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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #450 on: January 14, 2022, 09:26:01 am »
Standard litigation procedure:  sue all the b*stards and let the judge sort it out.

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« Reply #451 on: January 14, 2022, 11:52:44 am »
More CYA
By ammo supplier is she referring to the cast member/members that the producer Baldwin and armorer-her allowed to be be brought on/kept on set and used in the 'prop' gun for live fire target practice? She's blowin hurricane force smoke out her azz if she thinks she is going to put her and Baldwins incompetence and hazardous set practices off on the manufacturer of actual blank ammunition, it will still come on them if Baldwin went on the cheap and got his blanks from some fly by night company.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #452 on: January 14, 2022, 12:19:54 pm »
By ammo supplier is she referring to the cast member/members that the producer Baldwin and armorer-her allowed to be be brought on/kept on set and used in the 'prop' gun for live fire target practice? She's blowin hurricane force smoke out her azz if she thinks she is going to put her and Baldwins incompetence and hazardous set practices off on the manufacturer of actual blank ammunition, it will still come on them if Baldwin went on the cheap and got his blanks from some fly by night company.

Only a leftist gun-grabber could not spot the difference between a blank and a live round. 

She is blowing smoke, but she also knows she is the designated fall-guy for this. 
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« Reply #453 on: January 14, 2022, 01:37:36 pm »
Only a leftist gun-grabber could not spot the difference between a blank and a live round.

And only a leftist liar would sign out a firearm for live target practice and then complain later that the firearm had been loaded with live ammo.
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« Reply #454 on: January 14, 2022, 02:17:58 pm »
By ammo supplier is she referring to the cast member/members that the producer Baldwin and armorer-her allowed to be be brought on/kept on set and used in the 'prop' gun for live fire target practice? She's blowin hurricane force smoke out her azz if she thinks she is going to put her and Baldwins incompetence and hazardous set practices off on the manufacturer of actual blank ammunition, it will still come on them if Baldwin went on the cheap and got his blanks from some fly by night company.

Yeah all that...

But it STILL boils down to this: If you hand me a gun and tell me it's safe - unloaded or blanks - it is STILL incumbent on me to agree. Which means I have to see for myself. Really and truly, end of story. I don't care who handed him the gun - He did not check when it was handed to him.

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« Reply #455 on: January 14, 2022, 02:20:09 pm »
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If you hand me a gun and tell me it's safe - unloaded or blanks - it is STILL incumbent on me to agree. Which means I have to see for myself.
Especially when a revolver is so easy to check.
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« Reply #456 on: January 14, 2022, 02:23:14 pm »
Yeah all that...

But it STILL boils down to this: If you hand me a gun and tell me it's safe - unloaded or blanks - it is STILL incumbent on me to agree. Which means I have to see for myself. Really and truly, end of story. I don't care who handed him the gun - He did not check when it was handed to him.


Exactly.  It's a nondelegable duty.


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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #457 on: January 14, 2022, 03:02:01 pm »
Yeah all that...

But it STILL boils down to this: If you hand me a gun and tell me it's safe - unloaded or blanks - it is STILL incumbent on me to agree. Which means I have to see for myself. Really and truly, end of story. I don't care who handed him the gun - He did not check when it was handed to him.
Exactly what I have beens saying right along.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #458 on: January 14, 2022, 03:14:38 pm »
Of all the surrounding issues and questions, the only question that matters is "Why did he point the gun at her and fire?" Even if by some one in a million chance the gun misfired while he pointed it at her, why did he ever point the gun at a person? That is a deliberate action. The gun didn't point itself at her. He did that. Why?
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #459 on: January 14, 2022, 03:25:56 pm »
Especially when a revolver is so easy to check.

