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Ted Cruz Most Popular Politician in Texas, Outperforming Biden, Abbott, Cornyn

Wendell Husebø 8 Nov 2021

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) is the most popular politician in Texas, outperforming President Biden, Gov. Greg Abbott (R), and Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), according to a Monday UT/TT poll.

Special Advisor to Cruz, Steve Guest, told Breitbart News the senator is “proud” to fight for Texans against the radical policies of Biden-Harris administration, which has advocated for amnesty and paying illegal aliens nearly $500,000 each after entering the country illegally during the Trump administration.

“For 10 months, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been pushing an agenda that hurts the people of Texas and the entire country,” Guest stated. “Sen. Ted Cruz is proud to lead the fight to pull this out country back from the edge of the abyss.”

While Biden has only a 35 percent approval rating in the state, Cruz weighs in at 45 percent, a margin of ten points. Biden also has a disapproval rating of 55 percent in Texas. Again, Cruz betters the president by 11 points.

Dragging down Biden’s polling numbers is his performance on coronavirus and border security. On the topic of the southern border crisis, only 22 percent approve of Biden’s performance while 63 percent disapprove. Biden is also underwater on coronavirus. Just 39 percent of Texas approve and 51 percent disapprove of Biden’s response to the virus.

Meanwhile, Cornyn has a 29 percent approval rating among Texans opposed to 46 percent who disapprove of the Texas senator.

Governor Abbott also trails Cruz in the polls. Just 44 percent approve of Abbott while 46 disapprove.

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I supported Ted running against Cornyn during last Senate primary.

We despatrately need to get rid of Cornyn who envisions himself more next Senate leader instead of a representing Texans.

Cruz would win and his vacated seat would give Abbott opportunity to place a conservative there.
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  Hell even the Marx Bros made it big because of Texas.

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How Texas Created the Marx Brothers

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Arthur Marx (Groucho's son) wrote:

"Somewhere during all this [about 1920], they stopped calling themselves "The Four Nightingales" and changed the name of the act to the "Marx Brothers & Co." Presumably this was to hide their identity, but essentially the act was the same. They were fooling no one, and by the time they pulled into a place called Nacogdoches, Texas, they were prepared for what could conceivably be a last ditch stand.

Their first performance in Nacogdoches was at a matinee. It was a real honky-tonk kind of theater. "The audience was full of big ranchers in ten-gallon hats, and a few small ranchers in five-gallon hats," Father told me.

The first part of the performance went fairly well, but in the middle of the show the audience suddenly got up en masse and disappeared through the front exit. Investigation disclosed that the customers had gone outside to view a runaway mule.

My father and his brothers, though accustomed to insults, were enraged by this one. When the customers filed back into the theater, thirty minutes later, the Marx brothers were no longer interested in giving a good performance. All they wanted to do was get even with the audience, and the only way they knew how was to burlesque the kind of singing they had been doing so seriously.

This quickly evolved into a roughhouse comedy bit, with the Marxes, led by my father, flinging insults about Texas and its inhabitants to the audience as rapidly as they could think of them... My father is not very clear about the exact phraseology of some of these insults, but he does remember calling the Texans in the audience "damned Yankees" and throwing in a couple of lines that went something like:

Nacogdoches
Is full of Roaches.

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The Jackass
Is the finest
Flower of
Tex-ass

They were not looking for laughs; they fully expected to be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail. But instead the audience loved their clowning and greeted their insults and most tired jokes with uproarious laughter.

And so they were suddenly comedians, with their fame traveling all the way to Denison, Texas. The manager of the theater in Denison not only wanted to book them, but he offered to raise the salary for the whole act from fifty to seventy-five dollars a week.

"After that we were a pretty big hit everywhere else we played in Texas. I guess we could have stayed there indefinitely, but after we got ourselves reasonably solvent, we decided to go back to Chicago. After all, how long can anyone eat chili con carne?"

 

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Hate starting sh__, but Cruz was doing just fine before the '16 Stone and Pecker slime machine started their slander. 

The meme's stuck so badly, he almost lost to Beto, and probably ruined any chance he had to to ever become POTUS.  All garbage.
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   I agree @catfish1957 but if Trump doesn't run in 24, it's an open game.
   Though there are still Trumpers that wouldn't vote for him even with his endorsement. 
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   I agree @catfish1957 but if Trump doesn't run in 24, it's an open game.
   Though there are still Trumpers that wouldn't vote for him even with his endorsement.

