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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1075 on: June 05, 2022, 08:49:11 pm »
Ukrainian MacGyver shows his solution to firing 82mm mortar rounds from an RPG-7 using an axe and a flex for the modification.  https://libreddit.manerakai.com/r/ukraine/comments/v4qk06/ukrainian_macgyver_shows_his_solution_to_firing/

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1076 on: June 05, 2022, 09:17:57 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1077 on: June 05, 2022, 10:28:42 pm »
Ukraine war: Putin vows to hit new targets if West sends weapons to Ukraine

Russia will expand the list of targets it will attack in Ukraine if Western countries send long-range weapons to Kyiv, President Vladimir Putin says.

The warning came as explosions shook parts of Kyiv on Sunday in the first assault on the capital city for weeks.

Russia says it hit tanks supplied by European countries. Ukraine says it was a railway repair plant.

The capital has seen little shelling in recent months, after Russia refocused its efforts on the Donbas region.

As Russia makes slow but steady progress on the ground there - hundreds of kilometres to the east - several countries have pledged to send advanced weapons to Kyiv.

Most recently, the US announced it was sending the M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS), which fires precision-guided rockets that can hit targets up to 70km (45 miles) away - far further than the artillery Ukraine currently possesses.......

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61697093
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1078 on: June 05, 2022, 10:30:06 pm »

https://twitter.com/agathaxgorski/status/1533060697382342657

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THAT ain't going to work well  for the Neo-Soviets with the Russian population.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1079 on: June 05, 2022, 10:42:13 pm »
Russia will expand the list of targets it will attack in Ukraine if Western countries send long-range weapons to Kyiv, President Vladimir Putin says.

As if targeting women, children, the elderly, schools, churches, etc. isn't enough.


The warning came as explosions shook parts of Kyiv on Sunday in the first assault on the capital city for weeks.

In other words, do nothing, and Kyiv gets hit.  So what will be different if Ukraine receives long range weapons?  I am sick of people cowering to this bully.  To hell with Putin.  Give Ukraine long-range bombers to flatten Belgorod and Bryansk.  Then ask Putin, "Like me now, bitch?"
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1080 on: June 05, 2022, 10:55:26 pm »
As if targeting women, children, the elderly, schools, churches, etc. isn't enough.


In other words, do nothing, and Kyiv gets hit. So what will be different if Ukraine receives long range weapons?  I am sick of people cowering to this bully.  To hell with Putin.  Give Ukraine long-range bombers to flatten Belgorod and Bryansk.  Then ask Putin, "Like me now, bitch?"

It is very frustrating to see people so easily manipulated by a dictator. The Russian military is not completely incompetent. They've seen how badly their military has performed and have no desire to get into a battle with NATO. Biden is a worthless, corrupt, govt. hack. He reacts to slowly and because of it things get worse than they should. Instead of sending medium range missiles to Ukraine he should send the missiles with the longer range so Ukraine can destroy bridges, train stations and arms depots.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1081 on: June 05, 2022, 10:56:11 pm »
It is very frustrating to see people so easily manipulated by a dictator. The Russian military is not completely incompetent. They've seen how badly their military has performed and have no desire to get into a battle with NATO. Biden is a worthless, corrupt, govt. hack. He reacts to slowly and because of it things get worse than they should. Instead of sending medium range missiles to Ukraine he should send the missiles with the longer range so Ukraine can destroy bridges, train stations and arms depots.

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1082 on: June 06, 2022, 12:35:57 am »
Vladimir Putin 'loses his 11th general' in Ukraine war as defenders 'ambush his vehicle in Donbas'

WILL STEWART  |  14:01 EDT, 5 June 2022  |  UPDATED: 18:18 EDT, 5 June 2022


Vladimir Putin was today hit by the death of Russia’s 11th general in his bloody war with Ukraine.

Major-General Roman Kutuzov was the chief of staff of the 29th Combined Arms Army, according to reports.

His vehicle was ambushed by Ukrainians and he died in a fight in Donbas, say sources.

His death is the 11th general, but the first such high ranking army officer in more than a month.

In addition, at least 49 colonels have been killed in the war with Ukraine.