If you point it straight at your face, you can see 5 of the 6 chambers at a glance.... :shrug:
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #460 on: January 14, 2022, 05:36:15 pm »
Of all the surrounding issues and questions, the only question that matters is "Why did he point the gun at her and fire?" Even if by some one in a million chance the gun misfired while he pointed it at her, why did he ever point the gun at a person? That is a deliberate action. The gun didn't point itself at her. He did that. Why?
Precisely, especially when it should have been common knowledge on the set that this is, in fact, a "real" gun, not just some prop. It was used for recreational shooting off set. As such, there are many failures in this, first that the gun was not completely cleared off set, and that no live ammo should have been on set. Second, the gun should have been checked before it was issued to him (which raises the question of whether it had been, or if it was issued or he just grabbed it). Third, on receipt of the firearm, he, personally, should have verified that it was not loaded with live ammo. If he was at any point unsure of the nature of the ammo in it (blank vs live) he should have consulted with the armorer to verify the nature of that ammo. Fourth, since even blank ammo can cause injury, he never should have pointed the gun at anyone. Fifth, to have failed in the fourth, and to pull the trigger, is an egregious violation of gun handling safety in any venue.

As much anti-gun screed as Mr. Baldwin has subjected the millions of firearm owners who get it right daily, he, of all people, should have exercised the ordinary due caution one would expect of anyone handling firearms.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #461 on: January 14, 2022, 05:48:28 pm »
If you point it straight at your face, you can see 5 of the 6 chambers at a glance.... :shrug:

Ooh! There's a good idea...  :thud:

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #462 on: January 14, 2022, 05:53:49 pm »
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« Reply #463 on: January 14, 2022, 05:57:39 pm »
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Alec Baldwin turns over his phone in ‘Rust’ investigation
Posted on January 14, 2022

Alec Baldwin on Friday handed his cellphone over to authorities investigating the fatal shooting on a movie set last year.

New Mexico police issued a search warrant for the phone Dec. 16, seeking information about the shooting on the set of “Rust” that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.

“Alec voluntarily provided his phone to the authorities this morning so they can finish their investigation,” his attorney Aaron Dyer told NBC News. “But this matter isn’t about his phone, and there are no answers on his phone. Alec did nothing wrong.”

Baldwin, 63, has claimed that he’s cooperated with police throughout the process and never refused to hand over the phone. ...
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #464 on: January 14, 2022, 06:01:38 pm »


She don't know what she's doing... her finger ain't even on the trigger...

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« Reply #465 on: January 14, 2022, 10:31:57 pm »
Yeah all that...

But it STILL boils down to this: If you hand me a gun and tell me it's safe - unloaded or blanks - it is STILL incumbent on me to agree. Which means I have to see for myself. Really and truly, end of story. I don't care who handed him the gun - He did not check when it was handed to him.
Exactly why he can't escape culpability, his job as producer to insure that industry standards and safety practices were followed and his responsibility under those same industry standards that he personally verified the gun unloaded by checking the cylinders and dry firing it into the ground. John Schneider's videos on this really are quite good.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #466 on: January 15, 2022, 09:19:37 am »
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #467 on: January 15, 2022, 11:15:15 am »
Alec Baldwin Shooting Investigation Takes New Twist As Actor’s Cellphone In Custody
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January 15, 2022

The investigation into the shooting on the set of the Alec Baldwin movie “Rust” has taken a new step.

Baldwin, an actor and director on the movie and the man who held the gun as it shot and killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, has finally handed his cell phone over to police, Fox News reported. ...

After Baldwin didn’t immediately hand over the cellphone, the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Department enlisted the help of the Santa Fe District Attorney’s Office and authorities in the state of New York. ...

“The cellphone is believed to be in the actor’s possession, according to the warrant, and authorities want to look at text messages sent from the presumed iPhone by Baldwin,” ABC News reported in December. “Investigators are also seeking to seize photos and videos, emails, internet browser histories, GPS data and more, according to the warrant.” ... Conservative Brief
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #468 on: January 15, 2022, 11:21:34 am »
I'm sure he cleansed the phone of any incriminating evidence, and no law enforcement will bother digging to see what was deleted.
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« Reply #469 on: January 15, 2022, 06:56:46 pm »

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« Reply #470 on: January 15, 2022, 07:55:19 pm »
Is Alec Baldwin prepping an insanity defense…

Citizen Free Press : https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/is-alec-baldwin-prepping-an-insanity-defense/


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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #472 on: January 17, 2022, 09:14:29 am »
What a looney-toon.

