BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago

[Hoodat]

It is up to each State to decide how its electors are chosen.  The problem here is that a number of States violated their own election laws.  That should have been handled at the State level, and short of that, it should be settled by the fourth branch of government.

Here in Georgia, both State and County officials violated State Law.  And sadly, the State GOP did not lift a finger to stop it.  No lawsuits.  No injunctions.  Nothing.  Not a damn thing.

[Sighlass]

Just gonna drop this here.... memory lane kinda thing...

[sneakypete]

Just gonna drop this here.... memory lane kinda thing...

@Sighlass

No,in fact,I don't.

BTW,your link doesn't work.

[roamer_1]

I'm sorry my friend but you are just flat out wrong on this one! @roamer_1

@Bigun

I know we've gone around about this before... But I am loathe to attack state sovereignty... The precedent you seek could offer fertile means for liberal states to gang up and coerce individual states with any number of grievances.

In that, I think sovereignty remaining sacrosanct is far more important than any immediate gain.

[roamer_1]

It is up to each State to decide how its electors are chosen.  The problem here is that a number of States violated their own election laws.  That should have been handled at the State level, and short of that, it should be settled by the fourth branch of government.

Here in Georgia, both State and County officials violated State Law.  And sadly, the State GOP did not lift a finger to stop it.  No lawsuits.  No injunctions.  Nothing.  Not a damn thing.

In my opinion, it is within the reach of the People to provide the remedy. And it should be that they remain the only authority over their own representatives.

The loss and shenanigans should be enough for a transmission of will by the People in the next available election. It is the apathy of the people of Georgia that would allow it to remain.

[LMAO]

Just gonna drop this here.... memory lane kinda thing...

Yes he did

[mystery-ak]

Michael Cohen on FBI Raid: Gleeful ‘Narcissistic Sociopath’ Trump Got ‘Karma Boomerang’

Former Donald Trump attorney Michael Cohen said Tuesday on MSNBC’s “The Beat” that he was gleeful because “narcissistic sociopath” Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home in Palm Beach, FL was raided by the FBI.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/08/09/michael-cohen-on-fbi-raid-gleeful-narcissistic-sociopath-trump-got-karma-boomerang/

[Kamaji]

Michael Cohen on FBI Raid: Gleeful ‘Narcissistic Sociopath’ Trump Got ‘Karma Boomerang’

Former Donald Trump attorney Michael Cohen said Tuesday on MSNBC’s “The Beat” that he was gleeful because “narcissistic sociopath” Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home in Palm Beach, FL was raided by the FBI.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/08/09/michael-cohen-on-fbi-raid-gleeful-narcissistic-sociopath-trump-got-karma-boomerang/

Cohen is delusional; he's been drinking too much of his own kool-aid.

[LMAO]

We live in an upside down world where we get a stronger statement against what the FBI did from a democrat, Andrew Cuomo, than the Republican “leadership” in Congressi

[mystery-ak]

 August 9, 2022 7:33pm EDT
FBI would not let Trump attorneys in rooms as agents raided Mar-a-Lago, warrant focused on NARA: source
'There is no need for any of this,' a source told Fox News

By Brooke Singman | Fox News

    FBI agents would not allow Trump lawyers watch as they raided former President Trump’s private home at Mar-a-Lago early Monday morning, a source told Fox News.

Trump was in New York City while his home in Palm Beach, Florida, was raided.

A source familiar with the raid told Fox News the warrant for the raid was related to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) effort to collect records and materials the former president took with him from Washington, D.C., to Mar-a-Lago.

"This was a NARA issue," the source close to the former president told Fox News, adding Trump has been "cooperating."

"There is no need for any of this," the source said, adding the FBI "wouldn’t let the attorneys come in to watch the raid. They told them to leave."

The source told Fox News that when NARA visited Mar-a-Lago in February, Trump and his team "gave them what they wanted."

"It was all provided to them," the source said. "This is absurd."

Another source told Fox News negotiations and communications "never broke down."

Earlier this year, NARA said Trump took 15 boxes of presidential records to his personal residence in Florida. Those boxes allegedly contained "classified national security information" and official correspondence between Trump and foreign heads of state.

