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What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
« on: May 07, 2022, 12:56:57 pm »
May 7, 2022
What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
By Mark Landsbaum

This is the real difference between Donald Trump and the political establishment, whether Republican or Democrat. The esteemed “conservative” Wall Street Journal editorial board has called on Wisconsin authorities to ignore a preliminary investigation report by former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman that found unethical and illegal acts that he says should prompt the state legislature to “take a hard look” at decertifying the 2020 election.

The Journal says Wisconsin should instead be practical and play it politically safe. In its editorial, the Journal urges Republicans to move on and concentrate on defeating incumbent Democrat Gov. Tom Evers rather than “chasing ghosts.”

For his part, Trump says if investigation is halted, perpetrators will be emboldened to cheat again in this year’s elections.

The “conservative” Journal finds itself arguing the democratic party’s standard talking point: “Move on.” That preference reveals the extent of the swamp that voters chose Trump to drain in 2016. It’s a bipartisan cesspool and even conservative media champions are caught in the bog.

It’s also nothing new. Republicans have traditionally conformed to the “move on” mentality after every election. After his 1960 loss, Richard Nixon declined to pursue JFK’s obvious election chicanery.

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Re: What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2022, 01:01:48 pm »
I do not believe it was a lack of Republican courage that prevented draining the Swamp, so much as key GOP members being full-blown participants in that ecology.
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2022, 01:31:39 pm »
I do not believe it was a lack of Republican courage that prevented draining the Swamp, so much as key GOP members being full-blown participants in that ecology.

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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2022, 01:54:25 pm »
I do not believe it was a lack of Republican courage that prevented draining the Swamp, so much as key GOP members being full-blown participants in that ecology.

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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2022, 02:05:36 pm »
I do not believe it was a lack of Republican courage that prevented draining the Swamp, so much as key GOP members being full-blown participants in that ecology.

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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2022, 02:10:07 pm »
@Smokin Joe

I understand some of them MAY even have Chinese wife/handlers.

And many that don't are still on the payroll.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2022, 03:52:50 pm »
@mystery-ak

IMHO this article needs to be put somewhere MUCH more prominent.
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Re: What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2022, 02:59:52 am »
I do not believe it was a lack of Republican courage that prevented draining the Swamp, so much as key GOP members being full-blown participants in that ecology.

It would help to have a President committed to draining the Swamp.    Trump certainly wasn't that President.
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Re: What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2023, 07:26:09 pm »
Gaetz was in the first two weeks of Jan what Trump was in 2016: he pretty much exposed who was an establishment shill and who wasn't.

Now, I do believe there is some nuance to that (even Gaetz "capitulated" when McCarthy gave him mostly what he wanted), and I am not ready to completely write of some people who supported McCarthy form the start (MTG).

However, with Crowder's latest revelations about DW, I am beginning to wonder if we don't need to drain our own swamp before we drain the American swamp.

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Re: What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2023, 07:29:11 pm »
Another big problem is our intelligence and Federal law enforcement agencies. It seems like when someone does stand up, they are threatened, offed, or charges are trumped up against them, pun intended.

Fortunately I'm not wealthy or in charge, because my prescription would be....radical.
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2023, 08:12:11 pm »
Primary the hell out of establishment and long-term office holders.

Force McCarthy and McConnell to drain all the funds from their repsective PACs/SuperPACs.
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2023, 08:20:48 pm »
Another big problem is our intelligence and Federal law enforcement agencies. It seems like when someone does stand up, they are threatened, offed, or charges are trumped up against them, pun intended.

Fortunately I'm not wealthy or in charge, because my prescription would be....radical.

Ditto!
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Re: What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2023, 03:05:38 am »
It's a good idea to punish anyone who committed crimes, and to fix whatever holes may exist in election law.  That's how you prevent it from happening again.

It's the "decertification" of electoral selection that happened more than two years ago that is completely pointless.  Even if you managed to pass such a resolution, the time for those electors to cast their ballots is long-since passed.  Complete waste of time.

