Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues

[DefiantMassRINO]

Inflation means that currency can no longer be used as a store of value - during inflation, the longer you hold currency, the less it can buy.

What Role Did Inflation Play in the Collapse of the Roman Empire
https://dailyhistory.org/What_Role_Did_Inflation_Play_in_the_Collapse_of_the_Roman_Empire

[LMAO]

@LMAO

Ok,it is more than a little pretentious to blame a new President for 3 small local businesses closing due to a 2 week shutdown. That merely means they were undercapitalized to start with,and living on "the fringe".

Hell,most hourly laborers/workers have more than 2 weeks of wages saved for emergencies.

I will grant you that the business owners were no doubt doing the best they could do to keep the doors open,but they just didn't have the cash reserves to do this.

I don't see this as being ANYONE's fault. NOBODY,not even a President can guarantee that no businesses close. Economic downturns don't happen overnight,and the problems created by them don't aren't solved overnight.

These people are all the victims of circumstances more than anything else.

Not that this is going to keep you from blaming Trump for circumstances that began long before he even took office,because you seem to think everything negative that happened in his fault and you share none of the blame for not being better prepared for what pretty much everybody else could see coming.

Biden happens. Sometimes you are in a position to deal with it and survive,or even thrive,and sometimes you aren't. Deal with it and move on.

I said nothing in my reply about who’s specifically is at  fault or who is not. But somebody ordered these unnecessary shutdowns. I’m only simply going by what these people claimed why they could not reopen.

 This  may hurt your feelings, but their claim is the shut down hurt their businesses. Since I’ve never run a business , I have to take their word for it. Unlike you and a couple others, I don’t feel it’s my place to lecture people who have run businesses how I think their businesses should be run

[Killer Clouds]

I said nothing in my reply about who’s specifically is at  fault or who is not. But somebody ordered these unnecessary shutdowns. I’m only simply going by what these people claimed why they could not reopen.

 This  may hurt your feelings, but their claim is the shut down hurt their businesses. Since I’ve never run a business , I have to take their word for it. Unlike you and a couple others, I don’t feel it’s my place to lecture people who have run businesses how I think their businesses should be run

You're making a lot of assumptions which you know nothing about.

[LMAO]

You're making a lot of assumptions which you know nothing about.

Actually,  I’m going by your and a couple others posting history on this thread…...

[sneakypete]

No

It’s that not only is his posting style in that last post would sound to me like an intoxicated individual ,his message is wrong. We don’t blame Donald Trump solely for our fiscal situation. There’s just no denying that he contributed to it. It seems no matter how many times you or other posters are told that, you put your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and go “la la la la la la.”

Ignoring that fact doesn’t make it go away just because they make you feel uncomfortable.

Now, when you claim I have an agenda, you need to define what my agenda is. These shut downs were absolutely unnecessary. But I do hold local and state governments more responsible for that than Trump himself.

Unlike yourself, I don’t cheer inflation or more debt as long as it’s “my guy” doing it. You disagree and I guess that’s your right

@LMAO

No,you think you are one of those "perfect people" who demand,and who WILL receive perfection right out of the box.

Kinda like a 5 year old crying for ice cream.

MOST people realize that the system is so swamped with corruption as WELL AS FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS that  Jesus Christ himself couldn't take office and solve all the problems in one term and not piss people off and face resistance.

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete
Your posturing is as unwise as it is ludicrous. My support is conditioned by the support of Conservative principles.

@roamer_1

Get over your pompous,posing self. You sound like a child having a temper tantrum because Santa didn't bring him everything he wanted.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

Get over your pompous,posing self. You sound like a child having a temper tantrum because Santa didn't bring him everything he wanted.

LOL! Note that Conservatism - That is: Conservative Principles - is why this board exists. Note also that historically, it is Conservatism that brought the various factions of the Right together - And ONLY Conservatism has done that.

That being said 'Not everything I wanted' is yet another absurdity. It is hardly an ask to expect Republicans of any stripe to be responsible enough to spend MUCH less than Democrats.

For those of you in Rio Linda: Much Less is the exact opposite of MUCH MORE.

[LMAO]

@LMAO

No,you think you are one of those "perfect people" who demand,and who WILL receive perfection right out of the box.

Kinda like a 5 year old crying for ice cream.

MOST people realize that the system is so swamped with corruption as WELL AS FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS that  Jesus Christ himself couldn't take office and solve all the problems in one term and not piss people off and face resistance.

I think we’ve explained this several times to you. We are $30 trillion in debt. It’s safe to say that that will be higher at the end of Biden’s  term whether he serves one or two terms

You have mocked people who expressed concern regarding that debt despite it being a good part of why we are experiencing inflation.