This report must be a mistake.  Why, everyone knows that Lyin' Ted's father was the second gunman on the grassy knoll, and that Ted destroyed his own career at the 2016 R national convention by making a dirty, childish appeal to conservative principle, and that the almighty Trump Himself had to descend on clouds of glory in His munificent grace to pull Ted through his 2018 re-election bid.  Cruz popular in Texas?  No, that's not possible, it can't be.  NO ONE defies Trump and lives to talk about it.........

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Hate starting sh__, but Cruz was doing just fine before the '16 Stone and Pecker slime machine started their slander. 

The meme's stuck so badly, he almost lost to Beto, and probably ruined any chance he had to to ever become POTUS.  All garbage.

IMHO the 2018 senate race in Texas was their trial run for their voter fraud machine in Texas. 

No way in hell did "Hell yes I'm going to take your AR-15" Robert Francis legitimately come anywhere close to beating Ted Cruz.
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IMHO the 2016 senate race in Texas was their trial run for their voter fraud machine in Texas. 

No way in hell did "Hell yes I'm going to take your AR-15" Robert Francis legitimately come anywhere close to beating Ted Cruz.


The 1.5% victory by Cruz in 2018 over Bozo Beto is IMO probably pretty close to actually what happened.  Again just my opinion

Case in point?  Check out TOS up to the election.  These so called orange conservatives were doing their best to destroy Lyin' Ted.  Many idiots bought off on the meme, including some I knew here nearby. That group never forgave Cruz for not endorsing DJT at the convention, and let their anamosity fly into the face of what was best for the country,
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The 1.5% victory by Cruz in 2018 over Bozo Beto is IMO probably pretty close to actually what happened.  Again just my opinion

Case in point?  Check out TOS up to the election.  These so called orange conservatives were doing their best to destroy Lyin' Ted.  Many idiots bought off on the meme, including some I knew here nearby. That group never forgave Cruz for not endorsing DJT at the convention, and let their anamosity fly into the face of what was best for the country,

I meant 2018.  On this we are just going to have to agree to disagree @catfish1957

No way in hell did "Hell yes I'm going to take your AR-15" Robert Francis legitimately get that many votes in Texas.


 
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I meant 2018.  On this we are just going to have to agree to disagree @catfish1957

No way in hell did "Hell yes I'm going to take your AR-15" Robert Francis legitimately get that many votes in Texas.


To the 99.99% of the time we do agree.   :beer:
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To the 99.99% of the time we do agree.   :beer:

Two quick things.

1. I didn't just come up with my theory today.  IIRC I posted here about it at the time.

2. The AG is today still prosecuting people and getting convictions for what they did in that election.


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This report must be a mistake.  Why, everyone knows that Lyin' Ted's father was the second gunman on the grassy knoll, and that Ted destroyed his own career at the 2016 R national convention by making a dirty, childish appeal to conservative principle, and that the almighty Trump Himself had to descend on clouds of glory in His munificent grace to pull Ted through his 2018 re-election bid.  Cruz popular in Texas?  No, that's not possible, it can't be.  NO ONE defies Trump and lives to talk about it.........



   So @HoustonSam those rumours about you shacking up with LA are true afterall.
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   So @HoustonSam those rumours about you shacking up with LA are true afterall.

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Amen.  He means and does what he says. 

Gotta Love Ted!!!  :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

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Hate starting sh__, but Cruz was doing just fine before the '16 Stone and Pecker slime machine started their slander. 

The meme's stuck so badly, he almost lost to Beto, and probably ruined any chance he had to to ever become POTUS.  All garbage.

Which reminds me of a pic of Cruz and Trump together --- the two of them together must make the left's heads spin.




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Which reminds me of a pic of Cruz and Trump together --- the two of them together must make the left's heads spin.


I see what you did there
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I see what you did there
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This was taken a few months ago at Mar-A Lago.  I think it's priceless!

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This report must be a mistake.  Why, everyone knows that Lyin' Ted's father was the second gunman on the grassy knoll, and that Ted destroyed his own career at the 2016 R national convention by making a dirty, childish appeal to conservative principle, and that the almighty Trump Himself had to descend on clouds of glory in His munificent grace to pull Ted through his 2018 re-election bid.  Cruz popular in Texas?  No, that's not possible, it can't be.  NO ONE defies Trump and lives to talk about it.........