Major-General Roman Kutuzov (pictured) was the chief of staff of the 29th Combined Arms Army, according to reports

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10886971/Vladimir-Putin-loses-11th-general-Ukraine-war-defenders-ambush-vehicle-Donbas.html
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1083 on: June 06, 2022, 12:47:52 am »
Enemy tongue: eastern Ukrainians reject their Russian birth language

Shaun Walker, Kharkiv  |  Sat 4 Jun 2022 09.08 EDT



The street artist Gamlet in a destroyed pub in Kharkiv: the slogan on the wall reads ‘Time hears us’ in Ukrainian.

In towns near Russia’s border, Moscow’s influence was strong and Ukrainian was rarely spoken. The war has changed that

amlet Zinkivskyi grew up speaking Russian in the city of Kharkiv, just like his parents. But when Vladimir Putin launched the invasion of Ukraine on 24 February, it was the final push for him to switch fully to Ukrainian.

“Unfortunately, I grew up speaking Russian, but it’s not pleasant to speak the same language as the army that is destroying whole areas of our country,” said Zinkivskyi, a 35-year-old street artist widely known to Kharkiv residents, who usually refer to him by his first name.

The switch of language is part of a broader journey towards a more pronounced Ukrainian identity for Zinkivskyi, something shared by many in the largely Russian-speaking areas of east and south Ukraine. It is a process which has become more pronounced in the past three months, but it has been brewing for some years.

As a young artist, Zinkivskyi had a longstanding dream: an exhibition in Moscow. Kharkiv is just a few dozen miles from the border with Russia and has long been almost entirely Russian-speaking. Culturally, Moscow felt like the centre of the universe. But when Zinkivskyi finally made it to a gallery there in 2012, he was horrified. “They were obnoxious and patronising about Kharkiv and Ukraine  .  .  .

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/04/enemy-tongue-eastern-ukrainians-reject-their-russian-birth-language
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1084 on: June 06, 2022, 12:56:41 am »
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After the annexation of Crimea, in 2014, Zinkivskyi started trying to speak some Ukrainian with a few friends. Now he has fully switched, and for the first time is also introducing political and patriotic themes into his art.

The language issue is something that comes up again and again in Kharkiv. Oleksandra Panchenko, a 22-year-old interior designer, said that since 2014 she had been trying hard to improve her Ukrainian, but conceded that she still often speaks Russian with friends.

However, she is adamant that by the time she has children, she will be fluent enough to speak only Ukrainian at home. “I grew up in a Russian-language family, my kids will grow up in a Ukrainian-language family,” she said.

Back in 2014, there were separatist rumblings in Kharkiv, with some people looking to the swift annexation of Crimea and wondering if all of eastern Ukraine might not be better off inside Russia. But eight years of observing the miserable conditions in the Russian proxy states of Donetsk and Luhansk dampened those feelings, and Russia’s invasion has almost entirely extinguished them.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1085 on: June 06, 2022, 01:21:52 am »
Russia ‘suffering huge losses’ losing ground in Sievierodonetsk: official

https://nypost.com/2022/06/04/russia-losing-ground-in-sievierodonetsk-official/

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Russia is “suffering huge losses” and losing hard-fought ground in the Ukrainian city of Severodonetsk after invading units started retreating from the key industrial center, Ukrainian officials asserted Saturday.

The dramatic turnabout, which could not be independently confirmed, represented a rare successful counter-offensive against Russian forces,  which had recently been steadily advancing in Ukraine’s eastern territories.

It was the first time Ukraine claimed to have conducted a large counter-attack in Severodonetsk, a city of 100,000 and the last major municipality in the disputed Luhansk oblast under Ukrainian control, after days of losing ground in the country’s embattled east.

Russia had “previously managed to capture most of the city,” Sergiy Haidai, the governor of the Luhansk region said in a televised address Saturday, The Guardian reported. “But now our military has pushed them back.”

Later Saturday, Oleksandr Stryuk, the head of the city’s military operations, said that Ukrainian forces were able to build a line of defense in Severodonetsk, according to The Kyiv Independent.

Both sides of the war have claimed to have inflicted huge casualties in the fighting for the city — a battlefront that military experts believe could determine which of the two countries has the momentum for a prolonged war of attrition in coming months.

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1086 on: June 06, 2022, 02:51:50 am »
Vladimir Putin 'loses his 11th general' in Ukraine war as defenders 'ambush his vehicle in Donbas'

WILL STEWART  |  14:01 EDT, 5 June 2022  |  UPDATED: 18:18 EDT, 5 June 2022


Vladimir Putin was today hit by the death of Russia’s 11th general in his bloody war with Ukraine.

