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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #125 on: February 08, 2022, 06:21:54 am »
Sustained socialist liberal agenda, quiet when democrats are pissing away trillions, scream bloody murder to blame Trump for his healing America with his spending, then screaming bloody murder blame Trump when democrats are back in office pissing away more trillions on our enemies not full bankrolled with out money.  No blame there, except blame Trump.  It's easy enough see it for what it is.  Of course. There are none so blind as those that will not see, or are secret hos to our enemies.
What we are seeing is NeverTrumpers and fellow stooges lock-stepping to aid and abet our destruction.
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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #126 on: February 08, 2022, 07:04:58 pm »
How did we manager to get to 30 trillion?  Blame shift all the spending onto
Trump, the fools and damn fools won't have a clue and they are many, very many.
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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #127 on: February 08, 2022, 07:25:43 pm »
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It doesn't matter WHAT they are spending the money on. It is THAT they're spending the money...

Utterly amazing, spending our money on our enemies economies and military is no different than spending the money on our own economy and military.  Village idiots and professional morons idjits, are you hearing this?[/size][/size]
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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #128 on: February 08, 2022, 07:47:57 pm »
Doesn't matter how much they spend.

As long as they keep America's domestic energy sector hostage to the Global Climate Change fraud, energy supplies from domestic sources won't increase, energy prices won't fall, and high energy prices will continue to ripple through the economy.

On my latest electric bill, my cost per kWH was $0.30.  No relief in sight was nuclear and fossil fuel power generation stations are shutdown and not replaced with equal or greater on-demand generation and transmission capacity.

The big renewable energy Ponzi schemes are "Cape Wind" and the "Maine Connector" that will bring more Hydro-Quebec power to Massachusetts.

Hydro-electricity is not pure and innocent as the newly fallen snow as it's detrimental to fish populations, native eco-systems, and global ocean temperatures.

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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #129 on: February 08, 2022, 09:39:45 pm »

Utterly amazing, spending our money on our enemies economies and military is no different than spending the money on our own economy and military.  Village idiots and professional morons idjits, are you hearing this?


How hard is it for you to understand that our biggest enemy is our debt? When your greenback is reduced to near zero value, those enemies will stroll right in. You do not HAVE a military if you do not have a strong economy. End of story.

Tumpy was NOT 'healing America' anymore than the democrats are. You want to see healing, try fiscal austerity and see what it really looks like.

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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #130 on: February 08, 2022, 09:42:44 pm »
Doesn't matter how much they spend.


Oh the hell it don't.

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On my latest electric bill, my cost per kWH was $0.30.  No relief in sight

Is that the cost of energy going up, or the value of your dollar going down?

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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #131 on: February 08, 2022, 09:47:37 pm »
How hard is it for you to understand that our biggest enemy is our debt? When your greenback is reduced to near zero value, those enemies will stroll right in. You do not HAVE a military if you do not have a strong economy. End of story.

Tumpy was NOT 'healing America' anymore than the democrats are. You want to see healing, try fiscal austerity and see what it really looks like.

That austerity may be thrown at us whether we like it or not.  Our entire governemnt has failed us, and is criminally complicit with this $30T debt. No country or entity wants to invest in treasury bonds with that level of leveraged debt.  Just wait until the world is decoupled from the Dollar as reference currency.  This country has no idea how quickly this will make our nation  into a 3rd world hell hole.  I just hope our politicians from these past 30 years can be found so they can be dealt with.
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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #132 on: February 08, 2022, 09:54:50 pm »
That austerity may be thrown at us whether we like it or not.  Our entire governemnt has failed us, and is criminally complicit with this $30T debt. No country or entity wants to invest in treasury bonds with that level of leveraged debt.  Just wait until the world is decoupled from the Dollar as reference currency.  This country has no idea how quickly this will make our nation  into a 3rd world hell hole.  I just hope our politicians from these past 30 years can be found so they can be dealt with.