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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2023, 03:07:51 am »
It's a good idea to punish anyone who committed crimes, and to fix whatever holes may exist in election law.  That's how you prevent it from happening again.

It's the "decertification" of electoral selection that happened more than two years ago that is completely pointless.  Even if you managed to pass such a resolution, the time for those electors to cast their ballots is long-since passed.  Complete waste of time.

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Re: What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2023, 03:37:38 am »

It's the "decertification" of electoral selection that happened more than two years ago that is completely pointless.

What decertification was that?

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Re: What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2023, 03:43:10 am »
What decertification was that?

The one suggested in the OP article -- for Wisconsin to decertify its 2020 electors.

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Re: What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2023, 11:18:08 pm »
I do not believe it was a lack of Republican courage that prevented draining the Swamp, so much as key GOP members being full-blown participants in that ecology.

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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2024, 03:00:58 am »
Time to dust this thread off.  Here we are two years later, and Republicans haven't done a damn thing to block Democrats from stealing the next election.  Expect record Democrat turnout via mail-in vote.  Biden gets over 90 million votes.  And Republicans play the victim card.
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Re: What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2024, 11:36:59 am »
Time to dust this thread off.  Here we are two years later, and Republicans haven't done a damn thing to block Democrats from stealing the next election. Expect record Democrat turnout via mail-in vote.  Biden gets over 90 million votes. And Republicans play the victim card.

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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2024, 03:06:22 pm »
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I wouldn't be surprised if it is reported that he got ALL the votes.

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Re: What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2024, 03:33:24 am »
It never stops bugging me how ANYONE would be willing to "move on" from a stolen Presidential election.

You either resolve that issue and punish some people, or it's just gonna keep on happening, more and more.

Like we saw in the 2022 midterms...with numerous examples of elections that took days and weeks to "decide", wherein Demoncrats always emerged as the "winners."


Oh, we are in SO much trouble here... (sound of forehead hitting keyboardfsdlkjfwekfetrjwijrgirj)


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« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2024, 04:51:27 am »
It never stops bugging me how ANYONE would be willing to "move on" from a stolen Presidential election.

You either resolve that issue and punish some people, or it's just gonna keep on happening, more and more.

Like we saw in the 2022 midterms...with numerous examples of elections that took days and weeks to "decide", wherein Demoncrats always emerged as the "winners."


Oh, we are in SO much trouble here... (sound of forehead hitting keyboardfsdlkjfwekfetrjwijrgirj)
Well, if those who had the ability or opportunity to do something (right up to and including SCOTUS) had done something, it would have been done. Apparently they feel the situation benefits them, too. I'm with @roamer_1 --throw them all out.
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Re: What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2024, 02:46:25 pm »
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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2024, 02:49:35 pm »
It never stops bugging me how ANYONE would be willing to "move on" from a stolen Presidential election.

You either resolve that issue and punish some people, or it's just gonna keep on happening, more and more.

Like we saw in the 2022 midterms...with numerous examples of elections that took days and weeks to "decide", wherein Demoncrats always emerged as the "winners."


Oh, we are in SO much trouble here... (sound of forehead hitting keyboardfsdlkjfwekfetrjwijrgirj)

FWIW, I have not "moved on" from what happened in 2020 nor will I. Ever!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Re: What 'Moving On' Has Cost Us
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2024, 03:47:25 am »
It never stops bugging me how ANYONE would be willing to "move on" from a stolen Presidential election.

You either resolve that issue and punish some people, or it's just gonna keep on happening, more and more.

Like we saw in the 2022 midterms...with numerous examples of elections that took days and weeks to "decide", wherein Demoncrats always emerged as the "winners."


Oh, we are in SO much trouble here... (sound of forehead hitting keyboardfsdlkjfwekfetrjwijrgirj)

You move on because you can't "unsteal" the 2020 election.  What you can do is try to ensure the 2024 election is as fraud-free as possible.