NARA notified Congress in February that the agency recovered the 15 boxes from Mar-a-Lago and "identified items marked as classified national security information within the boxes."

more
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-would-not-let-trump-attorneys-agents-raided-mar-a-lago-warrant-nara

[mystery-ak]

[mystery-ak]

August 9, 2022 11:01pm EDT
Rep. Eric Swalwell: Republicans ‘fomenting violence,’ ‘chaos’ in wake of FBI’s Trump raid
Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida was raided by the FBI on Monday
By Alexander Hall | Fox News

   https://www.foxnews.com/media/rep-eric-swalwell-republicans-fomenting-violence-chaos-wake-fbis-trump-raid

[mystery-ak]

Jesse Watters on Mar-a-Lago raid; ‘How do we know they’re not planting evidence right now?’

[IsailedawayfromFR]

@Bigun

I know we've gone around about this before... But I am loathe to attack state sovereignty... The precedent you seek could offer fertile means for liberal states to gang up and coerce individual states with any number of grievances.

In that, I think sovereignty remaining sacrosanct is far more important than any immediate gain.

State sovereignty in federal elections is not absolute as it most decidedly affects other states.

Or does the US Constitution mean nothing to you?

So quit the union if you do not like the gang approach.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

We live in an upside down world where we get a stronger statement against what the FBI did from a democrat, Andrew Cuomo, than the Republican “leadership” in Congressi

That's exactly what I told my Senator John Cornyn

[IsailedawayfromFR]

August 9, 2022 11:01pm EDT
Rep. Eric Swalwell: Republicans ‘fomenting violence,’ ‘chaos’ in wake of FBI’s Trump raid
Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida was raided by the FBI on Monday
By Alexander Hall | Fox News

   https://www.foxnews.com/media/rep-eric-swalwell-republicans-fomenting-violence-chaos-wake-fbis-trump-raid

This is how one gets branded an 'insurrectionist', by not toeing the government line.

[mystery-ak]

Trump Attorneys Spill the Beans on Issues With FBI Raid, Warrant
By Nick Arama | Aug 09, 2022 10:30 PM ET

The attorneys for President Donald Trump are now spilling the beans on some of the issues with the FBI raid of his home and the search warrant.

Trump attorney Alina Habba appeared on Fox News with Jesse Watters. She said that they had been cooperating with the National Archives over the records and that this was completely “unconstitutional.” “Our country should be terrified—I am terrified,” Habba exclaimed. She said the FBI went in when he wasn’t even there, and then told his attorneys to leave, that they couldn’t watch or be there. “That doesn’t sound good to me,” she declared.

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1557144814214316038

more
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/08/09/trump-attorneys-spill-the-beans-on-issues-with-fbi-raid-warrant-n609827

[Bigun]

@Bigun

I know we've gone around about this before... But I am loathe to attack state sovereignty... The precedent you seek could offer fertile means for liberal states to gang up and coerce individual states with any number of grievances.

In that, I think sovereignty remaining sacrosanct is far more important than any immediate gain.

No one is attacking state sovereignty least of all Texas! That lawsuit was about Pennsylvania's violations of the FEDERAL constitution (can't change the rules in the middle of the game) and SCOTUS had original jurisdiction! @roamer_1

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Shower thought:

This is sorta genius on Trump's part. If they did go in on these meaningless documents, he gets his name in the headlines for 2 years into a predecessor's presidency, probably a slap on the wrist penalty, his supporters fired up to vote for him, and he looks sympathetic. I mean, imagine any other 1 term president (Jimmy Carter or Papa Bush) still getting this much press 2 years into their predecessor's presidency's?

I mean i usually don't like these "Trump is playing 4 dimensional chess" arguments, but this one checks out IMO.

[Kamaji]

Shower thought:

This is sorta genius on Trump's part. If they did go in on these meaningless documents, he gets his name in the headlines for 2 years into a predecessor's presidency, probably a slap on the wrist penalty, his supporters fired up to vote for him, and he looks sympathetic. I mean, imagine any other 1 term president (Jimmy Carter or Papa Bush) still getting this much press 2 years into their predecessor's presidency's?

I mean i usually don't like these "Trump is playing 4 dimensional chess" arguments, but this one checks out IMO.

Interesting thought.

[catfish1957]

Shower thought:

This is sorta genius on Trump's part. If they did go in on these meaningless documents, he gets his name in the headlines for 2 years into a predecessor's presidency, probably a slap on the wrist penalty, his supporters fired up to vote for him, and he looks sympathetic. I mean, imagine any other 1 term president (Jimmy Carter or Papa Bush) still getting this much press 2 years into their predecessor's presidency's?