Major-General Roman Kutuzov was the chief of staff of the 29th Combined Arms Army, according to reports.

His vehicle was ambushed by Ukrainians and he died in a fight in Donbas, say sources.

His death is the 11th general, but the first such high ranking army officer in more than a month.

In addition, at least 49 colonels have been killed in the war with Ukraine.


Major-General Roman Kutuzov (pictured) was the chief of staff of the 29th Combined Arms Army, according to reports

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10886971/Vladimir-Putin-loses-11th-general-Ukraine-war-defenders-ambush-vehicle-Donbas.html

It's nice to see some good news.

The fighting in Donbas has been pretty intense and Ukraine has taken it's share of losses. I think things will change in a big way by August if Ukraine can get the better weapons into the fight. The longer range missiles would be an especially big help because they could take out the bridge from Russia to Crimea. 
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1087 on: June 06, 2022, 07:28:21 am »
Ukrainian MacGyver shows his solution to firing 82mm mortar rounds from an RPG-7 using an axe and a flex for the modification.  https://libreddit.manerakai.com/r/ukraine/comments/v4qk06/ukrainian_macgyver_shows_his_solution_to_firing/

Don't try this at home, kids.
Notice, he explained the detonator had been removed from the mortar round...what he is doing is a whole lot safer that way. :shrug:
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1088 on: June 06, 2022, 01:27:06 pm »
Putin 'loses TWO generals in one day': Moscow is accused of covering up the death of ANOTHER top commander as Ukrainian forces launch ambush in bloody fight for the Donbas

By CHRIS JEWERS and WILL STEWART FOR MAILONLINE
6 June 2022

Russian President Vladimir Putin lost two of his most senior commanders in a single day in a devastating bridge ambush in eastern Ukraine, a group of independent journalists working on both sides of the war have claimed.

Russia confirmed the death of Major-General Roman Kutuzov on Sunday, but new reports on Monday said Lieutenant-General Roman Berdnikov was killed on the same day in an attack carried out by Kyiv's forces.

It has been suggested that the unusual speed with which Kutuzov's death was confirmed by Moscow was an attempt to cover up the loss of Berdnikov, 47.

Less than a month ago, Berdnikov was commander of the Russian armed forces task force in Syria, and he was moved to take charge of Putin's forces and those of the Donetsk People's Republic [DPR] in Donbas.

If his death is confirmed he will be the 12th general to have been killed in the war.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10888403/Ukraine-war-Putin-loses-two-senior-commanders-one-day.html

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1089 on: June 06, 2022, 10:11:37 pm »
Russians Renew Missile Attacks on Kyiv, Reportedly From 1,000 Miles Away


Russian forces on Sunday fired missiles at Kyiv for the first time since late April.

President Vladimir Putin said that if the West delivers long-range missiles to Ukraine, Russia would retaliate by striking facilities that it has refraining from attacking up to now.

In an interview on state television, Putin shrugged off the recent U.S. decision to provide the Ukrainians with advanced multiple launch rocket systems, along with limited-range projectiles, to help them defend their territory from the invading Russian forces.

Those same systems are also capable of firing long-range missiles, however, and Putin said that if the West decides to supply Kyiv with such missiles, “we will draw conclusions from that and employ our weapons that we have in sufficient quantities to strike those facilities that we are not attacking so far.”

The Biden administration says Ukraine has committed not to use the rocket launch systems to fire across the border into Russian territory.

Meanwhile the Russians, while fighting on the ground in the eastern Donbass region – where Kremlin-backed separatists have fought the central government since 2014 – are also using long-range weapons to attack Ukraine, sometimes from many hundreds of miles away.

Early on Sunday morning, Ukraine’s defense ministry said five X-22 cruise missiles had targeted the capital early on Sunday morning. One was destroyed by a missile defense system and others hit “infrastructure facilities.” Kyiv mayor Vitali Klitschko said one injured person was hospitalized....................

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/international/patrick-goodenough/russians-renew-missile-attacks-kyiv-reportedly-1000-miles
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1090 on: June 06, 2022, 10:18:48 pm »
Russians Renew Missile Attacks on Kyiv, Reportedly From 1,000 Miles Away


Russian forces on Sunday fired missiles at Kyiv for the first time since late April.

