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Offline Kamaji

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Here's a Three-Word Policy That's Been Effective in Stopping School Shootings

Matt Vespa
May 25, 2022

The border city of Uvalde, Texas is mourning. Salvador Ramos, 18, shot and killed 19 fourth-grade students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School. They were all in one classroom. It’s a heinous crime. It’s a Sandy Hook-like situation. Ramos shot his grandmother before this rampage. The grandmother is said to have survived. We’re going to hear an earful about gun control, so-called assault weapons bans, and other anti-gun talking points from Democrats. And the result will always be the same—Americans will not torch their rights to appease a political class lusting for more power and control, especially after the COVID lockdown fiasco. NONE of the COVID protocols were effective. The lockdowns did next to nothing to reduce the mortality rate. The one policy that has been effective is having police officers at schools.

School resource officers is not a new policy. Sandy Hook adopted it after Adam Lanza’s equally evil shooting in Newtown back in 2012. It’s backed by the National Rifle Association. It has a proven track record. For years, we’ve had stories of these brave officers stopping would-be school shooters. Does it stop all of them? No, some manage to pop off a few shots but the level of carnage is not catastrophic when SROs are present.

In 2018, a school shooting in Ocala, Florida was limited to only one student being injured thanks to a school resource officer (via CBS News):

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Source:  https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/05/25/one-policy-that-seems-to-work-when-it-comes-to-protecting-our-schools-n2607781?utm_campaign=rightrailsticky2

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School Resource Officer could stop the killing?

Not in this case, as the killer boldly went past him to gain access to the building, and the guard did nothing for up to an hour while the killer was butchering the kids inside other than to cringe while calling more competent officers.

Hell, he made up the lame excuse he did not have a key to the classroom rather than to simply break down the door to save the poor kids from being slaughtered.  His inaction cost many lives.

The lesson learned here, as well as at Parkland Florida, is a determined killer can continue to kill and we cannot depend upon armed security guards to stop them as some are just incompetent or plain cowards.

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School Resource Officer could stop the killing?

Not in this case, as the killer boldly went past him to gain access to the building, and the guard did nothing for up to an hour while the killer was butchering the kids inside other than to cringe while calling more competent officers.

Hell, he made up the lame excuse he did not have a key to the classroom rather than to simply break down the door to save the poor kids from being slaughtered.  His inaction cost many lives.

The lesson learned here, as well as at Parkland Florida, is a determined killer can continue to kill and we cannot depend upon armed security guards to stop them as some are just incompetent or plain cowards.




Well, if one puts some untrained, half-a$$ed momma's boy in as SRO, then of course, they won't prove effective.  The point is to have effective, trained, SROs.  The article itself lists quite a number of instances where a SRO has stopped a shooting, or prevented it from becoming a mass shooting.

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School campuses need to be secured as if they were Fort Knox.

Maybe teachers should be allowed to arm themselves.  They'll fight to the death to save children, unlike rent-a-cops.

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School campuses need to be secured as if they were Fort Knox.

Maybe teachers should be allowed to arm themselves.  They'll fight to the death to save children, unlike rent-a-cops.



What about the groomers?

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It's up to responsible parents, faculty, and administration to expel the groomers from school.

In many instances of systematic child sexual abuse, early complaints were ignored; manadtory reporters didn't report incidents; law enforcement was reluctant or slow to act; prosectutors pled the case out or failed to prosecute; administrators swept complaints under the carpet or transfered the offender to become another administrator's problem.  In all instances, adults failed in their responsibility to keep children safe.

Conspiracies of silence need to be outted and confronted.

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It's up to responsible parents, faculty, and administration to expel the groomers from school.

In many instances of systematic child sexual abuse, early complaints were ignored; manadtory reporters didn't report incidents; law enforcement was reluctant or slow to act; prosectutors pled the case out or failed to prosecute; administrators swept complaints under the carpet or transfered the offender to become another administrator's problem.  In all instances, adults failed in their responsibility to keep children safe.

Conspiracies of silence need to be outted and confronted.




I agree, but since groomers are such a problem in schools currently, I wouldn't not think that all teachers could be trusted to save the children first - and be armed for that purpose - as a blanket statement.

A properly trained, equipped (i.e., armed) guard, stationed at the sole publicly-accessible entryway to the school, is a much better way of securing a school.

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Well, if one puts some untrained, half-a$$ed momma's boy in as SRO, then of course, they won't prove effective.  The point is to have effective, trained, SROs.  The article itself lists quite a number of instances where a SRO has stopped a shooting, or prevented it from becoming a mass shooting.
That is not what a three word solution is as per the title of the article.  The three word coward did not even have a key to the room and hid while he told parents to stay away and not interfere while the parents' kids were being butchered.

