« previous next »
Pages: 1 ... 47 48 49 [50] 51 52 53 ... 101   Go Down

Author Topic: Ukraine 4  (Read 520075 times)

0 Members and 10 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline mountaineer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 62,386
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2450 on: March 07, 2024, 08:50:32 am »
An assassination attempt, and the Russians missed by 1/2 mile? Not terribly competent, are they?
Logged
"The spirit of Kukluxism will not die out so long as the Democrat party exists to sympathize with that spirit."
-- Gerrit Smith

Offline PeteS in CA

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,534
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2451 on: March 07, 2024, 10:46:31 am »
Logged
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2452 on: March 07, 2024, 11:00:14 am »
I am HOPING  that radio broadcasts asking questions like "Is your life better now that Putin has started a war with Ukraine,than it was under "No War Yeltsin" who was in charge in Russia until the Putin cabal stole the election?"

Even though generations of suffering under Soviet Rule has conditioned the typical Russian to see their rulers as their absolute masters,the generation alive today has seen and experienced what life CAN be like under truly elected leaders,and these people HAVE to be close to the boiling point with this endless and useless war that sees their sons and fathers still coming home in boxes,with no relief in sight.
Logged
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline PeteS in CA

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,534
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2453 on: March 07, 2024, 01:14:37 pm »
Quote from: Elderberry on March 07, 2024, 08:28:41 am
Zelensky’s motorcade nearly hit by Russian missile as ‘Ukraine prepares for counter-offensive’

Yahoo News by Tara Cobham 3/6/2024

Volodymyr Zelensky’s motorcade was nearly hit by a Russian missile on Wednesday as the Ukrainian President visited the Black Sea port of Odessa.

Zelensky was with Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis when the missile hit infrastructure close enough for the leaders to see the strike, with sources estimating the attack happened a mere 500 to 800 metre distance from the delegations.
...

I think it more likely that the orcs had simply "aimed" for somewhere in Kiev.
Logged
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

Offline kevindavis007

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,362
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2454 on: March 07, 2024, 03:05:36 pm »
Logged
Join The Reagan Caucus: https://reagancaucus.org/ and the Eisenhower Caucus: https://EisenhowerCaucus.org

Ronald Reagan: “Rather than...talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems and make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit…earning here they pay taxes here.”

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2455 on: March 07, 2024, 11:27:11 pm »
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2456 on: March 07, 2024, 11:39:25 pm »
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline PeteS in CA

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,534
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2457 on: March 08, 2024, 12:38:55 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on March 07, 2024, 11:27:11 pm
Russia is scraping the bottom of the barrel:

from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1b8oibe/a_destroyed_t54b_was_spotted_near_novomykhailivka/

Some context:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V3JOIn9WCs&t=385s

It looks like the orcs telegraphed their punch by mine-sweeping the route the attack would follow hours later, and the Ukrainians saw it and were ready. While a T-54 would be dead meat for a more modern tank or anti-tank missile, I'm sure infantry units would not want to face its 100 mm main gun (ditto pretty much any IFV) or its machine guns.
Logged
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2458 on: March 10, 2024, 06:24:50 pm »
Russian Advanced A-50 Spy Plane Hit in Strike on Aircraft Factory: Kyiv

Ellie Cook  |  Mar 10, 2024 at 8:57 AM EDT  |  Updated Mar 10, 2024 at 12:43 PM EDT

Ukrainian forces "destroyed or heavily damaged" one of Russia's prized but scarce A-50 spy planes, according to a Ukrainian official, after Kyiv targeted an aviation plant in southern Russia.

Russia's Defense Ministry said on Saturday that its air defenses had intercepted 47 Ukrainian drones over Russian territory overnight, including 41 over the southwestern Rostov region.

Vasily Golubev, the governor of the Rostov region, said Kyiv launched a "massive UAV (uncrewed aerial vehicle) attack" on the city of Taganrog, east of the captured Ukrainian city of Mariupol and west of Rostov-on-Don.

Russian military bloggers reported that Ukrainian drones struck a plant in the city that repaired A-50 spy planes, as well as a nearby airfield. The attack came in "several waves," influential channel Fighterbomber wrote on Saturday.  .  .

