-Russia-2022-7

That's one of the most frustrating things in trying to get the "not my fight" crowd to understand.  The Russian invasion of Ukraine was JUST THE START of a larger campaign to reclaim ALL the former Soviet republics and Imperial Russian territories, including Alaska.  They have forgotten about Chamberlain's efforts to appease Hitler in 1938, and how that turned out for Europe and the U.S. after 1939. 

Ignore history and history will bite you!


I agree.. I get it, it's ok to question the amount of $$$ being sent to Ukraine, but we have to stop Russia now.


As you said, Putin wants to return Russia to it's former glory days.  As you said, they have forgotten Chamberlain's appeasement in 1938 and it bit us in the butt.  We have to draw the line now or we will face a tougher Russia when they go after the Baltics and try to take over Alaska.


Also, speaking of Alaska, I did some kind of non-scientific poll asking if should we return Alaska to Russia even if it means peace. Almost 20% said yes!
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