Why are you posting all these lies?  POTUS TRUMP had nothing to do with the ENQUIRE having articles on this. Why all the theatrics? I still don't trust Ted, not by what POTUS TRUMP said, but what I saw myself. Ask Marco Rubio and Ben Carson.
He is an attorney, why doesn't he use that for good, for we the people?  NO MANDATES.   Such envy for POTUS TRUMP.  It is also petty. 

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Why are you posting all these lies?  POTUS TRUMP had nothing to do with the ENQUIRE having articles on this. Why all the theatrics? I still don't trust Ted, not by what POTUS TRUMP said, but what I saw myself. Ask Marco Rubio and Ben Carson.
He is an attorney, why doesn't he use that for good, for we the people?  NO MANDATES.   Such envy for POTUS TRUMP.  It is also petty.

 :facepalm2:  Oh for crying out loud ... really?  Ask Marco Rubio?  One of the RINO's from the Gang of Eight?  Of course you're joking right?

Back on 'ignore' you go; too much aggravation otherwise.

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The 1.5% victory by Cruz in 2018 over Bozo Beto is IMO probably pretty close to actually what happened.  Again just my opinion

Case in point?  Check out TOS up to the election.  These so called orange conservatives were doing their best to destroy Lyin' Ted.  Many idiots bought off on the meme, including some I knew here nearby. That group never forgave Cruz for not endorsing DJT at the convention, and let their anamosity fly into the face of what was best for the country,

Half correct.  Ted is a fair weather friend. Ted, begged to talk at convention.  His speech was approved, then CHANGED IT. AND WENT ONTO A/F 1 .....WITH OBAMA.   He is a professional politician and snake in the grass.  Why would I trust him?
Best for the country was Ted Cruz?  BORN IN CANADA, HAD DUAL CITIZENSHIP.  Mom American and Dad CUBAN.
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   So @HoustonSam those rumours about you shacking up with LA are true afterall.

Why do you do this?  AGITATE?     ****slapping

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:facepalm2:  Oh for crying out loud ... really?  Ask Marco Rubio?  One of the RINO's from the Gang of Eight?  Of course you're joking right?

Back on 'ignore' you go; too much aggravation otherwise.

Yes, I know gang of eight.   Marco, McCain, Graham, Flake=all rino's.    I am talking about WHAT Ted Cruz did to BEN CARSON and Marco.  BEN CARSON TOO.  LIED about them dropping out of race, to stop people from voting for them. It was underhanded.  The underhanded part was Ted Cruz.  Most of you are just too emotional on here. 

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:facepalm2:  Oh for crying out loud ... really?  Ask Marco Rubio?  One of the RINO's from the Gang of Eight?  Of course you're joking right?

Back on 'ignore' you go; too much aggravation otherwise.

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   So @HoustonSam those rumours about you shacking up with LA are true afterall.

I just spit my kimchi out.
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Yes, I know gang of eight.   Marco, McCain, Graham, Flake=all rino's.    I am talking about WHAT Ted Cruz did to BEN CARSON and Marco.  BEN CARSON TOO.  LIED about them dropping out of race, to stop people from voting for them. It was underhanded.  The underhanded part was Ted Cruz.  Most of you are just too emotional on here.


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Why do you do this?  AGITATE?     ****slapping

   If I didn't Love you so much I'd have you on Ignore @LegalAmerican
   Your Cruz disinformation and hate is way beyond my dislike for Trump though.
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   If I didn't Love you so much I'd have you on Ignore @LegalAmerican
   Your Cruz disinformation and hate is way beyond my dislike for Trump though.

...has become quite annoying and ridiculous.   888mouth

As for Trump, I still take issue with some things that he has done and certainly have questioned his possible motives.


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   Trump/His base is still in control of the GOP, IMHO.  Until he decides wtf he is gonna do in 2024, besides raising money to pay off lawyer fees, we, as Conservatives are at the mercy of @HoustonSam and his GF.
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   Trump/His base is still in control of the GOP, IMHO.  Until he decides wtf he is gonna do in 2024, besides raising money to pay off lawyer fees, we, as Conservatives are at the mercy of @HoustonSam and his GF.

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Half correct.  Ted is a fair weather friend. Ted, begged to talk at convention.  His speech was approved, then CHANGED IT. AND WENT ONTO A/F 1 .....WITH OBAMA.   He is a professional politician and snake in the grass.  Why would I trust him?
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When I saw you were going on the Cruz misinformation tour, I had to take a break from your "ignore" status, check, and alert everyone, that I have counted exactly 6 bald faced lies you have regurgitated about Ted Cruz on this thread.  It's this same kind of shit, I used to see at Free Republic from those nuts.  I seldom or hardly ever  use terminology like liar, but you take the cake.