I mean i usually don't like these "Trump is playing 4 dimensional chess" arguments, but this one checks out IMO.

I heard one talking head speculate that this event is somewhat of a "Hail Mary" to nail DJT on a Archivial Records infraction, which supposedly, by technicality could disqualify him from seeking national office.

If this is this the case, this is wanton desperation on the behalf of his enemies.

[sneakypete]

Michael Cohen on FBI Raid: Gleeful ‘Narcissistic Sociopath’ Trump Got ‘Karma Boomerang’

Former Donald Trump attorney Michael Cohen said Tuesday on MSNBC’s “The Beat” that he was gleeful because “narcissistic sociopath” Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home in Palm Beach, FL was raided by the FBI.

 

@mystery-ak

Anybody else here see the irony of ANY DC parasite lawyer calling ANYBODY else ,never mind it being Cohen,a "narcissistic sociopath"?

[Hoodat]

Shower thought:

So you talk to yourself in the shower too?

[sneakypete]

We live in an upside down world where we get a stronger statement against what the FBI did from a democrat, Andrew Cuomo, than the Republican “leadership” in Congressi

@LMAO

The GOP "Good Old Boys Club" hate and fear Trump upsetting their apple carts as much as their Dim brother in graft hate and fear him. And for the same reasons,namely he will destroy business as usual for them,and cost them millions in lost graft. Not to mention their power and positions as "princes of the court".

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

So you talk to yourself in the shower too?

I do.

[sneakypete]

August 9, 2022 7:33pm EDT
FBI would not let Trump attorneys in rooms as agents raided Mar-a-Lago, warrant focused on NARA: source
'There is no need for any of this,' a source told Fox News

By Brooke Singman | Fox News

    FBI agents would not allow Trump lawyers watch as they raided former President Trump’s private home at Mar-a-Lago early Monday morning, a source told Fox News.

 

@mystery-ak

That can't possibly be legal.

[Hoodat]

@mystery-ak

That can't possibly be legal.

It's not.  A person has a right to an attorney.  That attorney is their legal representative.  If Trump had been home at the time, he would have been allowed to remain inside the residence during the search.  Likewise, so would his legal representatives.  The fact that they did not should by itself disqualify any evidence gathered, and should leave the FBI vulnerable to a civil suit.

[Right_in_Virginia]

No one is attacking state sovereignty least of all Texas! That lawsuit was about Pennsylvania's violations of the FEDERAL constitution ( and SCOTUS had original jurisdiction! @roamer_1

Lawsuit:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163322/20201210115500103_2020-12-10%20-%20Motion%20to%20Intervene%20and%20Proposed%20Bill%20of%20Complaint%20-%20Final%20With%20Tables.pdf

Absolutely correct @Bigun !!

@roamer_1

[Bigun]

@mystery-ak

That can't possibly be legal.

It's a gross violation of Trump's rights!

[catfish1957]

It's a gross violation of Trump's rights!

Rights?

That term will be a relic of the past in no time.

[sneakypete]

Rights?

That term will be a relic of the past in no time.

@catfish1957

Not true!

We will have all the rights our masters are willing to allow us.

[Right_in_Virginia]

They rummaged through Melania's clothing. Weirdos.

[bilo]

It's not.  A person has a right to an attorney.  That attorney is their legal representative.  If Trump had been home at the time, he would have been allowed to remain inside the residence during the search.  Likewise, so would his legal representatives.  The fact that they did not should by itself disqualify any evidence gathered, and should leave the FBI vulnerable to a civil suit.

Any "evidence" is questionable. How do we know it's not planted? In addition to not allowing Trump's legal representatives to watch the search they turned off all interior cameras.

[sneakypete]

@Right_in_Virginia

Nothing more than following in the tradition of their founding father,J for Janet,Edgar Hoover.

[mystery-ak]

Tom Fitton
@TomFitton
·
1h
REPORTS: At least three Garland DOJ lawyers joined the FBI on their armed raid on the home of Trump.

[mystery-ak]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1557338804284964866

[Cyber Liberty]

August 9, 2022 11:01pm EDT
Rep. Eric Swalwell: Republicans ‘fomenting violence,’ ‘chaos’ in wake of FBI’s Trump raid
Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida was raided by the FBI on Monday
By Alexander Hall | Fox News

   https://www.foxnews.com/media/rep-eric-swalwell-republicans-fomenting-violence-chaos-wake-fbis-trump-raid

I'll never forget the way Trump supporters went on a wild looting and arson spree yesterday, murdering cops all along the way.