Not good.   **nononono*

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1091 on: June 06, 2022, 10:34:42 pm »
Not good.   **nononono*

No, not at all

Ukrainian military says Russia launched 5 cruise missiles toward Kyiv: Russia “launched 5 X-22 cruise missiles from the Caspian Sea in the direction of Kyiv” at 6 a.m. local time on Sunday, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine said. One missile was destroyed by Ukraine’s air defense unit, and the rest hit “infrastructure facilities in the north of the Ukrainian capital,” the military said. Earlier, Vadym Denysenko, adviser to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, said one military target and one civilian target were hit.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-06-05-22/h_962785a398f5215ff287fecb67ee2db7

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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1092 on: June 06, 2022, 10:37:30 pm »
No, not at all

Ukrainian military says Russia launched 5 cruise missiles toward Kyiv: Russia “launched 5 X-22 cruise missiles from the Caspian Sea in the direction of Kyiv” at 6 a.m. local time on Sunday, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine said. One missile was destroyed by Ukraine’s air defense unit, and the rest hit “infrastructure facilities in the north of the Ukrainian capital,” the military said. Earlier, Vadym Denysenko, adviser to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, said one military target and one civilian target were hit.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-06-05-22/h_962785a398f5215ff287fecb67ee2db7

Hmmm...and here I thought it was just a matter of having a laser spotter on the ground, with the button pusher 1K miles away.

How 'unsophisticated'.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1093 on: June 06, 2022, 11:26:59 pm »
No, not at all

Ukrainian military says Russia launched 5 cruise missiles toward Kyiv: Russia “launched 5 X-22 cruise missiles from the Caspian Sea in the direction of Kyiv” at 6 a.m. local time on Sunday, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine said. One missile was destroyed by Ukraine’s air defense unit, and the rest hit “infrastructure facilities in the north of the Ukrainian capital,” the military said. Earlier, Vadym Denysenko, adviser to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, said one military target and one civilian target were hit.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-06-05-22/h_962785a398f5215ff287fecb67ee2db7

I think this is a message to Biden after sending long range missles to Ukraine.......reminding him to keep Zelensky's promise not to use them across the Russian border.  We shall see.



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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1094 on: June 06, 2022, 11:36:00 pm »
I think this is a message to Biden after sending long range missles to Ukraine.......reminding him to keep Zelensky's promise not to use them across the Russian border.  We shall see.

Exactly.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1095 on: June 07, 2022, 12:03:27 am »
Speaking of invasions....Watch this whole 3:05 video     

https://gettr.com/post/p1cwo074e42

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« Reply #1096 on: June 07, 2022, 12:47:38 am »
I think this is a message to Biden after sending long range missles to Ukraine.......reminding him to keep Zelensky's promise not to use them across the Russian border.  We shall see.

I think this is a message from Putin to show how much contempt he has for Ukrainians.  Putin has bombed civilian population centers in Ukraine for 102 consecutive days.  Today, Ukrainian women and children would have lost their lives to Russian artillery, bombs, rockets, and missiles regardless of what Biden did.  Killing civilians and destroying Ukrainian population centers are what Putin does.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1097 on: June 07, 2022, 12:57:46 am »
Speaking of invasions....Watch this whole 3:05 video     

https://gettr.com/post/p1cwo074e42

Holy SCH*T!!!  Invasion indeed.  Damn it!!!  Again, take some of the darn money that we're handing off to Ukraine and build a darn wall and secure our own borders and make our own country safe!!!!!  AMERICA FIRST!!!  :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1098 on: June 07, 2022, 01:03:53 am »
I think this is a message to Biden after sending long range missles to Ukraine.......reminding him to keep Zelensky's promise not to use them across the Russian border.  We shall see.

If so, the best response is to send the missiles today!

The best way to end the barbaric aggression of the Russians is to defeat them.
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Re: Ukraine 2
« Reply #1099 on: June 07, 2022, 01:14:32 am »
If so, the best response is to send the missiles today!

The best way to end the barbaric aggression of the Russians is to defeat them.

In the same light .... the best way to end the aggressive invasion at our border IS to defeat them as well.  Just sayin'.

Yes, Ukraine/Ruissa needs to stop, but we need to secure our own country!!!
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Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.