Clue as to what's coming at the link below:

The U.S. is considering a radical rethinking of the dollar for today's digital world

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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #133 on: February 08, 2022, 09:58:23 pm »
That austerity may be thrown at us whether we like it or not.  Our entire governemnt has failed us, and is criminally complicit with this $30T debt. No country or entity wants to invest in treasury bonds with that level of leveraged debt.  Just wait until the world is decoupled from the Dollar as reference currency.  This country has no idea how quickly this will make our nation  into a 3rd world hell hole.  I just hope our politicians from these past 30 years can be found so they can be dealt with.

That is exactly right - I am not an alarmist. This is a dire thing. The wealth of a nation siphoned off... and people are defending the politicians who are doing it. Intentionally doing it. They KNOW what they are doing.

How long did it take Venezuela to collapse in cinders? What, at the outside, 5 years? It happened in a flood. The same will happen here.

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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #134 on: February 08, 2022, 10:05:05 pm »
Clue as to what's coming at the link below:

The U.S. is considering a radical rethinking of the dollar for today's digital world

When we have the next World wide economic SHTF event, this is what will happen.  That day whenever it is, will be the ultimate day of "winners" and "losers", and based on our balance sheet, we (The $USD) will be an ultimate loser, on how these conversions pan out on the exchange rates. Without the luxury of being the world's reference currency, my wild ass guess is the $USD really is really worth somewhere between 30-50% of true par value.  Especially as the world dumps US paper prior to the event. 

Bigun, thanks for the article.  I am borrowing the link, and adding it to the pinned Crypto thread....
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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #135 on: February 08, 2022, 10:08:06 pm »
When we have the next World wide economic SHTF event, this is what will happen.  That day whenever it is, will be the ultimate day of "winners" and "losers", and based on our balance sheet, we (The $USD) will be an ultimate loser, on how these conversions pan out on the exchange rates. Without the luxury of being the world's currency, my wild ass guess is the $USD really is really worth somewhere between 30-50% of true par value.  Especially as the world dumps US paper prior to the event. 

Bigun, thanks for the article.  I am borrowing the link, and adding it to the pinned Crypto thread....

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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #136 on: February 08, 2022, 10:44:42 pm »
Oh the hell it don't.

Is that the cost of energy going up, or the value of your dollar going down?

Both:

1.) reduced energy supply = higher cost.
2.) increased money supply relative to the supply of goods and services = reduced purchasing power

Biden is buring both ends of the inflationary candle.

Without increasing energy supply, the only option is to:
1.) Increase rates to reduce demand relative to supply
     a.) Higher rates and inadequate velocity of money leads to insufficient liquidity
     b.) Demand for dollars increases relative to supply of goods, services, and circulating currency
     c.) Shortage of dollars results in reduction of dollar-denominated value of assets
     d.) Reduction of dollar-denominated asset values creates credit insolvency
     e.) Insolvent entities call-in credit facilities, demanding immediate repayment in dollars
     f.) Demand for immediate dollar repayments, leads to sale of assets at reduced values to book
     g.) This creates more insolvency that demands more asset sales at further reduced dollar prices to provide dollars for repayment
     i.) Thus, debt is the atomic fuel for a nuclear recursive deflationary death spiral
     j.) GAME OVER

This is where we were headed during the 2008/2009 credit collapse.  The Fed countered deflation by manufacturing monetary inflation.  They took unprecdented step of exchanging dollars for private credit vehicles to inject liquidity into the credit markets.

The Fed intentionally created inflation, by injecting massive numbers of dollars, to blunt a deflationary death spiral that was taking the World to a second Great Depression.

Our economy and governemt has become addicted to unnaturally low interest rates.  Any attempt to increase interest rates too rapidly will cause sudden, violent seizing of credit markets once again.