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-a50-spy-plane-ukraine-hit-taganrog-1877630
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2459 on: March 10, 2024, 06:24:57 pm »
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Online Cyber Liberty

  • Coffee! Donuts! Kittens!
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 62,359
  • Gender: Male
  • 🌵🌵🌵
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2460 on: March 10, 2024, 07:39:05 pm »
Logged
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
Castillo del Cyber Autonomous Zone ~~~~~>                          :dontfeed:

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2461 on: March 11, 2024, 12:31:43 am »
« Last Edit: March 11, 2024, 12:33:16 am by Hoodat »
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2462 on: March 11, 2024, 12:35:43 am »
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2463 on: March 11, 2024, 12:36:10 am »
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2464 on: March 11, 2024, 12:39:37 am »
Ukrainian attacks against Russian Black Sea Fleet have taken their toll:


https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1766880932407976296
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2465 on: March 11, 2024, 12:41:28 am »
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2466 on: March 11, 2024, 12:55:25 am »
Russia’s new guided bomb inflicts devastation and heavy casualties on the Ukrainian front lines

Tim Lister and Frederik Pleitgen  |  Updated 2:40 PM EDT, Sun March 10, 2024

(CNN) — Russia has begun using a powerful aerial bomb that has decimated Ukrainian defenses and tilted the balance on the front lines. It has done so by converting a basic Soviet-era weapon into a gliding bomb that can cause a crater fifteen meters wide.

The bomb is the FAB-1500, essentially a 1.5-tonne weapon of which nearly half comprises high explosives. It is delivered from above by fighter jets from a distance of some 60-70 kilometers, out of range of many Ukrainian air defenses. The FAB-1500 is another example of how Russia is fighting its war in Ukraine, inflicting massive destruction before trying to take territory.

Recent videos from the battlelines in Donetsk region have illustrated the immense power of these bombs as they have hit thermal power plants, factories and tower blocks - places from which the Ukrainians coordinate their defenses.

The FAB-1500 is directed towards its target by a guidance system and pop-out wings that allow it to glide towards its target. Joseph Trevithick, who has written about the development of the bomb for TheWarZone, says they “offer a new and far more destructive stand-off strike option for many of Russia’s tactical jets that also help pilots stay further away from enemy defenses.”  .  .  .

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/10/europe/russian-guided-bomb-ukraine-frontline-intl/index.html
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline PeteS in CA

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,534
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2467 on: March 11, 2024, 10:12:20 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 10, 2024, 07:39:05 pm
But did it survive the attack?  That would be a pretty good "get."

The current answer is that that is not known.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djow3gUUJ3k

Apparently before the strike the A-50 was brought inside the facility that was later hit. The damage visible from the outside is not extensive, but the damage inside may be significant. Why the Russians thought that repairing such valuable planes so close to Ukraine was a good idea eludes me.
Logged
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

Online Cyber Liberty

  • Coffee! Donuts! Kittens!
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 62,359
  • Gender: Male
  • 🌵🌵🌵
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2468 on: March 11, 2024, 12:56:58 pm »
Quote from: Jack Russell on March 11, 2024, 12:40:46 pm
Sure didn't do any damage to the plane next to it.  Guessing the damage was minor.

The A-50 shown a few pics above this post was moved before the bombing run...
Logged
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
Castillo del Cyber Autonomous Zone ~~~~~>                          :dontfeed:

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2469 on: March 11, 2024, 09:35:42 pm »
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline 240B

  • Lord of all things Orange!
  • TBR Advisory Committee
  • ***
  • Posts: 20,980
  • I refuse to be obstinate!
    • I try my best ...
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2470 on: March 11, 2024, 11:05:16 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on March 11, 2024, 09:35:42 pm

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1767101020885156266
In Russia, every fire that affects anything government or military related is a cigarette fire. Never fails.
Even on a Russian Naval ship or in Crimea while it is being attacked. All cigarettes.
Logged
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 62,066
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2471 on: March 11, 2024, 11:08:50 pm »
Quote from: 240B on March 11, 2024, 11:05:16 pm
In Russia, every fire that affects anything government or military related is a cigarette fire. Never fails.
Even on a Russian Naval ship or in Crimea while it is being attacked. All cigarettes.
It can happen....especially if you wrap a full matchbook around the lit cigarette.


