Ted Cruz plots a 2024 bid even as he waits on Trump

[Hoodat]

Mr. 'Swamp Drainer' [sic]

Donald Trump Names RNC Chair Reince Priebus Chief of Staff

WSAZ  |  Nov. 13, 2016 at 4:54 PM EST

Donald Trump has named Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National Committee, as his White House chief of staff, NBC News has learned.

Trump's transition team confirmed the appointment.

The Republican, who is serving his third term with the RNC, was reported to be at the top of Trump's shortlist for the key White House position. That list also reportedly included Steve Bannon, Trump's controversial campaign CEO whose website, Breitbart News, has espoused anti-Semitic and nationalist views.

Instead, Bannon will serve as chief strategist and senior counselor to the president, Trump's transition team announced Sunday.

The choice of Priebus is certain to comfort establishment Republicans wary that the unpredictable candidate Trump will make a reappearance in the White House — but one that could fuel resentment among the grassroots.

Priebus earned respect from Republicans over the course of his six-year tenure as head of the RNC, proving to be a powerful fundraising force who deftly navigated the party through the internal squabbling sparked by the rise of the conservative Tea Party movement following the 2010 election.

Priebus, once Wisconsin's GOP Chairman, has close ties House Speaker Paul Ryan, also a Wisconsin Republican, and could serve as a liason to Capitol Hill who's trusted by both sides.

But the move is likely to fuel concerns among grassroots conservatives who believe Priebus moved too aggressively to consolidate power among the GOP establishment during his tenure as RNC chairman.  .  .

https://www.wsaz.com/content/news/Donald-Trump-Names-RNC-Chair-Reince-Priebus-Chief-of-Staff-401022266.html

[roamer_1]

It’s not as if there were a drain plug somewhere in the basement of the White House and all the president had to do was pull it out, and swoosh, swamp drained.

Which is why Tumpy's messianic chorus has been singing the wrong tune, all the way along.

[roamer_1]

Somehow or another,they want change without having to tolerate anything changing.

And yet, *NOTHING* has changed.

[roamer_1]

There is a drain plug called DOJ but someone lost the chain..

NOPE. It's all about the Benjamins. Dry up the money and the rest will follow.

[Sighlass]

@Sighlass

Pure spin and BullBush. I noticed that the tape was VERY carefully edited so that Little Georgie and his running mates were the ones allowed to define what Trump was saying,and Trump was cut out when he started to explain his positions.

You and the other Muddle of the Road Party People don't care about any of that,though. If spreading and supporting the leftists' positions is what it takes to get rid of Rude Orange Man,then by GAWD that is what you will do!

Denial.... The Nile .... @sneakypete   

Said there was more... Here is Trump talking about not liking silencers.... with some Trump loyalists defending it.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,363917.0.html

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,363993.msg1983703.html#msg1983703

P.S. Drop the "Orange Man" crapola... you used the term in your first posts here at TBR yourself to describe Trump (before you had a change of heart).

[sneakypete]

Denial.... The Nile .... @sneakypete   

Said there was more... Here is Trump talking about not liking silencers.... with some Trump loyalists defending it.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,363917.0.html

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,363993.msg1983703.html#msg1983703

P.S. Drop the "Orange Man" crapola... you used the term in your first posts here at TBR yourself to describe Trump (before you had a change of heart).

@Sighlass

The FIEND!

And here I was hoping Santa was going to bring me a silencer for Christmas!

You,and others like you,are just looking for something about Trump to bitch about,period.


I don't give a rabid rats ass about silencers,and honestly don't know of anyone who does.

Other than you,that is.

As for me,I have borrowed the term "Rude Orange Man" from the Miss Manners people like you who used to use that term to describe him as being unfit for office,until you found out that is one of the things most of his supporters like about him.

[Sighlass]

@Sighlass

The FIEND!

And here I was hoping Santa was going to bring me a silencer for Christmas!

You,and others like you,are just looking for something about Trump to bitch about,period.


I don't give a rabid rats ass about silencers,and honestly don't know of anyone who does.

Other than you,that is.

As for me,I have borrowed the term "Rude Orange Man" from the Miss Manners people like you who used to use that term to describe him as being unfit for office,until you found out that is one of the things most of his supporters like about him.

@sneakypete

It was you that made the request for Trump's record on gun control (to @corbe I think on this thread)... I just decided to do the legwork, to your chagrin it seems.

I am sad to see you "don't give a rats ass" about our second amendment rights... sounds like you are becoming more a FUDD (gun community term) the more you cling like a leech to Trump's behind. Could care less about this and that as long as they don't take your precious guns.