And this why conservatives prefer individuals keep more of what they earn instead of more going to the federal government. You disagree and I’m not gonna change your mind. Screaming “obligations” is only an excuse that some use to give that federal government even more power. Leftists use that  to fight any spending cuts

Insolvent government programs, many stories, some which have been posted on this very site, of federal government mismanaging money and yet there’s still some that want the federal government to have even more money and power

Boggles my mind. On one hand you tell us how corrupt the Federal government is, which you’re probably not gonna find any disagreement on this site. Yet you attack people that want to keep more of the money they earn as opposed to sending more to the same federal government that you even describe as corrupt as selfish

As an expression of your generosity to the federal government, this tax season do not take any deductions. In fact, if you owe any money to the federal government, send them a check with an amount that’s even more than you owe.

[Killer Clouds]

Actually,  I’m going by your and a couple others posting history on this thread…...

Again you have no idea what you're talking about. You're making uninformed assumptions.

[mystery-ak]

Stop the personal insults now!

[LMAO]

@LMAO

No,you think you are one of those "perfect people" who demand,and who WILL receive perfection right out of the box.

Kinda like a 5 year old crying for ice cream.

No

I don’t expect perfection. But it would be nice if we had more people in office who were truly concerned about dealing with inflation and runaway spending

If I conducted a business using the federal government as a model, it’s a safe bet I’d be in federal prison

[Bigun]

If I conducted a business using the federal government as a model, it’s a safe bet I’d be in federal prison

That very thing happened to Bernie Madoff!

[Kamaji]

That very thing happened to Bernie Madoff!

[christian]

Some people think that real Conservatism, comes from a socialist government/governing changing  to a harsh iron bar rule.
Fidel Trudeau is showing the way as did El Presidenta of Canada or Venezuela.  His real daddy would be so proud if he was alive today.  Relax Fidel T, smoke a Cuban.

[christian]

The lesson here is why one should never post while intoxicated

Old leftist tactic, when your message fails, attack the person.  The reality being of no concern.
 

[Hoodat]

@roamer_1

Get over your pompous,posing self. You sound like a child having a temper tantrum because Santa didn't bring him everything he wanted.

I personally don't want Santa bringing me jack sh!t. And that especially goes when Santa has to borrow or print up money to do it.  Santa can go back to doing the things that Santa did back in 1787, and I will enjoy my freedom.

[sneakypete]

I think we’ve explained this several times to you. We are $30 trillion in debt. It’s safe to say that that will be higher at the end of Biden’s  term whether he serves one or two terms

You have mocked people who expressed concern regarding that debt despite it being a good part of why we are experiencing inflation.



And this why conservatives prefer individuals keep more of what they earn instead of more going to the federal government. You disagree and I’m not gonna change your mind.

@LMAO

A flat-out lie. What I disagree with is the government NOT paying the bills they have already accumulated.

Screaming “obligations” is only an excuse that some use to give that federal government even more power. Leftists use that  to fight any spending cuts

And you obviously think the government should stiff the citizens they owe money to in order for YOU to not have to participate in the paybacks.

What makes YOU so special? If we agree that YOU should not have to help pay off the govenrment debt,will you promise to never again enjoy or use any of the benefits that come from tax money?

Good luck living without electricity,running water,paved roads,no health care,etc,etc,etc.





Insolvent government programs, many stories, some which have been posted on this very site, of federal government mismanaging money and yet there’s still some that want the federal government to have even more money and power

Yeah,and YOUR answer is to refuse to pay the bills owed. Just exactly what do you think would happen if your financial wet dream came true,as far as the value of the dollar and the credit rating of the US government goes?

Boggles my mind.

I would love to take credit for that,but Mother Nature beat me to it.

[sneakypete]

I personally don't want Santa bringing me jack sh!t. And that especially goes when Santa has to borrow or print up money to do it.  Santa can go back to doing the things that Santa did back in 1787, and I will enjoy my freedom.

@Hoodat

Ok,so you would be happy living without running water,electricity,a military that does more than babysit reservation Indians,dirt roads,etc,etc,etc?

Good to know.

[DefiantMassRINO]

The appropriated funds are future money - credit card.  There may not be the revenues necessary to pay for them.

Paying bills is present money - paying the credit card bill.

It's quite perverse that Congress can spend money without being obligated to pay the bills.

As I think about it, it makes some sense - appropriations may occur duing one Congressional session, but the bills may come due in a later, different Congressional session.

Fiscal conservatives don't want to pay someone else's tab without getting some spending concessions in return.  Now, it's just a game of Government shutdown chicken that results in a higher debt ceiling without any spending cuts.

[sneakypete]

Fiscal conservatives don't want to pay someone else's tab without getting some spending concessions in return. 

