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DeSantis Pushes Toughest Immigration Crackdown in the Nation
« on: April 10, 2023, 04:42:13 pm »
DeSantis Pushes Toughest Immigration Crackdown in the Nation

 Led by Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican with presidential ambitions, the Florida Legislature is considering a sweeping package of immigration measures that would represent the toughest crackdown on illegal immigration by any state in more than a decade.

Expected to pass within weeks because Republicans have supermajorities in both chambers, the bills are part of what DeSantis describes as a response to President Joe Biden’s “open borders agenda,” which he said has allowed an uncontrolled flow of immigrants to cross into the United States from Mexico.

The bills would expose people to felony charges for sheltering, hiring and transporting immigrants who are in the country without legal permission; require hospitals to ask patients their immigration status and report to the state; invalidate out-of-state driver’s licenses issued to immigrants in the country without legal permission; and direct the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to provide assistance to federal authorities in enforcing the nation’s immigration laws.

DeSantis has separately proposed eliminating in-state college tuition for students in the country without legal permission and beneficiaries of the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, known as DACA, who were brought to the United States as young children. The tuition law was enacted by his predecessor Rick Scott, now a Republican U.S. senator, in 2014.

The new measures represent the most far-reaching state immigration legislation since 2010, when Arizona, a border state that was the nation’s busiest corridor for human smuggling at the time, passed a law that required the police to ask people they stopped for proof of immigration status if they had a reason to suspect they might be in the country illegally.

“We need to do everything in our power to protect the people of Florida from what’s going on at the border and the border crisis,” DeSantis said at a news conference on Feb. 23 during which he unveiled his proposals and spoke from a lectern emblazoned with the words “Biden’s Border Crisis.”

Backers of the new bills say they are not opposed to immigration but are trying to make sure that newcomers follow the law.

“There’s a right way and a wrong way to come here,” state Sen. Debbie Mayfield, a Republican, said during a hearing on one of the bills. “We have a process in this country. We’re not trying to hurt or harm people who are here legally.”

Critics warn the bills will sow fear, promote racial profiling and harm Florida’s economy, and the legislative push runs counter to a trend elsewhere in the country to integrate the nation’s existing population of immigrants in the country illegally, estimated at more than 10 million......................

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Re: DeSantis Pushes Toughest Immigration Crackdown in the Nation
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2023, 04:47:42 pm »
Why is he doing that?  Both Mayorkas and Brandon assure us the border is closed and under US control! *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: DeSantis Pushes Toughest Immigration Crackdown in the Nation
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2023, 06:09:18 pm »
Why is he doing that?  Both Mayorkas and Brandon assure us the border is closed and under US control! *****rollingeyes*****

Other governors need to follow his lead.
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Re: DeSantis Pushes Toughest Immigration Crackdown in the Nation
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2023, 06:25:32 pm »
A lot of that is going to be shut down by the federal courts - unfortunately - on the basis that immigration law is a federal matter that the states are not permitted to enforce.  The same thing happened to Arizona a few years back.

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Re: DeSantis Pushes Toughest Immigration Crackdown in the Nation
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2023, 06:38:55 pm »
A lot of that is going to be shut down by the federal courts - unfortunately - on the basis that immigration law is a federal matter that the states are not permitted to enforce.  The same thing happened to Arizona a few years back.

AZ had a nozzle for a GOV.  Need to ask @Cyber Liberty if Douchery even fought back.
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Re: DeSantis Pushes Toughest Immigration Crackdown in the Nation
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2023, 06:48:37 pm »
AZ had a nozzle for a GOV.  Need to ask @Cyber Liberty if Douchery even fought back.

Whether AZ fought back or not, the precedent is now established.

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Re: DeSantis Pushes Toughest Immigration Crackdown in the Nation
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2023, 07:04:56 pm »
A lot of that is going to be shut down by the federal courts - unfortunately - on the basis that immigration law is a federal matter that the states are not permitted to enforce.  The same thing happened to Arizona a few years back.

We'll see what happens.  The fact still remains that ILLEGALS that aren't being deported by the Feds are still entering Florida, so that is a matter of state's rights.
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Re: DeSantis Pushes Toughest Immigration Crackdown in the Nation
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2023, 07:12:33 pm »
We'll see what happens.  The fact still remains that ILLEGALS that aren't being deported by the Feds are still entering Florida, so that is a matter of state's rights.

Unfortunately, one of the things the states gave up when they joined the union was a significant portion of their ability to control their borders.

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Re: DeSantis Pushes Toughest Immigration Crackdown in the Nation
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2023, 09:48:03 pm »
Kamaji wrote:
"Unfortunately, one of the things the states gave up when they joined the union was a significant portion of their ability to control their borders."

Then it may be time to "revisit" the [legal] issues.

The previous case with Arizona -- did that go all the way to the Supreme Court?

If not, Florida should take the initiative.
GO FURTHER.
Start putting illegals on planes back to their countries of origin.

Of course, the DCommunist government (the feds) will intervene.
They may even go so far as to send the troops.

But you are not going to win against the DComs otherwise.

If not previously decided by The Supreme Court, push it "up there", and quickly.

I would base the argument for state action on the 10th amendment.
How does that apply?
Powers not specifically granted to the federal government fall to the states.
BUT...
What happens when the federal government abdicates from its Constitutional responsibilities?
Can the states then "step in" and promulgate enforcement?

It will be an interesting test of power.