I would love to have a silencer, but I don't get a thrill down my leg to allowing the government to tax me and place me in a file to have my guns taken away with ease. It would make home defense easier (not having to put on ear protection) and would make range time far more enjoyable, not to mention hunting without scattering the herd.

If you had read the threads I linked, others here liked silencers ...

There used to be a saying thrown about in conservative circles...

First they came for the Communists (bump stocks)
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist (hated bump stocks)

Then they came for the Socialists (assault weapons)
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist (don't own that gun)

Then they came for the trade unionists (silencers)
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist (don't care for silencers)

Then they came for the Jews (NRA)
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew (because my man Trump made them a bogeyman)

Then they came for me (my guns)
And there was no one left
To speak out for me (I didn't see the slippery slope I supported)

[LMAO]

@sneakypete

It was you that made the request for Trump's record on gun control (to @corbe I think on this thread)... I just decided to do the legwork, to your chagrin it seems.

I am sad to see you "don't give a rats ass" about our second amendment rights... sounds like you are becoming more a FUDD (gun community term) the more you cling like a leech to Trump's behind. Could care less about this and that as long as they don't take your precious guns.

I would love to have a silencer, but I don't get a thrill down my leg to allowing the government to tax me and place me in a file to have my guns taken away with ease. It would make home defense easier (not having to put on ear protection) and would make range time far more enjoyable, not to mention hunting without scattering the herd.

If you had read the threads I linked, others here liked silencers ...

There used to be a saying thrown about in conservative circles...

First they came for the Communists (bump stocks)
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist (hated bump stocks)

Then they came for the Socialists (assault weapons)
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist (don't own that gun)

Then they came for the trade unionists (silencers)
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist (don't care for silencers)

Then they came for the Jews (NRA)
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew (because my man Trump made them a bogeyman)

Then they came for me (my guns)
And there was no one left
To speak out for me (I didn't see the slippery slope I supported)

Good post. Like with spending, it’s incredible what some here will tolerate as long as it’s  Trump. When Trump said something to the effect of he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th ave and his loyalists would still back him, he wasn’t exaggerating as we see

I have no desire to own a so called assault weapon or a silencer but I have no problem with someone else owning one as long as they’re not a threat to others

What’s a FUDD?

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

It was you that made the request for Trump's record on gun control (to @corbe I think on this thread)... I just decided to do the legwork, to your chagrin it seems.

I am sad to see you "don't give a rats ass" about our second amendment rights... sounds like you are becoming more a FUDD (gun community term) the more you cling like a leech to Trump's behind. Could care less about this and that as long as they don't take your precious guns.

Awww,you poor baybay!

I think we should have a Pity Party here for people like you who want to adopt the "professional victum pose" as a sincere 2nd Amendment supporter,instead of a Republican weasel who will say and do anything you can do to try to keep Rude Orange Man out of office.

I would love to have a silencer,

Why? Since you seem to be such a gun expert,why not tell us all what they are good for and why YOU want one?

but I don't get a thrill down my leg to allowing the government to tax me and place me in a file to have my guns taken away with ease.

Uh,huh. Wanted a silence your entire life,haven't you,but it was just recently you discoved this  life-long desire to possess one,huh?

It would make home defense easier (not having to put on ear protection) and would make range time far more enjoyable, not to mention hunting without scattering the herd.

You have obviously never exchanged gun shots with anyone,and I am beginning to suspect you have never even shot a gun. I have been going to gun ranges my entire life,and have yet to see a herd at one.

If you had read the threads I linked, others here liked silencers ...

Yeah,other RINO's who have suddenly discovered their love of something they  have never seen or ever used.

There used to be a saying thrown about in conservative circles...

First they came for the Communists (bump stocks)
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist (hated bump stocks)

Then they came for the Socialists (assault weapons)
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist (don't own that gun)

Then they came for the trade unionists (silencers)
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist (don't care for silencers)

Then they came for the Jews (NRA)
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew (because my man Trump made them a bogeyman)

Then they came for me (my guns)
And there was no one left
To speak out for me (I didn't see the slippery slope I supported)

You now so desperate to hide your hatred for Trump and justify it that you have to repeat something you don't even understand,and even THEN have to modify it to include useless crap like bump stocks and silencers?

I don't know why I am surprised. You Anti-Trump Republican "Party People" HAVE to be weasels,just to get through the day.

[sneakypete]

Good post. Like with spending, it’s incredible what some here will tolerate as long as it’s  Trump.

More correctly,it is incredible the lies and exaggerations some people will and even believe themselves in order to be a "Good Comrade" and protect the party from Rude Orange Man.