Don't try this at home, kids! American cigarettes are treated so they go out if someone isn't actively smoking them.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2024, 11:09:47 pm by Smokin Joe »
Logged
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline 240B

  • Lord of all things Orange!
  • TBR Advisory Committee
  • ***
  • Posts: 20,980
  • I refuse to be obstinate!
    • I try my best ...
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2472 on: March 12, 2024, 07:00:34 am »

The U.S. Sun
Juliana Cruz LimaSergey Panashchuk
Mar 11 2024

CANNIBAL ARMY Grim ‘orders’ to ‘taste human flesh’ found on Russian soldier’s phone…as well as brutal torture & gang rape instructions

BARBARIC "orders" which included "tasting human flesh", brutal torture and gang rape were found on a Russian soldier's phone.

Ukrainian officials said the grim "recommendations" were sent in private Telegram messages by Russian commanders, who encouraged the atrocities.

(more)
https://www.the-sun.com/news/10684531/russian-soldier-barbaric-war-orders-human-flesh-gang-rape/
Logged
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 62,066
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2473 on: March 12, 2024, 12:08:20 pm »
I can't think of anything which would cause troops to resist an enemy like the thought that that enemy might eat them.


Logged
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline 240B

  • Lord of all things Orange!
  • TBR Advisory Committee
  • ***
  • Posts: 20,980
  • I refuse to be obstinate!
    • I try my best ...
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2474 on: March 12, 2024, 12:18:08 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on March 12, 2024, 12:08:20 pm
I can't think of anything which would cause troops to resist an enemy like the thought that that enemy might eat them.
Cannibalism seems to be making a come back across the world these days.
Logged
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

Online Cyber Liberty

  • Coffee! Donuts! Kittens!
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 62,359
  • Gender: Male
  • 🌵🌵🌵
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2475 on: March 12, 2024, 03:25:40 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on March 12, 2024, 12:08:20 pm
I can't think of anything which would cause troops to resist an enemy like the thought that that enemy might eat them.

I believe the lefty vernacular is "Oral Integration" by people giving "Cultural Enrichment."
Logged
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
Castillo del Cyber Autonomous Zone ~~~~~>                          :dontfeed:

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 62,066
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2476 on: March 12, 2024, 07:38:23 pm »
Quote from: 240B on March 12, 2024, 12:18:08 pm
Cannibalism seems to be making a come back across the world these days.
It can get worse...
Logged
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2477 on: March 12, 2024, 08:06:57 pm »
Quote from: 240B on March 12, 2024, 07:00:34 am
The U.S. Sun
Juliana Cruz LimaSergey Panashchuk
Mar 11 2024

CANNIBAL ARMY Grim ‘orders’ to ‘taste human flesh’ found on Russian soldier’s phone…as well as brutal torture & gang rape instructions

BARBARIC "orders" which included "tasting human flesh", brutal torture and gang rape were found on a Russian soldier's phone.

Ukrainian officials said the grim "recommendations" were sent in private Telegram messages by Russian commanders, who encouraged the atrocities.

(more)
https://www.the-sun.com/news/10684531/russian-soldier-barbaric-war-orders-human-flesh-gang-rape/

@240B

I ain't buying it. The bulk of Russians are Russian Orthodox.

This is anti-Russian propaganda.
Logged
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 62,066
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2478 on: March 12, 2024, 08:18:24 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on March 12, 2024, 08:06:57 pm
@240B

I ain't buying it. The bulk of Russians are Russian Orthodox.

This is anti-Russian propaganda.
One would hope...

But every time a Ukrainian faces off with a Russian, this will still be in the back of their mind.
Logged
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2479 on: March 12, 2024, 09:38:09 pm »
Russian fuel facilities hit by Ukraine drone attacks: officials

Reuters  |  March 12, 2024  |  3:18 a.m. ET

Russian fuel facilities in Oryol and Nizhny Novgorod regions were on fire on Tuesday after Ukrainian drone attacks, local governors and media said, in what appeared to be a coordinated Kyiv air operation that also targeted Moscow and other regions.

Air defense systems downed a total of 25 drones launched by Ukraine over several Russian regions, RIA state news reported, citing Russia’s defense ministry.

It was not immediately clear whether all the drones were destroyed.