Hate to tell you, but smearing the probably the most conservative person in DC makes you sound more like a participant of du..  So take you MAGA pill, and use it as a suppository.

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I still have reservations about Cruz.  I consider him to PROBABLY be the smartest man in the US Senate,and he is NOT a man you want to get into an argument with in public because chances are you are going to lose.

Still,there is something about him I just don't trust. I think there MAY be something in his background that someone else knows about that keeps him from being more ambitious. Otherwise,he would have ran for President long ago. After all,he  has the His-Panic last name that would lock that vote up for him,he is young enough and handsome enough to pull in the female vote,and he would destroy 99 percent of his opponents in debates.

Given all that,there MUST be some sort of personal reason he hasn't already stepped forward long ago.

Also,I honestly don't think he even wants to be President. Maybe it's because of my suspicions,and maybe it is as simple as he really doesn't want to be President?


IMNSHO,he would probably make a GREAT SC Justice,if someone could convince him to accept the nomination.
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SneakyPete wonders:
"I think there MAY be something in his background that someone else knows about that keeps him from being more ambitious. Otherwise,he would have ran for President long ago."

There certainly is.
He fails the "natural born citizenship" test.
For that reason, Ted Cruz (regardless of how successful he is in the Senate) will never be president.

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SneakyPete wonders:
"I think there MAY be something in his background that someone else knows about that keeps him from being more ambitious. Otherwise,he would have ran for President long ago."

There certainly is.
He fails the "natural born citizenship" test.
For that reason, Ted Cruz (regardless of how successful he is in the Senate) will never be president.

How many Rats have failed the test and still became Prez. 
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I still have reservations about Cruz.  I consider him to PROBABLY be the smartest man in the US Senate,and he is NOT a man you want to get into an argument with in public because chances are you are going to lose.

Still,there is something about him I just don't trust. I think there MAY be something in his background that someone else knows about that keeps him from being more ambitious. Otherwise,he would have ran for President long ago. After all,he  has the His-Panic last name that would lock that vote up for him,he is young enough and handsome enough to pull in the female vote,and he would destroy 99 percent of his opponents in debates.

Given all that,there MUST be some sort of personal reason he hasn't already stepped forward long ago.

Also,I honestly don't think he even wants to be President. Maybe it's because of my suspicions,and maybe it is as simple as he really doesn't want to be President?


IMNSHO,he would probably make a GREAT SC Justice,if someone could convince him to accept the nomination.

I believe you are correct; at this point I don't think Cruz wants the presidency.  Why would he subject himself and his family (young daughters) to the mudslinging from the leftists and the continued attacks? 

I don't think he'll run and I look for him to step down pretty soon. He has voiced several times that he is in favor of term limits.  I think he'd make a great justice as well, but he's already declared that's not what he wants to do.

He'd make a great conservative talk show host...his podcast is #1.

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Wingnut wonders:
"How many Rats have failed the test and still became Prez"

The rules are different for them.
Haven't figured that out... YET....?

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SneakyPete wonders:
"I think there MAY be something in his background that someone else knows about that keeps him from being more ambitious. Otherwise,he would have ran for President long ago."

There certainly is.
He fails the "natural born citizenship" test.
For that reason, Ted Cruz (regardless of how successful he is in the Senate) will never be president.

@Fishrrman

I had no idea he wasn't born in the US.

Will this keep him off the Supreme court?
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I think he'd make a great justice as well, but he's already declared that's not what he wants to do.

I was not aware of that.

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I had no idea he wasn't born in the US.

Will this keep him off the Supreme court?

Cruz was born in Alberta, Canada.  His mother was a US citizen (I don't know whether she's still alive so I speak in the past tense).  Despite arguments routinely made here, Cruz is a natural born US citizen and is fully eligible to be POTUS, as well as to fulfill any other Federal office.

A "natural born citizen" is someone who is a citizen at birth, and Cruz was; he has never been naturalized, because he didn't need to be.  He was also a Canadian citizen by virtue of being born in Canada; when he realized that he renounced Canadian citizenship.

I suspect there will now be an avalanche of postings arguing that Cruz is not a natural born citizen because he was not born on US soil.  Some of those arguments are based on careful study and reflection and commendable research, others are simply residual anger that Cruz had the temerity, the unmitigated gall, to be the last man standing against The Almighty Trump during the 2016 R primaries.  Some will argue that merely being born on US soil is also not enough to be a "natural born" citizen of the US, and that someone must be born both on US soil and of US citizen parents.  But none of those arguments are correct.