When Trump said something to the effect of he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th ave and his loyalists would still back him, he wasn’t exaggerating as we see

And THAT is a DIRECT QUOTE from Trump,is it? Un,huh.

What is Santa bringing you for Christmas this year,a jet-powered unicorn that eats pollution?

I have no desire to own a so called assault weapon or a silencer

There is nothing wrong with owning a so-called assault weapon,but silencers are a different story. For most Americans,they are probably associated with "mob hits" more than anything else,and for people who have actually used them know they affect accurracy,require reduced loads to last longer than a few shots (which affects the function of semi-auto and auto-weapons),and in FACT create dangerous situations because others in the area of the person firing the silenced weapon  need to know there is someone else around them firing a weapon for everyone's safety.

Hell,I even had one for the M3 you see associated with my posts,but never used it. The prime reason I had a M3 for special missions like POW snatches was because unlike the  9mm Stens and Swedish K's most guys had,I didn't have to fire sub-sonic loads in the  M3 because issue GI Ball ammo in 45ACP is already subsonic.


AND.......,it is "falling off a log easy" to create a "one shot silencer" for most handguns using readily available items that are NOT restricted to permit holders. Assuming of course that you want a silencer in order to murder someone and try to  get away unnoticed.

BUT....,none of this matters because you anti-Trumpers don't give a damn about silencers or anything else other  than keeping "Rude Orange Man" out of office at any cost.

but I have no problem with someone else owning one as long as they’re not a threat to others

What’s a FUDD?

[LMAO]

More correctly,it is incredible the lies and exaggerations some people will and even believe themselves in order to be a "Good Comrade" and protect the party from Rude Orange Man.

When Trump said something to the effect of he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th ave and his loyalists would still back him, he wasn’t exaggerating as we see

And THAT is a DIRECT QUOTE from Trump,is it? Un,huh.

What is Santa bringing you for Christmas this year,a jet-powered unicorn that eats pollution?

There is nothing wrong with owning a so-called assault weapon,but silencers are a different story. For most Americans,they are probably associated with "mob hits" more than anything else,and for people who have actually used them know they affect accurracy,require reduced loads to last longer than a few shots (which affects the function of semi-auto and auto-weapons),and in FACT create dangerous situations because others in the area of the person firing the silenced weapon  need to know there is someone else around them firing a weapon for everyone's safety.

Hell,I even had one for the M3 you see associated with my posts,but never used it. The prime reason I had a M3 for special missions like POW snatches was because unlike the  9mm Stens and Swedish K's most guys had,I didn't have to fire sub-sonic loads in the  M3 because issue GI Ball ammo in 45ACP is already subsonic.


AND.......,it is "falling off a log easy" to create a "one shot silencer" for most handguns using readily available items that are NOT restricted to permit holders. Assuming of course that you want a silencer in order to murder someone and try to  get away unnoticed.

BUT....,none of this matters because you anti-Trumpers don't give a damn about silencers or anything else other  than keeping "Rude Orange Man" out of office at any cost.

but I have no problem with someone else owning one as long as they’re not a threat to others

What’s a FUDD?

Not that this is going to make any difference with you, but for the sake of others who don’t know that Donald Trump made the statement, I’m gonna post this

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna502911

I’m sure that you’re going to try to do some Trumpsplaining, Or tell us it was taken out of context, or, failing both, scream “orange man bad,” but here’s the man in his own words

One of the most awesome aspects of the human mind is our ability to block off anything that’s uncomfortable to us. You can show people numbers, facts, somebody in their own words… and they still will deny

I have a sister-in-law who railed against those Covington kids for harassing that Indian that, even after she was shown the video completely disputing that claim, still cannot give up that narrative. How do people do that?

You first started out by telling people that they’re lying about Donald Trump’s positions on items like bump stocks and silencers. Then, when somebody shows you the man in his own words, you claimed they were taken out of context. Then when you could no longer deny the facts , you adopted Donald Trump’s position. Then you resorted to name-calling. It’s both comical and tragic

[mountaineer]

Wait, this thread isn't about Cruz? 

[sneakypete]

Wait, this thread isn't about Cruz? 

@mountaineer

Don't you know? ALL political threads are about "Rude Orange Man".

The Cruz fanatics know they don't have a chance unless they can destroy Trump first.

Not that their efforts mean anything because all Cruz is really doing is collecting money he can buy influence with. He is not going to run.

[DCPatriot]

@mountaineer

Don't you know? ALL political threads are about "Rude Orange Man".

The Cruz fanatics know they don't have a chance unless they can destroy Trump first.

Not that their efforts mean anything because all Cruz is really doing is collecting money he can buy influence with. He is not going to run.