A slow, steady, predictable, coordinated global increase in rates is required to allow insitutions and individuals the opportunity to retire debt (contract the money supply) incrementally to avoid rapid monetary dislocation, credit seizures, and liquidity crunches.

If debt is not retired, the money supply increases unabated and the US becomes the new Zimbabwe.
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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #137 on: February 08, 2022, 11:13:26 pm »
When I got out of college, my first job I had no 401(k) or pension. But I invested $100 a month into a Roth IRA.

It wasn’t until 2007 that I got a job that had a 401(k) with a match. In that short time, my wife and I have been able to build ourselves a very nice retirement nest egg.

The idea that “people can’t do it unless the government does it for them” is what’s crippling us
Besides mandatory civics classes, all students should study basic economics like you just laid out.

For all his achievements in the scientific arena, Einstein had this to say:

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« Reply #138 on: February 08, 2022, 11:17:47 pm »
Besides mandatory civics classes, all students should study basic economics like you just laid out.

For all his achievements in the scientific arena, Einstein had this to say:

“Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it ... he who doesn't ... pays it.”

Thanks @IsailedawayfromFR That one is now added to my collection of quotes.
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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #139 on: February 09, 2022, 02:24:36 pm »
How hard is it for you to understand that our biggest enemy is our debt?

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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #140 on: February 11, 2022, 05:00:52 am »
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How hard is it for you to understand that our biggest enemy is our debt? When your greenback is reduced to near zero value, those enemies will stroll right in. You do not HAVE a military if you do not have a strong economy. End of story.

Whats to understand, you helped Biden take over and rape our economy, rule by fear mongering through diseases, put millions out of work, enormously weaken the dollar, and reverse jobs to go back to China.  Your handiwork and the death spiral we are now in, you had your hand in it, but insist don't blame you or Biden, blame Trump.  Socialist Communist comedienne work, clear as day.
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« Reply #141 on: February 11, 2022, 05:43:33 am »
Whats to understand, you helped Biden take over and rape our economy, rule by fear mongering through diseases, put millions out of work, enormously weaken the dollar, and reverse jobs to go back to China.  Your handiwork and the death spiral we are now in, you had your hand in it, but insist don't blame you or Biden, blame Trump.  Socialist Communist comedienne work, clear as day.

No less rape than Tumpy. It's the SOSDD. Tumpy was the one who presided over the destruction of MY personal business along with thousands upon thousands of others. Those millions upon millions thrown out of work happened on Tumpy's watch. You've got your orange-colored glasses on.

I don't want Bidet. But I don't want Tumpy neither... BOTH sides are a scourge. BOTH sides are raping you, your children, and your grandchildren.

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« Reply #142 on: February 11, 2022, 05:55:45 am »
Whats to understand, you helped Biden take over and rape our economy, rule by fear mongering through diseases, put millions out of work, enormously weaken the dollar, and reverse jobs to go back to China.  Your handiwork and the death spiral we are now in, you had your hand in it, but insist don't blame you or Biden, blame Trump.  Socialist Communist comedienne work, clear as day.
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« Reply #143 on: February 11, 2022, 12:49:33 pm »
I don't want Bidet. But I don't want Tumpy neither... BOTH sides are a scourge. BOTH sides are raping you, your children, and your grandchildren.
Even so, we have to oppose the side in power NOW, and that's "Bidet." Trump is doing nothing harmful to any of us at this moment. Biden/Obama/Rice/Jarrett/Soros/whoever is in charge is destroying this nation.
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Re: Biden touts plans for lowering prices as inflation surge continues
« Reply #144 on: February 11, 2022, 12:56:17 pm »
No less rape than Tumpy. It's the SOSDD. Tumpy was the one who presided over the destruction of MY personal business along with thousands upon thousands of others. Those millions upon millions thrown out of work happened on Tumpy's watch. You've got your orange-colored glasses on.

I don't want Bidet. But I don't want Tumpy neither... BOTH sides are a scourge. BOTH sides are raping you, your children, and your grandchildren.

