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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #750 on: November 17, 2021, 07:55:07 pm »
True.  Assuming for the sake of argument that they did not know that a low-res version had been submitted as evidence, once they became aware of that fact they had an obligation to withdraw the submitted version, inform the court and the defense of the facts, and do so in a manner calculated to give the court as much of a chance as possible to mitigate the damage flowing from the admission of the improper evidence, including, for example, curative instructions to the jury.

Instead of doing that they double down, and double down again like good little Soviets.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #751 on: November 17, 2021, 07:59:14 pm »
Rittenhouse Prosecutor: We Did Not Alter the Video Evidence

Joel B. Pollak 17 Nov 2021

The prosecution and defense attorneys clashed Wednesday afternoon  in the Kenosha County Court before Judge Bruce Schroeder over disputed video evidence as jurors continued a second day of deliberations.

The dispute involved several videos, especially a high-definition video that the prosecution used in closing arguments on Friday, but which had not been provided to the defense, which only received a low-definition version. The defense moved for a mistrial Tuesday on that basis.

Assistant District Attorney John Kraus told the judge that the prosecution had not intentionally withheld video evidence from the defense, but that there was an accidental compression involved in moving video between iPhone and Android devices.

The person who took the footage, according to Kraus, had earlier provided it to Rittenhouse’s former attorney, John Pierce, who had shown it last year on the Tucker Carlson Show on Fox News.

When it was emailed to the defense, there was a compression, he said, which had not been deliberate.

“If I knew how to compress files, and do all these technology things, I’d have a much better job,” Kraus said, claiming that the prosecution had done nothing to alter the video file.

The defense countered that the files appeared to be different, and the “metadata” accompanying the video appeared different. It also said that the video provided to Carlson — which Carlson’s show apparently bought — was different, as it was black-and-white. The prosecutor’s video was in color; that had not been the problem, but rather the superior quality of the prosecution’s video.

“At this point, your Honor, they have not requested what we’re fighting about,” defense lawyers Mark Richards observed at one stage.”

“You are correct,” the judge replied.

Earlier Wednesday, the jury sent a question to the judge about whether it would be permitted to review video evidence in the courtroom, or in private. The judge, while ruling that the video would have to be viewed in the courtroom — with no others present — added that this was his “nightmare” scenario, where disputes about the video evidence could consume the trial.

The court reconvened after the jury had asked two more questions about reviewing video evidence, focusing on three videos in particular, relating to the shooting of Gaige Grosskreutz (who was armed, and who was wounded and survived).

The prosecutors argued that the jurors should be able to watch videos as many times as they want, while the defense only wanted the jury to be able to watch once, as in court proceedings.

The lawyers argued over the applicable legal precedents, and Judge Schroeder expressed concern that earlier legal problems with the artificial intelligence technology used to enhance zoomed-in video evidence would only be amplified if the jury were able to watch those videos repeatedly.

https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2021/11/17/rittenhouse-prosecutor-we-did-not-alter-the-video-evidence/
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #753 on: November 17, 2021, 08:00:20 pm »
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #754 on: November 17, 2021, 08:03:01 pm »
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« Reply #755 on: November 17, 2021, 08:03:41 pm »
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When you've run out of people to blame...blame Fox News.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #756 on: November 17, 2021, 08:04:13 pm »
So apparently they're still going to punt the question of what to do about the low-res vs. hi-res video since the jury has not (yet?) requested it, presumably in the hopes that they never do request it.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #758 on: November 17, 2021, 08:04:34 pm »
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« Reply #760 on: November 17, 2021, 08:05:21 pm »
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Defense saying they asked for EXACT FORENSIC COPY.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #761 on: November 17, 2021, 08:06:00 pm »
Rittenhouse Jury Asks About Videos; Judge: ‘My Nightmare Has Come True’
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2021/11/17/rittenhouse-jury-asks-about-videos-judge-my-nightmare-has-come-true/
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #762 on: November 17, 2021, 08:10:34 pm »
Rittenhouse Prosecutor: We Did Not Alter the Video Evidence

Joel B. Pollak 17 Nov 2021

The "It was an accident!!" defense.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #763 on: November 17, 2021, 08:13:47 pm »
I don’t understand why it matters if the jury has asked to see it again. They have already seen an exhibit that should not have been entered. The deliberations are already tainted by ever seeing it and it is not being withdrawn now.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #764 on: November 17, 2021, 08:14:10 pm »
Hopefully this is a career-ending exercise for the prosecution.

Are you kidding?  This guy is building up a helluva resume' for a dimocratic U.S Attorney General.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #765 on: November 17, 2021, 08:16:49 pm »
I hate the defense! Why ask for no prejudice!
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #766 on: November 17, 2021, 08:18:31 pm »
I hate the defense! Why ask for no prejudice!

Every Motion for Mistrial I've heard about were "with prejudice."  Is this a third Motion?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #767 on: November 17, 2021, 08:19:00 pm »
The judge does not want to rule on it until the jury asks for it again or comes back with a verdict.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #768 on: November 17, 2021, 08:20:31 pm »
Every Motion for Mistrial I've heard about were "with prejudice."  Is this a third Motion?
The defense said in order to compromise. Compromise with Kyles life in jeopardy makes me sick.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #769 on: November 17, 2021, 08:22:22 pm »
The defense said in order to compromise. Compromise with Kyles life in jeopardy makes me sick.

Me too. That would be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #771 on: November 17, 2021, 08:24:47 pm »

:facepalm2:

Someone needs to call the guys in white suits and straight jackets for Binger.  He has gone insane.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #772 on: November 17, 2021, 08:26:09 pm »
Someone needs to call the guys in white suits and straight jackets for Binger.  He has gone insane.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #773 on: November 17, 2021, 08:30:58 pm »
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Wait .... wasn't Lunchbox just blaming an Android phone for the problem??   :laugh:

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #774 on: November 17, 2021, 08:32:03 pm »
Judge says he has forewarned the prosecution about the problematic nature of the unicorn video, but they continued to press for it and he allowed it.  He says that there is a "day of reckoning" coming about the drone video issue and "it's going to be ugly".
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