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« Reply #473 on: January 17, 2022, 09:37:15 am »
Every time Alec Baldwin stops for a red light, there needs to be a press release.
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« Reply #474 on: January 17, 2022, 10:08:38 am »
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Alec Baldwin is now complaining there is no press coverage that he turned his cell phone over to police — under court ordered search warrant. Also he claims “the Constitution” is why it took him so long (29 days.)
If this idiot has an attorney, what the heck kind of legal advice is he getting?
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« Reply #475 on: January 17, 2022, 10:16:14 am »
If this idiot has an attorney, what the heck kind of legal advice is he getting?

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« Reply #476 on: January 17, 2022, 10:19:31 am »
If this idiot has an attorney, what the heck kind of legal advice is he getting?


My guess is, he's simply ignoring all the advice he's getting, because, well, because he's Alec, and he knows better than everyone else.

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« Reply #477 on: January 25, 2022, 12:42:10 am »

At least her fingers are clear of the trigger...
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« Reply #478 on: February 04, 2022, 11:46:44 am »
Why is this buffoon still roaming free?
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Alec Baldwin chats on his phone while on a coffee run in NYC... a month after he FINALLY turned over his cell to cops investigating death of Halyna Hutchins
By Deirdre Simonds and Jimmy Mccloskey For Dailymail.Com
Published: 16:35 EST, 3 February 2022 | Updated: 16:50 EST, 3 February 2022

 Alec Baldwin was seen chatting on his cell on a coffee run weeks after he turned over the device to police as they investigate the fatal Rust shooting.

While stepping out to pick up some java on Wednesday in New York City, the 63-year-old actor appeared to be deep in conversation on the phone.   

As he braved the cold he held onto a cup carrier, which contained two warmed beverages and an iced drink. ...
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« Reply #479 on: February 04, 2022, 11:56:57 am »
Why is this buffoon still roaming free?Daily Mail

He seems to be doing well.  :silly:

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« Reply #480 on: February 04, 2022, 01:54:32 pm »
Are Penny Loafers making a comeback?
All the cool killers are wearing them.
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« Reply #481 on: February 04, 2022, 02:02:21 pm »
Are Penny Loafers making a comeback?

With inflation, they're now called 'dime loafers'.
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« Reply #482 on: February 15, 2022, 01:47:52 pm »
Alec Baldwin sued by family of late ‘Rust’ cinematographer Halyna Hutchins
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February 15, 2022 1:30pm

Lawyers for Halyna Hutchins’ family filed a wrongful-death suit Tuesday against actor Alec Baldwin, who is accused of fatally shooting the cinematographer on the set of “Rust” nearly four months ago.

The family’s lawyers announced the move during a press conference in Los Angeles.

Baldwin is accused of firing the single bullet that hit and killed Hutchins, then exited her body and struck director Joel Souza in the clavicle while filming the Western flick in New Mexico on Oct. 21. The prop gun was not supposed to be loaded with live rounds. ...

The Hutchins’ family suit is one of now four legal claims filed against Baldwin and “Rust” producers.

Lighting technician Serge Svetnoy, the film’s script supervisor Mamie Mitchell and on-set armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed previously filed their own lawsuits.  ... NY Post
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« Reply #483 on: February 15, 2022, 01:50:54 pm »
We'll see if he has enough money to buy them off.

Either way he's going to be a lot poorer when this is over.