"Natural born" simply means a citizen at birth.  However that happens, whether someone is born on US soil or born of US citizen parents elsewhere, they are eligible to become POTUS.

If someone argues otherwise, they need to cite the specific articles of the Constitution, or of subsequent acts of Congress, which say so.  All the Constitution says is "natural born."
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Cruz was born in Alberta, Canada.  His mother was a US citizen (I don't know whether she's still alive so I speak in the past tense).  Despite arguments routinely made here, Cruz is a natural born US citizen and is fully eligible to be POTUS, as well as to fulfill any other Federal office.

A "natural born citizen" is someone who is a citizen at birth, and Cruz was; he has never been naturalized, because he didn't need to be.  He was also a Canadian citizen by virtue of being born in Canada; when he realized that he renounced Canadian citizenship.

I suspect there will now be an avalanche of postings arguing that Cruz is not a natural born citizen because he was not born on US soil.  Some of those arguments are based on careful study and reflection and commendable research, others are simply residual anger that Cruz had the temerity, the unmitigated gall, to be the last man standing against The Almighty Trump during the 2016 R primaries.  Some will argue that merely being born on US soil is also not enough to be a "natural born" citizen of the US, and that someone must be born both on US soil and of US citizen parents.  But none of those arguments are correct.

"Natural born" simply means a citizen at birth.  However that happens, whether someone is born on US soil or born of US citizen parents elsewhere, they are eligible to become POTUS.

If someone argues otherwise, they need to cite the specific articles of the Constitution, or of subsequent acts of Congress, which say so.  All the Constitution says is "natural born."

You have been shown your error multiple times here @HoustonSam  so I'm not going to repeat it again.

Ted Cruz is NOT a "natural born citizen" as that term was commonly understood by the writers of the constitution.


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You have been shown your error multiple times here @HoustonSam  so I'm not going to repeat it again.

Ted Cruz is NOT a "natural born citizen" as that term was commonly understood by the writers of the constitution.


http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/goatsledge/20081212%20Law%20of%20Nations.pdf

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Ok,so what are the legal requirements TODAY? I would like to hear from both of you on this.
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You have been shown your error multiple times here @HoustonSam  so I'm not going to repeat it again.

Ted Cruz is NOT a "natural born citizen" as that term was commonly understood by the writers of the constitution.


http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/goatsledge/20081212%20Law%20of%20Nations.pdf

And I have shown you the actual law known by the framers multiple times @Bigun, defining clearly that "natural born" included children born to citizens outside sovereign territory : http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1730.htm.

This was the actual law, not a commentary, in which they were educated and under which many of them practiced as attorneys.

If you have a reference to a legal document, not a commentary, in which the framers themselves, not a scholar, re-defined "natural born", please cite it.
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@Bigun   @HoustonSam

Ok,so what are the legal requirements TODAY? I would like to hear from both of you on this.

@sneakypete

SCOTUS steadfastly refused to hear any of the challenges to Obama's eligibility, but one should note that SCOTUS has never applied the term "natural born citizen" to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”

The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)

The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens.

Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens,

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

(A)ll children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
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And I have shown you the actual law known by the framers multiple times @Bigun, defining clearly that "natural born" included children born to citizens outside sovereign territory : http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1730.htm.

This was the actual law, not a commentary, in which they were educated and under which many of them practiced as attorneys.

If you have a reference to a legal document, not a commentary, in which the framers themselves, not a scholar, re-defined "natural born", please cite it.

And I have shown you that the law you cite has no application in the United States of America where there is no King and thus no lines of asencion. A FACT well known to the framers who were universally familiar with Vettel and referred to it repeatedly.
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@Bigun   @HoustonSam

Ok,so what are the legal requirements TODAY? I would like to hear from both of you on this.

Today someone is considered a natural born citizen if they are born within the United States, including territories, or if they are born to one US citizen parent anywhere.  The first condition does not apply to people born within the United States whose parents are diplomats of a foreign country hence not subject to US jurisdiction.

The only way someone can become a US citizen other than by birth is to be naturalized - by taking the citizenship test and the oath of citizenship.  Basically "natural born" means "not naturalized."  If you are a US citizen, and you were never naturalized, then you are a "natural born" US citizen.  These are the only two possibilities, there are no others.

Any US citizen who was never naturalized, and who has lived within the US for at least fourteen years, meets the citizenship requirement to serve as POTUS.
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