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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4676 on: September 08, 2024, 11:01:37 pm »
The battle of Kursk hinges on the Russian railroad

Michael Peck  |  September 8, 2024  |  5:00 AM CDT


  • Ukraine has disrupted Russia's critical railroad systems near Kursk.

  • Russia's military response depends a railroad system that's in bad shape.

  • Ukraine can solidify its hold in the Kursk region by destroying train bridges.

Ukraine's Kursk offensive has done more than seize a Los Angeles-size territory and embarrass Russia. It also appears to be disrupting Russia's railroad system. And if the US accedes to Ukrainian demands to allow deeper strikes into Russia using American-made rockets, Russia's ability to move troops and supplies could be seriously damaged.

Much more so than in Western armies, Russia depends on railroads to transport troops and supplies rather than using trucks. Russian units don't have the organic transport capacity to operate far from railheads. The problem today is that assembling forces from around Russia — some 30,000 troops, according to Ukrainian estimates — to seal off the Ukrainian penetration is overloading rail stations in the Kursk area and creating shortages of locomotives.

BelZhD, the union representing Belarusian railway workers, announced that as of August 12, Russian railway authority had asked its Belarusian counterpart not to dispatch trains to stations on the Orel-Kursk lines. This essentially severs rail links between Belarus and Russia.

"There is an accumulation of a large number of 'abandoned' trains (according to code 12 - the lack of a locomotive) at the stations of the Smolensk region of the Moscow Railway," the Belarusian union said.

"This circumstance also affects the rhythm of sending freight trains from the BZD in the direction of the Moscow Railways and leads to a violation of the schedule of traffic."

Having to reroute trains from Kursk has also created problems. The Ukrainian "breakthrough has led to a severe disruption  .  .  .

https://www.yahoo.com/news/battle-kursk-hinges-russian-railroad-100002914.html
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4677 on: September 09, 2024, 10:08:36 am »
Yep. You got it. The headline would make one think they sent cash, but the text belies that. Even so, Ukraine seems to be using the materiel effectively.

Townhall writer Sarah Arnold probably didn't want accuracy to complicate her agenda. Or maybe it was just clickbait to lure Ukraine-Haters into clicking her article.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2024, 10:10:25 am by PeteS in CA »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4678 on: September 09, 2024, 09:59:23 pm »
DAY 35 - UKRAINE'S INVASION OF RUSSIA

Russian military recruitment poster shows a Ukrainian soldier carrying a small child.  Liars!  They couldn't find a single photo of a Russian soldier doing anything humane, so they hijacked this photo of a Ukrainian soldier in Irpin instead:






And here's where the photo came from:



Trapped: The battle to escape Putin’s wrath

Kim Sengupta reports from Irpin, a prime target for Russian forces trying to encircle Kyiv, where civilians face a life-or-death struggle to escape the conflict

07 March 2022 08:54 GM



Ukrainian soldiers help a fleeing family to cross the Irpin river on the outskirts of Kyiv (AP)

The emergency packages of food and water had been delivered and the evacuation process was under way. But then, suddenly, shellfire erupted bringing with it widespread panic as people began to scramble out of the bus, which was due to take them to safety.

The civic society activists, who had come to Irpin to collect civilians, pleaded with them to get back on board, saying they would be trapped behind enemy lines otherwise. But the families, calling out to each other, with children crying and pet dogs barking, ran to a church nearby – and soon it was too late for them to escape.

The roads out of the district of Slayvo – “Radiance” – was being cut by Russian troops who had come through a wood. The Kyiv activists were now themselves desperate to get away, fearing the worst if they were to fall into Russian hands. They roared away in their cars, the bus left behind.

But within minutes, two local cars ahead of them were hit by mortar fire, forcing them into screeching U-turns. Three people, one of them a child, are reported to have been found in the burning wreckages.

The fighting was in Irpin, a town of 62,000 which sits about 20km (12 miles) to the northwest of Kyiv, which has become a prime target for Russian forces trying to encircle the Ukrainian capital. The city has been battered by prolonged missile strikes and artillery fire, with intense firefights, as Ukrainian troops try to claw back streets and districts.  .  .  .

.  .  .  Some had injuries; one limping man was being supported by his brother. He had been hit by shrapnel from what sounded like a howitzer round about 500 yards away. An ambulance was coming to the other side of the bridge, said a soldier, to take him and other casualties to hospitals back in Kyiv.