There were a total of 25 launched drones that were downed by Air defense systems.
Social media/east2west news

“In the morning, the Kstovo industrial zone, a fuel and energy complex facility, was attacked by unmanned aerial vehicles,” Gleb Nikitin, governor of Nizhny Novgorod, said  .  .  .

https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/russian-fuel-facilities-in-oryol-nizhny-novgorod-hit-by-ukraine-drone-attacks-officials-say/
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2480 on: March 12, 2024, 09:43:24 pm »
Ukraine knocks out Russian refinery in major attack

Guy Faulconbridge and Lidia Kelly  |  March 12, 2024  -  6:42 PM EDT  |  Updated 3 hours ago

MOSCOW, March 12 (Reuters) - Ukraine pounded targets in Russia on Tuesday with dozens of drones and rockets in an attack that inflicted serious damage on a major oil refinery and sought to pierce the land borders of the world's biggest nuclear power with armed proxies.  .  .  .

.  .  .  Russian officials reported attacks on energy facilities, including a fire at Lukoil's (LKOH.MM), opens new tab NORSI refinery and a drone destroyed on the outskirts of the town of Kirishi, home to Russia's second-largest oil refinery.

Gleb Nikitin, governor of the Nizhny Novgorod region, said emergency services were working to put out a blaze at the NORSI refinery.
"A fuel and energy complex facility was attacked by unmanned aerial vehicles," Nikitin said on Telegram.

Industry sources told Reuters on condition of anonymity that the main crude distillation unit (AVT-6) at NORSI was damaged in the attack, which means that at least half of the refinery's production is halted. Lukoil declined to comment.

NORSI refines about 15.8 million tonnes of Russian crude a year, or 5.8% of total refined crude, according to industry sources.
It also refines about 4.9 million tonnes of gasoline, 11% of Russia's total, 6.4% of diesel fuel, 5.6% of fuel oil and 7.4% of the country's aviation fuel, according to industry sources.  .  .

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-launches-drones-oryol-fuel-facility-other-regions-russia-says-2024-03-12/
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2481 on: March 12, 2024, 10:02:26 pm »
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2482 on: March 12, 2024, 10:07:40 pm »
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Maj. Bill Martin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,077
  • Gender: Male
  • I'll make Mincemeat out of 'em"
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2483 on: March 12, 2024, 11:41:52 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on March 12, 2024, 08:06:57 pm
@240B

I ain't buying it. The bulk of Russians are Russian Orthodox.

This is anti-Russian propaganda.

Agree.  They wouldn't be stupid enough to put it in writing anyway.
Logged

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 62,066
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2484 on: March 13, 2024, 12:36:10 am »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on March 12, 2024, 11:41:52 pm
Agree.  They wouldn't be stupid enough to put it in writing anyway.
Rule 1 of propaganda: It doesn't really matter if its true, what matters is what people will believe. Failing outright belief, some measure of doubt is enough.
Logged
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline jafo2010

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,369
  • Dems-greatest existential threat to USA republic!
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2485 on: March 13, 2024, 01:48:45 am »
It is my understanding that Ukraine does NOT possess drones that have the capability of flying the distance to Moscow or St. Petersburg.  If this is true, then the attacks in Russia are false flags by Putin to get his population riled up against the Ukrainians, which I think is a viable reality.  I wouldn't trust Putin as far as I could throw his evil *ss.

At some point, if the news is true about hundreds of thousands of Russian soldier now dead in this two year war, that the population will rise up to confront their corrupt government over the loss of their sons, brothers and husbands.  Russia is very much a slave mentality society, where folks have next to zero freedom of expression or thought, but there comes a moment in time where they collectively will have had enough of the nonsense of sacrificing their child/children to the corrupt lie that has launched an unjust war on a neighboring country killing millions, and literally using the same tactic as Hitler did with Poland when he launched that war.
Logged

Online DB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,436
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2486 on: March 13, 2024, 04:38:23 pm »
Quote from: jafo2010 on March 13, 2024, 01:48:45 am
It is my understanding that Ukraine does NOT possess drones that have the capability of flying the distance to Moscow or St. Petersburg.  If this is true, then the attacks in Russia are false flags by Putin to get his population riled up against the Ukrainians, which I think is a viable reality.  I wouldn't trust Putin as far as I could throw his evil *ss.

