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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #700 on: November 17, 2021, 06:16:12 pm »
Quote from: LilLamb on November 17, 2021, 05:58:51 pm
@Killer Clouds

The Wisconsin law on straw purchase says that it’s only a straw purchase if you are buying it for someone who cannot legally possess the gun. Kyle could legally possess the gun, that is why the judge took out the firearm charge. Black did not make a straw purchase.

https://casetext.com/statute/wisconsin-statutes/criminal-code/chapter-941-crimes-against-public-health-and-safety/subchapter-iii-weapons/section-9412905-straw-purchasing-of-firearms
Simply enough: Not a straw purchase, no certification required, no hunter safety required. A nothingburger.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #701 on: November 17, 2021, 06:17:33 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on November 17, 2021, 03:06:15 pm
Honestly....  should have been the course of action a week ago.  Judge gave this joke of prosecution team more leeway (self inflicted rope) than I know I ever would.

Withholding evidence until after closing?  Has that bone headed move ever been used before in a high profile case?
Withholding Brady Material is not only a Felony, but actionable in Civil Court as well.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #702 on: November 17, 2021, 06:37:02 pm »
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #704 on: November 17, 2021, 06:52:37 pm »
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #705 on: November 17, 2021, 06:53:22 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 17, 2021, 05:48:09 pm
Where do you get the "Trained and Certified" crap?
Kindly cite your law, please.
You have to have hunter safety--only if you are hunting. Not for any other use.

You have to be certified for a concealed weapon permit. (Obviously, the rifle was not a concealed weapon so that did not apply).
He was not paid security, but a volunteer, so nope, not required. :shrug:

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Drop it. You are trying to reason with a professional fool,and all you are doing is encouraging him.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #706 on: November 17, 2021, 06:54:55 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on November 17, 2021, 06:53:22 pm
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Drop it. You are trying to reason with a professional fool,and all you are doing is encouraging him.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #707 on: November 17, 2021, 06:57:10 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on November 17, 2021, 06:14:33 pm
The bulk of the AD's (accidental discharges) we had when I was in Iraq in 2003 was because the soldier improperly cleared the weapon and left a round in the chamber after they dropped the magazine

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I saw this happen when one of the regular army soldiers assigned to help SF Training Group by posing as untrained guerillas for the Robin Sage operations showed up without a M-16. He was going out on an ambush,so I lent him my FN-FAL,and damned if he didn't have an AD with it before they even got out of the base camp. It was,of course,loaded with blanks.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #708 on: November 17, 2021, 07:01:56 pm »
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #709 on: November 17, 2021, 07:02:54 pm »
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #710 on: November 17, 2021, 07:03:07 pm »
Heard on top of the hour new that the jury has requested another look at the video and photos.

Judge will allow this in the courtroom.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #711 on: November 17, 2021, 07:04:22 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on November 17, 2021, 06:53:22 pm
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Drop it. You are trying to reason with a professional fool,and all you are doing is encouraging him.

It reminds me a lot of a former Member who claimed he was fond of jazz....
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #712 on: November 17, 2021, 07:05:57 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on November 17, 2021, 07:02:54 pm
By that does he mean with the lawyers in the case, or with lawyers in general?

Don't know for sure .....
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #713 on: November 17, 2021, 07:06:09 pm »
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #714 on: November 17, 2021, 07:06:48 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 17, 2021, 07:04:22 pm
It reminds me a lot of a former Member who claimed he was fond of jazz....

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I kind of miss that one. Dissent should always be welcomed to insure that you are hearing something more than echos,but there are obvious limits to how much BS you are willing to listen to.

This guy could leave and my only response would be a sigh of relief.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #715 on: November 17, 2021, 07:07:17 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on November 17, 2021, 07:03:07 pm
Heard on top of the hour new that the jury has requested another look at the video and photos.

Judge will allow this in the courtroom.
IMO the fact it’s taking them this long cannot bode well for the defense. Can’t help it - when it comes to highly politically charged media driven events I’m used to bad news.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #716 on: November 17, 2021, 07:08:29 pm »
Bam! The state lied!
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #717 on: November 17, 2021, 07:09:35 pm »
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #718 on: November 17, 2021, 07:11:06 pm »
Quote from: Polly Ticks on November 17, 2021, 07:09:35 pm

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1461048752630865922

That's not good - for the prosecution - it means the judge is considering sanctions against the party who tampered with, or lied about, the video, and that would only be the prosecution.  It might also be a prelude to a disciplinary referral against the prosecutors.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #719 on: November 17, 2021, 07:11:32 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on November 17, 2021, 07:07:17 pm
IMO the fact it’s taking them this long cannot bode well for the defense. Can’t help it - when it comes to highly politically charged media driven events I’m used to bad news.

I think, or hope, they are dotting the eyes and crossing the t's for two jurors who want to acquit, but fear for their lives.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #720 on: November 17, 2021, 07:13:37 pm »
They are doubling down still wanting the jury to see it
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #721 on: November 17, 2021, 07:14:28 pm »
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #722 on: November 17, 2021, 07:15:48 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on November 17, 2021, 07:06:48 pm
@Cyber Liberty

I kind of miss that one. Dissent should always be welcomed to insure that you are hearing something more than echos,but there are obvious limits to how much BS you are willing to listen to.

This guy could leave and my only response would be a sigh of relief.

He had broken-recorditis.  Every time he was proven wrong, he just kept repeating the exposed lie until people just gave up on his ass.  When he attacked this Admin the process, the other Admin fried his azz for good.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #723 on: November 17, 2021, 07:16:09 pm »
Judge says he is going to re-open the evidence.  Wow.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Selected – Trial Begins Tuesday
« Reply #724 on: November 17, 2021, 07:17:06 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on November 17, 2021, 07:11:06 pm
That's not good - for the prosecution - it means the judge is considering sanctions against the party who tampered with, or lied about, the video, and that would only be the prosecution.  It might also be a prelude to a disciplinary referral against the prosecutors.

And bump it to the top of the list of reasons for a mistrial, with prejudice.
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