Oh, wait....

[Cyber Liberty]

If Trump had been home at the time, he would have been allowed to remain inside the residence during the search.

I don't think that sentence is true.  Cops ALWAYS remove the suspect from the premises during a search.

[Kamaji]

I'll never forget the way Trump supporters went on a wild looting and arson spree yesterday, murdering cops all along the way.

Oh, wait....

Exactly.

[Hoodat]

I don't think that sentence is true.  Cops ALWAYS remove the suspect from the premises during a search.

Nope.  I have known several people who had cops kick down their doors with warrants, and each and every time without exception, the person was made to sit in the living room while the search took place.  It is only in an instance where the person chooses to interfere with the search that they will be removed from the premise.

[Cyber Liberty]

Nope.  I have known several people who had cops kick down their doors with warrants, and each and every time without exception, the person was made to sit in the living room while the search took place.  It is only in an instance where the person chooses to interfere with the search that they will be removed from the premise.

I have no personal experience (so far).

[Hoodat]

I have no personal experience (so far).

You should get out more.

[Kamaji]

Nope.  I have known several people who had cops kick down their doors with warrants, and each and every time without exception, the person was made to sit in the living room while the search took place.  It is only in an instance where the person chooses to interfere with the search that they will be removed from the premise.

That may be more a matter of strategy by the police.  I don't believe that one has the right to be present in one's home when a search warrant is executed.  That being said, I believe that in many instances the cops want the person present so that, for example, they can arrest that person if what they named in the warrant is found in the house.  If one is good at reading body language, it can also be useful to have the owner present to read his/her "tells" about whether the searchers are getting near to the contraband being searched for.

[mystery-ak]

Eric Trump tells DailyMail.com what REALLY happened in FBI raid: President's son says 30 agents REFUSED to hand over warrant, kicked lawyer off property, rifled through clothes - and how Mar-a-Lago staff refused to turn off security cameras

    Eric Trump recounted the Monday raid of his father's Mar-a-Lago residence in an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com
    He said that they kicked Donald Trump's lawyer Christina Bobb off the property and made her wait at the end of a driveway during the raid
    Also said that FBI agents refused to provide a copy of the search warrant
    The former president's son said contrary to FBI direction, they refused to turn off security cameras at the Palm Beach estate

By Katelyn Caralle, U.S. Political Reporter For Dailymail.com

Published: 10:11 EDT, 10 August 2022 | Updated: 11:14 EDT, 10 August 2022

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11099205/Eric-Trump-reveals-REALLY-happened-FBI-raid.html

[catfish1957]

Tom Fitton
@TomFitton
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1h
REPORTS: At least three Garland DOJ lawyers joined the FBI on their armed raid on the home of Trump.

So Biden still claims he was left in the dark?  Amazing.

[catfish1957]

You should get out more.

Before it is all over, I think anyone with poliical leanings right of center can expect some unwanted attention.......

[Cyber Liberty]

You should get out more.

Yeah.  I suspect I'll get a first-hand account in the next two years of Shortbus Joe's regime. 

[Hoodat]

That may be more a matter of strategy by the police.  I don't believe that one has the right to be present in one's home when a search warrant is executed.

The right of the people to be secure in their houses shall not be violated.

[Kamaji]

Eric Trump tells DailyMail.com what REALLY happened in FBI raid: President's son says 30 agents REFUSED to hand over warrant, kicked lawyer off property, rifled through clothes - and how Mar-a-Lago staff refused to turn off security cameras

    Eric Trump recounted the Monday raid of his father's Mar-a-Lago residence in an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com
    He said that they kicked Donald Trump's lawyer Christina Bobb off the property and made her wait at the end of a driveway during the raid
    Also said that FBI agents refused to provide a copy of the search warrant
    The former president's son said contrary to FBI direction, they refused to turn off security cameras at the Palm Beach estate

By Katelyn Caralle, U.S. Political Reporter For Dailymail.com

Published: 10:11 EDT, 10 August 2022 | Updated: 11:14 EDT, 10 August 2022

more
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11099205/Eric-Trump-reveals-REALLY-happened-FBI-raid.html

One wonders what the security cameras show.

[catfish1957]

The right of the people to be secure in their houses shall not be violated.

LMAO.....

That was the old days......