A young captain, also bandaged, around his left arm, said: “People don’t want to leave their homes, everything they have built up. But the Russian attacks are now continuous. We will have to retake the areas they have moved into, and so maybe not having too many civilians in the city now, that will mean fewer civilian casualties.”

The officer, who wanted only his first name, Mykhailo, published, continued: “We know the Russians are desperate to get control of Irpin, that is why they are putting so much resources into it. They are not doing well on the ground and that’s why we have so many airstrikes and the long-range shelling.”

Shelling intensified as dusk began to fall, and the crowd took shelter under the remaining arch. Flares went up in the sky followed by red darts of exchanged fire and flashes as buildings, closer and closer, began to get hit.


A Ukrainian soldier holds a child crossing the River Irpin (AP)

The crowd swarmed to cross, with difficulty, over the twisted metal and smashed stonework, over the water. Groups huddled together, many carrying packed plastic bags, rucksacks and suitcases, some with children on their shoulders.

An elderly woman slipped and fell. Helping her up, Andriy Osadchuk, a volunteer military radio operator, exclaimed: “Can you imagine someone having to go through all this at her age? Why are the Russians doing what they are doing? It’s barbaric.”  .  .  .

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/kyiv-escape-irpin-russia-ukraine-war-b2029736.html
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4680 on: September 09, 2024, 10:46:57 pm »
As Toronto Film Festival Opens, Worldwide Backlash Against Trofimova’s “Russians at War”—a Documentary That Sees No Russian War Crimes in Ukraine—Grows

Vlada Toporkova  |  Sep 09, 2024  |  16:19

Russian-Canadian filmmaker Anastasia Trofimova premiered her film Russians at War at the Venice Film Festival, claiming it challenges Western media’s one-sided portrayal of Russian aggression. Trofimova wants to offer a different story, and it happens to be one in which she sees no war crimes committed by Russian soldiers.


Trofimova states she “saw no signs of war crimes during her time near the front” when questioned by a Reuters journalist about whether her film whitewashes Russian troops, given the documented atrocities such as the Bucha Massacre. Meanwhile, the Ukrainian Prosecutor General has launched investigations into over 122,000 suspected war crimes since Russia’s full-scale invasion, identified 511 perpetrators, and secured 80 convictions in Ukrainian courts.

Trofimova is taking her film to the Toronto Film Festival amid massive backlash, including from the Ukrainian government.

"In Russia, they are these heroes who never die,” she told reporters. “In the West, they are mostly war criminals, war criminals, war criminals.”

Filming illegally on Ukrainian territory
Trofimova spent seven months embedded with Russian soldiers in eastern Ukraine to make the film, doing so without authorization and in violation of Ukrainian law. With over a decade of media experience, she is known for producing films for the Russian propaganda outlet RT (formerly “Russia Today”).

Trofimova insists that Russian soldiers “are not someone whose voices are heard," emphasizing that the soldiers shocked her by "how ordinary they were,” with families, humor, and “their own understanding of what's happening in this war."

She claims that the soldiers simply don’t understand the reasons behind the war. Some cite answering their country’s call; some came to defend Russia from “NATO’s expansion.” Many are fighting primarily for money.

"They start to fight because they lost someone,” Trofimova muses. “It's maybe a question of revenge.”

This isn’t the first time Russian soldiers have hidden behind a mask of innocence, avoiding the reality of having taken up arms, invading, raping, injuring, and killing the people of a neighboring country, soldiers and civilians alike. It may be shocking to see Russian soldiers being ordinary, but, perhaps, what’s more disturbing is that such heinous crimes seem to be normalized among ordinary people in Russia.  .  .  .

https://united24media.com/anti-fake/as-toronto-film-festival-opens-worldwide-backlash-against-trofimovas-russians-at-war-a-documentary-that-sees-no-russian-war-crimes-in-ukraine-grows-2206

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4681 on: September 09, 2024, 10:54:42 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4682 on: September 09, 2024, 11:03:26 pm »
The Minsk Agreements and Moscow’s False Ceasefire Promises Behind Russia’s Full-Scale Invasion of Ukraine

Anna Neplii  |  Sep 09, 2024  |  11:36

The Minsk agreements were meant to silence the guns in Ukraine’s east. Yet Moscow shattered its promise of peace the moment the ink dried—paving the way for Russia’s full-scale invasion.