At some point, if the news is true about hundreds of thousands of Russian soldier now dead in this two year war, that the population will rise up to confront their corrupt government over the loss of their sons, brothers and husbands.  Russia is very much a slave mentality society, where folks have next to zero freedom of expression or thought, but there comes a moment in time where they collectively will have had enough of the nonsense of sacrificing their child/children to the corrupt lie that has launched an unjust war on a neighboring country killing millions, and literally using the same tactic as Hitler did with Poland when he launched that war.

They can be transported on the ground into Russia. Russia has a very large border and the people speak the language.
Logged

Offline PeteS in CA

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,534
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2487 on: March 13, 2024, 05:49:38 pm »
Quote from: jafo2010 on March 13, 2024, 01:48:45 am
It is my understanding that Ukraine does NOT possess drones that have the capability of flying the distance to Moscow or St. Petersburg.  If this is true, then the attacks in Russia are false flags by Putin to get his population riled up against the Ukrainians, which I think is a viable reality.  I wouldn't trust Putin as far as I could throw his evil *ss.
...

That is no longer the case, https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/ukraine-produce-thousands-long-range-drones-2024-minister-says-2024-02-12/ .
Logged
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2488 on: March 13, 2024, 07:32:23 pm »
Quote from: jafo2010 on March 13, 2024, 01:48:45 am
It is my understanding that Ukraine does NOT possess drones that have the capability of flying the distance to Moscow or St. Petersburg.  If this is true, then the attacks in Russia are false flags by Putin to get his population riled up against the Ukrainians, which I think is a viable reality. 

Putin would not risk a $3 billion refinery for a false flag operation.  Blow up a school or hospital?  Yes.  But not a refinery.
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 62,066
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2489 on: March 13, 2024, 07:47:17 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on March 13, 2024, 05:49:38 pm
That is no longer the case, https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/ukraine-produce-thousands-long-range-drones-2024-minister-says-2024-02-12/ .
Quote
In contrast with Russia where drone production is dominated by the state, the vast majority of manufacturers in Ukraine are private. Fedorov said only one of the 10 companies whose drones could fly as far as the regions around Moscow or St Petersburg was a state company.

So, Ukraine is using a more capitalist model for development competition, which will advance faster than the Soviet model still employed in Russia.
Logged
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2490 on: March 13, 2024, 11:22:49 pm »
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2491 on: March 13, 2024, 11:35:46 pm »
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2492 on: March 13, 2024, 11:39:42 pm »
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline PeteS in CA

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,534
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2493 on: March 14, 2024, 09:46:13 am »
Russian refineries are successfully intercepting Ukrainian drones.
Logged
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

Offline catfish1957

  • The Conservative Carp Rapscallion of Brieferville
  • Political Researcher
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,404
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2494 on: March 14, 2024, 10:02:08 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on March 13, 2024, 11:39:42 pm
from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1bdu1ze/unidentified_flying_objects_decided_to/

???????

Spent 30+ years at plants, and spent half as Safety Health, and Environmental Manager at a plan  Watch this video....  There is an employee walking non chalantly along the periphery of an active explosion/fire at what appears to be a distillation unit.  This is the kind of unit that typically fractionates C4's through C12's.  And under high temperatures and pressures.

If you are going to fake it, at least make it plausible.  Or this is an idiot with a death wish.  Fake as shit IMO.

Logged
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

Offline PeteS in CA

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,534
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2495 on: March 14, 2024, 10:16:27 am »
It isn't obvious from the camera angle, but the fire is probably 100 yards from the dude who is walking, and there is massive structure between the dude and the fire. The Russians are not renowned for safety or being conscious of the environment, but the dude walking by is safe due to distance plus the covering structure. But don't let visually obvious realities trouble what you want to believe.
Logged
I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

Offline catfish1957

  • The Conservative Carp Rapscallion of Brieferville
  • Political Researcher
  • *****
  • Posts: 25,404
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2496 on: March 14, 2024, 10:29:33 am »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on March 14, 2024, 10:16:27 am
It isn't obvious from the camera angle, but the fire is probably 100 yards from the dude who is walking, and there is massive structure between the dude and the fire. The Russians are not renowned for safety or being conscious of the environment, but the dude walking by is safe due to distance plus the covering structure. But don't let visually obvious realities trouble what you want to believe.