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« Reply #484 on: February 15, 2022, 07:15:41 pm »
Alec Baldwin sued by family of late ‘Rust’ cinematographer Halyna Hutchins

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« Reply #486 on: February 15, 2022, 07:37:37 pm »
Yes I posted it here

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,462180.0.html

Dang. The Post article has a couple others as well, including the gun operation.
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« Reply #487 on: February 18, 2022, 10:10:34 pm »
'Rust' investigation: Alec Baldwin possibly could have fired gun without pulling trigger, Santa Fe DA says

By Julius Young | Fox News 2/18/2022

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/rust-investigation-alec-baldwin-santa-fe-district-attorney

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Santa Fe’s district attorney, Mary Carmack-Altwies, and her team conducted an 'unofficial test' into the actor's claims

The Santa Fe Sheriff’s Office is approaching the four-month mark of its investigation into the circumstances of "Rust" cinematographer Halyna Hutchins’ death on Oct. 21, 2021, in New Mexico, in which authorities are trying to get answers as to how a live round found its way into a prop gun — killing the rising filmmaker and wounding the film’s director Joel Souza.

When the tragedy occurred within a church on the expansive ranch film set, in which a gun held by actor Alec Baldwin discharged the live projectile into Hutchins, 42, and then into Souza, 48, a spokesperson for the film production said filming would be halted and that it would "fully cooperate" with the Santa Fe Police Department’s investigation. They noted the company would also provide counseling services to anyone associated with the production.

Baldwin, who also served as a producer on the Western, would go on to say in a December 2021 sit-down interview that he did not pull the trigger on the firearm supplied by the film’s armorer, Hannah Gutierrez Reed, 24, and that he often replays the moment over and over in his mind.

"Everyone was shocked. The gun was supposed to be empty," he recalled of the incident. "I was told I was handed an empty gun. She goes down, I thought to myself, ‘Did she faint?’"

In a social media video shared to his Instagram last month, Baldwin maintained that "no one wants the truth more than I do" and that he is "very hopeful that the people in charge with investigating this whole thing get to the truth as soon as possible."

Meanwhile, Santa Fe’s district attorney, Mary Carmack-Altwies — who has worked as a public defender and later in a private capacity — spoke with Vanity Fair and told the publication that in her estimation following an "unofficial test" from her team, it is possible for a live round to be discharged from a firearm without the trigger being pulled.

"One of the investigators in my office happens to have a very old type revolver, and so he brought it, at my request, so that we could look at it and see if that was at all possible," she told the outlet, adding that the room was cleared and two independent inspectors looked over the weapon — one who supplied the piece and another who verified it was empty.

"Then they visually showed me you can pull the hammer back without actually pulling the trigger and without actually locking it," Carmack-Altwies explained. "So you pull it back partway, it doesn’t lock, and then if you let it go, the firing pin can hit the primer of the bullet."

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #488 on: February 18, 2022, 10:30:00 pm »
Why speculate?

Use the gun Baldwin used and determine it definitively.

But either way, it was Baldwin's responsibility to check the gun if he was going to allow real guns on set. He was in charge. He was responsible.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #489 on: February 18, 2022, 10:44:59 pm »
Why speculate?

Use the gun Baldwin used and determine it definitively.

But either way, it was Baldwin's responsibility to check the gun if he was going to allow real guns on set. He was in charge. He was responsible.
Unless it was the same model gun as on the set with a transfer bar safety then BS, sounds like someone trying to cover Baldwins @ss. I have read to many statements of experts as well as watched videos of the same exact make and model of the revolver to believe this for one second. And while not a SSA pistol expert Brandon Herrera a weapons builder has a youtube channel where he did a video with the exact manufacturer model as the one that Baldwin used and the only way he could get that gun to fire while pulling the hammer back was to have his finger exerting some pressure on the trigger.


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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #490 on: February 20, 2022, 09:51:25 am »
NM prosecutor on movie set shooting fatality: Alec Baldwin may not have pulled trigger
February 20, 2022 | Ashley Hill

The New Mexico prosecutor investigating the shot fired from the gun in the hands of Alec Baldwin on the set of “Rust” last year may have been swayed by the actor’s December interview with ABC where he claimed that he “didn’t pull the trigger.”