Russia occupied Ukraine’s Crimea in the winter of 2014, and by spring, Russian troops and funds poured into Ukraine's east. April 12th, 2014, is considered one of the starting points in the war between Ukraine and Russia in modern history.

On that day, several dozens of heavily armed forces seized the city of Sloviansk in the Donetsk region, led by Igor Strelkov (Girkin), a retired colonel of the FSB (Russia’s Federal Security Service). The Minsk agreements were supposed to end this chaos and war, but instead, the situation only worsened, eventually escalating into full-scale war.

What is the Minsk Agreement?
The Minsk Agreement, signed in Belarus’s capital, Minsk, aimed to establish a temporary ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine amid the 2014 war driven by Russia’s hybrid warfare in Ukraine’s Donetsk and Luhansk regions.​

Since the provisions of the first protocol were not followed, a second agreement, known as Minsk II, was signed a year later, in 2015. .  .

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/the-minsk-agreements-and-moscows-false-ceasefire-promises-behind-russias-full-scale-invasion-of-ukraine-2195
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4683 on: September 10, 2024, 09:58:32 am »
from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1fcnv2s/volunteers_from_occupied_bashkortostan_have/

>80 years of denigrating Ukrainians as Nazis plus 25 years of Leninist-Stalinist suppression and starvation of Ukrainians plus an earlier ~150 years of Czarist conquest and oppression have their predictable fruit in the hearts of modern Russians.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4684 on: September 10, 2024, 10:03:46 am »
The BMP-3 has a low-muzzle-velocity 100 mm cannon, most effective against unarmored and lightly armored vehicles and emplacements.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4685 on: September 10, 2024, 10:09:27 am »
"Warm" night in Moscow:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJveWScxlRo

Whether the fire at the airport was due to debris or an actual hit remains to be seen.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4686 on: September 10, 2024, 10:37:29 am »
The BMP-3 has a low-muzzle-velocity 100 mm cannon, most effective against unarmored and lightly armored vehicles and emplacements.

The BMP-3 was the Soviets' answer to the Bradley.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4687 on: September 11, 2024, 02:30:18 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4689 on: September 11, 2024, 02:37:07 am »
More lies from the Biden White House.



Biden poised to lift ban on firing British Storm Shadow missiles into Russia

David Lammy and Antony Blinken will meet in Ukraine on Wednesday to discuss lifting restrictions as Iran arms Russia with ballistic rockets

Tony Diver, Roland Oliphant, & Ben Riley-Smith  •  10 September 2024  •  8:34pm[/size]



Joe Biden is considering changing policy on the use of long-range Storm Shadow missiles by Ukraine in Russia  Credit: Jose Luis Magana

Joe Biden is poised to lift a ban on British Storm Shadow missiles being fired into Russia by Ukraine.

The president is considering changing policy after it emerged Iran is now arming Russia with ballistic missiles, which could be used in Ukraine within weeks.

Antony Blinken, Mr Biden’s secretary of state, is due in Ukraine on Wednesday with David Lammy, the Foreign Secretary, to discuss lifting restrictions with Volodymyr Zelensky.

Mr Biden and Sir Keir Starmer would then discuss changing the policy in a White House summit on Friday  .  .  .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/10/biden-poised-lift-ban-storm-shadow-missiles-russia-ukraine/
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4694 on: September 11, 2024, 12:09:12 pm »
More lies from the Biden White House.



Biden poised to lift ban on firing British Storm Shadow missiles into Russia


That idiot is sleepwalking us into WWIII.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4695 on: September 11, 2024, 12:54:25 pm »
That idiot is sleepwalking us into WWIII.

1. "That idiot" doesn't even know what he had for breakfast.

2. Putin can't defeat Ukraine. That said you need to adjust your perceptions of Russia to fit the reality and not the propaganda they put out.

I did. At the start of the second phase of Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022 I believed the lies that the Kremlin and the media had put out about how MIGHTY RUSSIA!!! was going to steamroll Ukraine and be on the Polish border within a week.

I was really surprised and happy for the Ukrainians when at least they started killing the Russians and making the bastards pay. I still did not expect them to do much more than to fight a retreat.

Yet they started to hold their ground and then they forced the Russians to give up their 2022 gains.

At this point it is now a matter of convincing the Russian people to demand an end to the war and that won't happen so long as they think they're invincible like the assclowns on their TV keep telling them they are.