???
Check the proximal pipeline.  It is shown being engulfed in flame.  Which factually shows:

1. That the fire extends to the edge of the structure.

and

2. The employee is walking in what appears to be at our near that same said structure.  WITHOUT FIRE PROTECTIOM GEAR

And don't give me the bullshit, of what I want to beleive. Plant Fire Fighters worked for me, and I was point fulcrum of our Emergency Opertions Center.  And you are saying he is safe?  What are your professional credentials to make that call? 

Still, stand my position of fake or a Darwin Award Candidate.  And from my experiences of watching people in plant emergncies the concept of self preservation precludes all.   So, still guessing "FAKE"
« Last Edit: March 14, 2024, 10:35:35 am by catfish1957 »
Logged
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,680
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2497 on: March 14, 2024, 02:57:50 pm »
The Russian refineries targeted by Ukrainian drones

March 13, 202412:31 PM CDT  |  Updated 21 hours ago

MOSCOW, March 13 (Reuters) - Ukraine struck Russian oil refineries in a second day of heavy drone attacks on Wednesday, causing a fire at Rosneft's (ROSN.MM), opens new tab biggest refinery in what President Vladimir Putin said was an attempt to disrupt a presidential election this week.
What was targeted and what do they produce?

RYAZAN
Russia's Ryazan oil refinery (C}RO7309414471), opens new tab, controlled by Rosneft, was set ablaze after a drone attack, a regional governor said on Wednesday.
The plant, with installed capacity of around 350,000 barrels per day, refines about 12.7 million metric tons of Russian crude a year (around 317,000 barrels per day), or 5.8% of total refined crude, according to industry sources.  .  .

NOVOSHAKHTINSK
The Novoshakhtinsk oil refinery in Russia's southern Rostov region suspended operations on Wednesday after downed drones fell on the site, but resumed later in the day.  .  .

NORSI
A fire broke out at Norsi, Russia's fourth largest refinery, after a Ukrainian drone attack, Russian officials said on Tuesday. It is located near the city of Nizhny Novgorod, 430 kms (270 miles) east of Moscow.  .  .

KIRISHI
The governor of the Leningrad region, Alexander Drozdenko, said on Tuesday that a Ukrainian drone had been destroyed on the outskirts of Kirishi, which is home to Surgutneftegaz's Kirishinefteorgsintez (KINEF) refinery.  The Kirishi refinery is one of the top two refineries in Russia.  .  .

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russian-refineries-targeted-by-ukrainian-drones-2024-03-13/
Logged
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."     -Ayn Rand-

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 62,066
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2498 on: March 14, 2024, 03:45:48 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on March 14, 2024, 10:29:33 am
???
Check the proximal pipeline.  It is shown being engulfed in flame.  Which factually shows:

1. That the fire extends to the edge of the structure.

and

2. The employee is walking in what appears to be at our near that same said structure.  WITHOUT FIRE PROTECTIOM GEAR

And don't give me the bullshit, of what I want to beleive. Plant Fire Fighters worked for me, and I was point fulcrum of our Emergency Opertions Center.  And you are saying he is safe?  What are your professional credentials to make that call? 

Still, stand my position of fake or a Darwin Award Candidate.  And from my experiences of watching people in plant emergncies the concept of self preservation precludes all.   So, still guessing "FAKE"
Looking at where the water is going, it looks like the effort is not to extinguish but to keep things cooled down, at least at this point. That buys time to close valves, divert feeds, and reduce pressure, unless I am mistaken. Not drawing on my oil experience (I was on drilling rigs, not in the refining end), but on my experience as a volunteer firefighter. Objective one was to keep things from getting worse, when possible. Otherwise, the plan was to back off, establish a perimeter, and let it burn out.
Logged
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33,766
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2499 on: March 14, 2024, 04:39:21 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on March 14, 2024, 09:46:13 am
Russian refineries are successfully intercepting Ukrainian drones.


@PeteS in CA

ROFLMAO!

Isn't that just another  way of saying the drones are wiping out their refineries?
Logged
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!
Pages: 1 ... 47 48 49 [50] 51 52 53 ... 101   Go Up
« previous next »