Trump putting so much trust into Fauxci the Killer is his biggest bonehead move.  Fauxci had a history of left wing political leaning.  Why didn't Trump in his boast of only "Hiring the Best" pick that up in background checks.   If you take away these two huge mistakes (massive deficit spending and Fauxci), he actually did a pretty good job.  Just think where you'd would have been if Hitlerly had pulled off the '16 win
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« Reply #145 on: February 11, 2022, 01:09:08 pm »
It appears one or two don’t seem the grasp what $30 trillion in debt with debt to GDP ratio well over 100% means for each citizen nor the concept of inflation. Whose the village idiots?

Whether the money is printed to pay for a bomber or homeless shelter, the more dollars printed, the less the value they have and the more of them it takes for you to buy things you need. The dollar is apolitical. It doesn’t grasp the concept of partisanship

I guess inflation wouldn’t be a problem if you didn’t need fuel, clothing, food, etc. etc.



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« Reply #146 on: February 11, 2022, 01:10:17 pm »
Trump putting so much trust into Fauxci the Killer is his biggest bonehead move.  Fauxci had a history of left wing political leaning.  Why didn't Trump in his boast of only "Hiring the Best" pick that up in background checks.   If you take away these two huge mistakes (massive deficit spending and Fauxci), he actually did a pretty good job.  Just think where you'd would have been if Hitlerly had pulled off the '16 win

My bold prediction

Fauci either resigns or retires before the election or before the new Congress takes power in January 2023

He won’t be man enough to face what he’s put this country through
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« Reply #147 on: February 11, 2022, 01:22:08 pm »
That is exactly right - I am not an alarmist. This is a dire thing. The wealth of a nation siphoned off... and people are defending the politicians who are doing it. Intentionally doing it. They KNOW what they are doing.

How long did it take Venezuela to collapse in cinders? What, at the outside, 5 years? It happened in a flood. The same will happen here.

As inflation became a problem in Venezuela due Hugo’s overspending on social programs, Chavez blamed businesses and tried to force businesses to pay people more to make up for the expense of the cost of living. Those that didn’t or couldn’t, he seized

You see that playing out here although Biden probably is not a position to seize people’s private businesses. But they are blaming business for inflation. Fortunately, the public isn’t buying it

Making the vitally necessary cuts to spending is going to be difficult because, as you see here, every spending program has a constituency that will defend it
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« Reply #148 on: February 11, 2022, 02:53:33 pm »
Even so, we have to oppose the side in power NOW, and that's "Bidet." Trump is doing nothing harmful to any of us at this moment. Biden/Obama/Rice/Jarrett/Soros/whoever is in charge is destroying this nation.

Certainly. Except there ain't a damn thing you can do to oppose it now.

That's supposed to happen while the 'right' is in power. Which of course it never does. Because it feeelz better to throw poo at the other side. entirely ineffective, but it feeelz so good.

In reality, how you oppose the left is with the right. The RIGHT is what you have some control of.

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« Reply #149 on: February 11, 2022, 03:00:27 pm »
Trump putting so much trust into Fauxci the Killer is his biggest bonehead move.  Fauxci had a history of left wing political leaning.  Why didn't Trump in his boast of only "Hiring the Best" pick that up in background checks.   If you take away these two huge mistakes (massive deficit spending and Fauxci), [...]

I don't see how that is possible.

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he actually did a pretty good job.  Just think where you'd would have been if Hitlerly had pulled off the '16 win

I think he was pretty much an utter failure.
Again... What do you have in your hand right now that you got to keep?
Pretty much nothing, other than the bill.

There are things he did well - I think his foreign policy was dead on. I liked recognizing Jerusalem.
A lot of what he did domestically could have been something, had it been written into law...

But as an EO, nothing but a fart in a windstorm.
Epic fail.

And I cannot believe that folks want to do that all over again.