This was an inexperienced kid who did this killing, and the guy with the badge did NOTHING.

The solution is to never depend upon the system for safety.  First and foremost, depend upon yourself.

That place was a war zone and in war one takes matters into one's own hands and take out those who desert their duty to protect.
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That is not what a three word solution is as per the title of the article.  The three word coward did not even have a key to the room and hid while he told parents to stay away and not interfere while the parents' kids were being butchered.

This was an inexperienced kid who did this killing, and the guy with the badge did NOTHING.

The solution is to never depend upon the system for safety.  First and foremost, depend upon yourself.

That place was a war zone and in war one takes matters into one's own hands and take out those who desert their duty to protect.


Oh please.  Shall we now send all 5 year olds to school with a fully loaded AR-15?  What about some grenades as well?

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Better securing our schools and having a competent defender on site too. Now what if a determined crazy rather than walk the halls killing children simply waits for them to come out of that secured build for recess and start firing away? We can't ever keep children in a school 100% safe unless we put them in a walled prison, and even then they will be vulnerable going to and from. No it will take more than just hardening the schools and having a proper safety officer on site and it makes me weep that this is one more thing that has been taken from our children.

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In this case, SRO = just another Democrat on government payroll.
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Better securing our schools and having a competent defender on site too. Now what if a determined crazy rather than walk the halls killing children simply waits for them to come out of that secured build for recess and start firing away? We can't ever keep children in a school 100% safe unless we put them in a walled prison, and even then they will be vulnerable going to and from. No it will take more than just hardening the schools and having a proper safety officer on site and it makes me weep that this is one more thing that has been taken from our children.


If it goes that far, then it becomes necessary to start removing guns from the general population.

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If it goes that far, then it becomes necessary to start removing guns from the general population.
Yeah giving up our freedoms is sure way to protect us, I think not. At this point I would be much more inclined to allow some over reaction to something a person say or does and have them evaluated than decide disarming everyone is the way to go. Maybe we should also restrict a person speech so they can't say anything that would offend some one. Every time the media goes into overdrive along with the left it breeds more of these acts by people that don't feel they are getting recognition and are too cowardly to exit life on their own.

The hamfisted point I was making is that life is a risk, you can do your best to minimize those risks but risks and you should, but risks will always be there.
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Oh please.  Shall we now send all 5 year olds to school with a fully loaded AR-15?  What about some grenades as well?
Are you just plain dumb? Why would you even say something like that?

Parents were anxiously outside while police refused to go in.  You go in, regardless.  That is taking care of yourself and family rather than depending upon the non-action of police while your baby is getting murdered.

Of course there are other actions parents can take as well.  Ever hear of home schooling?

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Are you just plain dumb? Why would you even say something like that?

Parents were anxiously outside while police refused to go in.  You go in, regardless.  That is taking care of yourself and family rather than depending upon the non-action of police while your baby is getting murdered.

Of course there are other actions parents can take as well.  Ever hear of home schooling?




Thanks for the insult.

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If that is all you read, then that is really really sad
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Are you just plain dumb? Why would you even say something like that?

Parents were anxiously outside while police refused to go in.  You go in, regardless.  That is taking care of yourself and family rather than depending upon the non-action of police while your baby is getting murdered.

Of course there are other actions parents can take as well.  Ever hear of home schooling?
Here's how one parent took matters into her own hands.  She went in and saved her kids from the massacre in spite of driving 40 miles and being restrained by police .
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“The police were doing nothing,” said Angeli Rose Gomez, who after learning about the shooting drove 40 miles to Robb Elementary School, where her children are in second and third grade. “They were just standing outside the fence. They weren’t going in there or running anywhere.”

Ms. Gomez, a farm supervisor, said that she was one of numerous parents who began encouraging—first politely, and then with more urgency—police and other law enforcement to enter the school. After a few minutes, she said, federal marshals approached her and put her in handcuffs, telling her she was being arrested for intervening in an active investigation.

Ms. Gomez convinced local Uvalde police officers whom she knew to persuade the marshals to set her free. Around her, the scene was frantic. She said she saw a father tackled and thrown to the ground by police and a third pepper-sprayed. Once freed from her cuffs, Ms. Gomez made her distance from the crowd, jumped the school fence, and ran inside to grab her two children. She sprinted out of the school with them.
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,470600.msg2647702.html#msg2647702
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If that is all you read, then that is really really sad

And again.