They need to see bombs going off in Moscow. They need their homes destroyed. They need their lives disrupted. They need to be the ones running for the bomb shelters.

It was all fun and games when they thought MIGHTY RUSSIA!!! was going to rebuild the Soviet Empire and run Europe again but now they see that dream is dead. What's left is to make them give up their delusions of grandeur and accept that Russia is a fallen empire that can't even defeat a neighboring third rate military power.

No, I disagree that giving Ukraine the means to cause pain in Russia is going to trigger a world war. It is the one thing that will deter it.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4696 on: September 11, 2024, 01:45:09 pm »
1. "That idiot" doesn't even know what he had for breakfast.

2. Putin can't defeat Ukraine. That said you need to adjust your perceptions of Russia to fit the reality and not the propaganda they put out.

I did. At the start of the second phase of Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022 I believed the lies that the Kremlin and the media had put out about how MIGHTY RUSSIA!!! was going to steamroll Ukraine and be on the Polish border within a week.

I was really surprised and happy for the Ukrainians when at least they started killing the Russians and making the bastards pay. I still did not expect them to do much more than to fight a retreat.

Yet they started to hold their ground and then they forced the Russians to give up their 2022 gains.

At this point it is now a matter of convincing the Russian people to demand an end to the war and that won't happen so long as they think they're invincible like the assclowns on their TV keep telling them they are.

They need to see bombs going off in Moscow. They need their homes destroyed. They need their lives disrupted. They need to be the ones running for the bomb shelters.

It was all fun and games when they thought MIGHTY RUSSIA!!! was going to rebuild the Soviet Empire and run Europe again but now they see that dream is dead. What's left is to make them give up their delusions of grandeur and accept that Russia is a fallen empire that can't even defeat a neighboring third rate military power.

No, I disagree that giving Ukraine the means to cause pain in Russia is going to trigger a world war. It is the one thing that will deter it.

Unlike Russia, Ukraine has focused its efforts against military and dual/multiple-use assets and facilities. Unlike Ukraine, Russia has freely used weapons received from Iran, China, and NoKo against military and civilian targets inside Ukraine. The US and UK need to give equivalent freedom to Ukraine to drive the Su-34s and other bombers raining bombs and missiles on Ukraine to bases farther from Ukraine and flatten Russian naval facilities in Sevastopol, Kerch, and Novorossiysk. Maybe coordinate those Storm Shadow and ATACMS strikes with drone swarm attacks against Russian SAM network sections protecting the larger targets.

As for Russian civilians, Ukraine should not misuse its weapons attacking civilians the way Russia does.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4697 on: September 11, 2024, 02:08:37 pm »
Unlike Russia, Ukraine has focused its efforts against military and dual/multiple-use assets and facilities. Unlike Ukraine, Russia has freely used weapons received from Iran, China, and NoKo against military and civilian targets inside Ukraine. The US and UK need to give equivalent freedom to Ukraine to drive the Su-34s and other bombers raining bombs and missiles on Ukraine to bases farther from Ukraine and flatten Russian naval facilities in Sevastopol, Kerch, and Novorossiysk. Maybe coordinate those Storm Shadow and ATACMS strikes with drone swarm attacks against Russian SAM network sections protecting the larger targets.

As for Russian civilians, Ukraine should not misuse its weapons attacking civilians the way Russia does.

I agree with the single exception that the Russia 1 television studio should be a target. The death of Vladimir Solovyov would go a long way to enabling an end to the war.
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« Reply #4698 on: September 11, 2024, 06:57:11 pm »
Unlike Russia, Ukraine has focused its efforts against military and dual/multiple-use assets and facilities. Unlike Ukraine, Russia has freely used weapons received from Iran, China, and NoKo against military and civilian targets inside Ukraine. The US and UK need to give equivalent freedom to Ukraine to drive the Su-34s and other bombers raining bombs and missiles on Ukraine to bases farther from Ukraine and flatten Russian naval facilities in Sevastopol, Kerch, and Novorossiysk. Maybe coordinate those Storm Shadow and ATACMS strikes with drone swarm attacks against Russian SAM network sections protecting the larger targets.

As for Russian civilians, Ukraine should not misuse its weapons attacking civilians the way Russia does.

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« Reply #4699 on: September 11, 2024, 06:57:27 pm »
That idiot is sleepwalking us into WWIII.

Hardly.