@sneakypete

Instinctively...find myself agreeing with you, EXCEPT

Far as I'm concerned, landing a man on the moon in 1969??  Bush league compared to what the United States is facing right now.

Certain times call for Great Men to command.

Looking back two years, it's obvious how much of a difference in the world just ONE MAN can make.

[catfish1957]

Wait, this thread isn't about Cruz? 

[EdinVA]

Wait, this thread isn't about Cruz? 

Just hitch up your seat belt and hang on... 

[Cyber Liberty]

Wait, this thread isn't about Cruz? 

Any thread with the word "Cruz" in the title eventually becomes a new front in the Trump Wars.  Usually in less than 50 posts.

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

Instinctively...find myself agreeing with you, EXCEPT

Far as I'm concerned, landing a man on the moon in 1969??  Bush league compared to what the United States is facing right now.

Certain times call for Great Men to command.

Looking back two years, it's obvious how much of a difference in the world just ONE MAN can make.

@DCPatriot

I agree,but for some reason unknown to me,Cruz seems to be satisified with the position he holds now,and in MY opinion,if he had higher ambitions he would have already gone after them.

Instead,he seems to like playing the role of "engaged,but never married" politically.

In some respects this is a shame because he is MAYBE/PROBABLY the smartest US Senator,but if he doesn't really want it,he doesn't really want it.

[catfish1957]

Any thread with the word "Cruz" in the title eventually becomes a new front in the Trump Wars.  Usually in less than 50 posts.

Yep, its the ultimate TBR clickbait.  Or post a thead even remotely critical of DJT?  Watch for about 10 here who are like trained attack dogs.
Comically predictable sometimes.

[LMAO]

Wait, this thread isn't about Cruz? 

Cruz specifically but also the 2024 election and Cruz is just one candidate that is considering throwing his hat in the ring.

So it’s fair to not only critique him but also anybody else  whose considering running in 2024

My personal opinion of Ted Cruz is that he’s a smart guy but senators don’t generally make good presidents and he’s better off staying in the Senate.

I still predict that the 2024 republican nominee and next president will be one of these governors

[LMAO]

Yep, its the ultimate TBR clickbait.  Or post a thead even remotely critical of DJT?  Watch for about 10 here who are like trained attack dogs.
Comically predictable sometimes.

I suspect there will be more than two Republicans that will throw their hat in the ring in 2024. And each candidate needs to be and should be evaluated. The good, the bad, and the ugly.

And that’s every candidate whether some like it or not

The big issue facing us is the size of the government and also the out of control spending and debt

[catfish1957]

I suspect there will be more than two Republicans that will throw their hat in the ring in 2024. And each candidate needs to be and should be evaluated. The good, the bad, and the ugly.

And that’s every candidate whether some like it or not

The big issue facing us is the size of the government and also the out of control spending and debt

I am thinking if DJT runs, he'll be unopposed on the conservative wing, and just swat a few nasty gnats like Liz Cheney, and few other swamp complict RINO bastards.

[corbe]

I am thinking if DJT runs, he'll be unopposed on the conservative wing, and just swat a few nasty gnats like Liz Cheney, and few other swamp complict RINO bastards.

   I would think that too @catfish1957
   In spite of this article, Cruz ain't stupid enough to relive that 2016 NY bravdo $hit again. 
   DeSantis ain't stupid enough to squander his political capital by hitching up for the Trump Show, Season 2, either.   

[libertybele]

@mountaineer

Don't you know? ALL political threads are about "Rude Orange Man".

The Cruz fanatics know they don't have a chance unless they can destroy Trump first.

Not that their efforts mean anything because all Cruz is really doing is collecting money he can buy influence with. He is not going to run.

Oh for crying out loud @sneakypete .  No one is out to destroy your "Rude Orange Man" (your words not mine).

Cruz is gathering his war chest should Trump be unable to run and has commented several times he's not going to run against Trump.(He's also collecting $$ for his Senate race). I believe Cruz will be the first one to jump in and help campaign for him. He's stood behind Trump throughout his presidency and stuck his neck out for him on J6.

[libertybele]

   I would think that too @catfish1957
   In spite of this article, Cruz ain't stupid enough to relive that 2016 NY bravdo $hit again. 
   DeSantis ain't stupid enough to squander his political capital by hitching up for the Trump Show, Season 2, either.

Trump would be wise to select either DeSantis or Cruz as his running mate.  I think Trump has indicated several times he's decided to run, but right now the leftists have him tied up in legal crappola. 

We'll see what happens in the mid terms. IF the GOP loses the House and /or Senate it's game over anyways.