Not only is there nothing wrong with that,in most cases it is prudent. Granted,we can't control every aspect of the budget,but we CAN cut back in certain areas without causing public harm or stress.

Well,it might cause a little harm and stress to some "connected" billionaires,but they will just have to suck it up.

Now, it's just a game of Government shutdown chicken that results in a higher debt ceiling without any spending cuts.

Unfortunate,and too true for comfort. Especially since this is usually more connected to "political favors owed" than it is to actual public needs.

[Hoodat]

@Hoodat

Ok,so you would be happy living without running water,electricity,a military that does more than babysit reservation Indians,dirt roads,etc,etc,etc?

Good to know.

@sneakypete
There was nothing in my post that even remotely gave a suggestion of that.

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@sneakypete
There was nothing in my post that even remotely gave a suggestion of that.

I don’t see any posts by anyone advocating no federal spending or a desire to turn us into a Third World country

We just simply can’t afford the many “ obligations” the federal government has found fit to spend on over the years

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete
There was nothing in my post that even remotely gave a suggestion of that.

@Hoodat

You DO understand that everything done by the government requires somebody be paid for doing it,right?

We can argue back and forth about how much should be paid for what jobs,but that changes nothing,and there ARE things that MUST be done to keep the country running.

[roamer_1]

@Hoodat

You DO understand that everything done by the government requires somebody be paid for doing it,right?

We can argue back and forth about how much should be paid for what jobs,but that changes nothing,and there ARE things that MUST be done to keep the country running.

Riiiight. Too big to fail... Heard that crap quite enough.

The reality is that the federal government has broadly extended itself far beyond the enumerated powers granted it in the Constitution. A full third of the country works for government. A full third that votes to keep that moneyball rolling... Add another third that are dependent upon government cheese, and I think you can begin to understand the problem.

ALL of that is not production. IOW, one person is producing, and two are riding the government gravy train. That math will never work out, I don't care how you add it up.

It has to stop. We don't have the money. You REALLY think we went into debt EIGHT FRIGGIN TRILLION BUCKS just to keep the power on? Bullcrap.

That anyone tries to defend an administration that cost TWENTY TRILLION - THAT'S TWENTY TRILLION FRIGGIN DOLLARS - Almost a full third of it new debt and printed money is entirely unconscionable.

[sneakypete]

Riiiight. Too big to fail... Heard that crap quite enough.

The relity is that the federal government has broadly extended itself far beyond the enumerated powers granted it in the Constitution. A full third of the country works for government. A full third that votes to keep that moneyball rolling... Add another third that are dependent upon government cheese, and I think you can begin to understand the problem.

ALL of that is not production. IOW, one person is producing, and two are riding the government gravy train. That math will never work out, I don't care how you add it up.

It has to stop. We don't have the money. You REALLY think we went into debt EIGHT FRIGGIN TRILLION BUCKS just to keep the power on? Bullcrap.

That anyone tries to defend an administration that cost TWENTY TRILLION - THAT'S TWENTY TRILLION FRIGGIN DOLLARS - Almost a full third of it new debt and printed money is entirely unconscionable.

@roamer_1

Ok,bubba!

You have all the answers,so tell us what is going to happen when you get YOUR way,and tens of thousands,maybe even hundreds if thousands of people are put out of work overnight due to your dictates?

You,and I,may think their jobs are unnecessary,but I assure you,they,and the people they pay their house payments,car payments,kids clothes and lunches,etc,etc,etc to each week or month think those payments are pretty damn necessary.

Can they come live with you?

Come up with a plan to slowly phase some of those jobs out without putting those people out on the street homeless and hungry,and I will listen to you.

Just keep bloviating about how those jobs need to be eliminated right now,and I will continue to consider you to be a gas bag.

BTW,in the spirit of full disclosure,ALL of my income is from the feral goobermint. I am a 100 percent service connected disabled VN vet,plus being in my 70's,I am retired on SS.

Joined the US Army on my 17th birthday,and served almost 7 years before being put out on disability from my second tour in VN.

I am too old and too crippled up/sick with cancer to work,so cut MY money off,and I am going to pick up my rifle and go into politics.

And I am not the only one.

Just how many people are you willing to make desperate all at the same time?

I am thinking you have never been sick,out of work,and homeless and living in a truck parked in the woods because you were physically unable to work. I have back when I was younger,and I am too old and sick to even think about doing that again at this stage in my life.

I suspect you really haven't given any real thought to what you and others like you would be facing if you get your way.

BTW,I am NOT saying government budgets shouldn't be trimmed,and some of them even eliminated. I AM saying anybody that calls for blanket cuts immediately is a total damn fool,though.

If the shoe fits..........