“You can pull the hammer back without actually pulling the trigger and without actually locking it,” Santa Fe District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies told Vanity Fair. “So you pull it back partway, it doesn’t lock, and then if you let it go, the firing pin can hit the primer of the bullet.”

After seeing Baldwin’s interview on ABC the prosecutor set out to unofficially investigate if it was possible for the gun to go off without pulling the trigger as Baldwin had asserted happened although initially, she wasn’t convinced the story had legs.

“I didn’t know too much about guns, certainly not about 1850s-era revolvers. So when I first heard that, I was like, ‘Oh, that’s crazy,’ ”Carmack-Altwies said.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #491 on: February 20, 2022, 09:52:18 am »
Anxious to see what gun owners have to say...
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #492 on: February 20, 2022, 12:37:32 pm »
Anxious to see what gun owners have to say...
First, note they don't say they tried a test with the same manufacturer and model as Baldwin used on the set just an 'old revolver' someone had. This video from Brandon Herrera where he tests an exact make and model as the one on RUST. Advance warning Language!
It is a testament to the hammer bar safety on the pistol that he can beat on the hammer over a loaded chamber and not even budge it, bottom line the only way that pistol could have fired is if Baldwin had his finger exerting pressure on the trigger. I said it before, it looks like the prosecutor is trying to give Baldwin cover in advance and prejudice the results.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #493 on: February 20, 2022, 12:57:18 pm »
Totally nonsense. Just another get out of jail free card for a RICH WHITE CONNECTED HOLLYWOOD UBER-LIBERAL.

Even if they 'allege' the weapon ghost fired by magic, Baldwin still pointed it at her and is therefore liable. Unless they try to say the gun pointed itself at her. Even if she told him to point the gun at her, which is another wildass hairbrained tall tale, he should have said no. Baldwin is trying to say that she 'told' him to shoot her.

Look man, checking the weapon and muzzle awareness are gun safety 101. But Baldwin would not know that because he flat out REFUSED to take the mandatory gun safety courses. Which is just another big indicator of guilt.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #494 on: February 20, 2022, 05:05:30 pm »
“You can pull the hammer back without actually pulling the trigger and without actually locking it,” Santa Fe District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies told Vanity Fair. “So you pull it back partway, it doesn’t lock, and then if you let it go, the firing pin can hit the primer of the bullet.”

So the person who pulled the hammer back part way and then let it go is the same person who fired the the bullet that killed Halyna Hutchins.  Correct?
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #495 on: February 20, 2022, 09:34:15 pm »

So the person who pulled the hammer back part way and then let it go is the same person who fired the the bullet that killed Halyna Hutchins.  Correct?
Exactly.
Why would anyone pull the hammer back on a revolver unless they intend to fire it? Baldwin took the weapon's hammer out of the 'safe' position against the cylinder, into the 'live fire' position by cocking the hammer.

Pulling the trigger, or incorrectly pulling the hammer back (if you believe that stupid story) the result is the same. And both scenarios were caused by the deliberate unsafe actions of Baldwin.

Who pointed the revolver at her while pulling back the hammer? That's the only question.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #496 on: February 20, 2022, 11:25:18 pm »
So the person who pulled the hammer back part way and then let it go is the same person who fired the the bullet that killed Halyna Hutchins.  Correct?
This is true, but also the prosecutor is spreading a ton of manure because the pistol used on set had a transfer bar safety so just dropping the hammer would not in fact cause the gun to fire. Baldwin cannot escape, as producer he was as responsible for safety as the armorer and safety officer on set both of whom he hired on the cheap and industry standards were flagrantly disregarded. Industry standards such as using a rubber gun for shot set ups like the one Baldwin was involve in when he killed her, or like how there was supposed to be bullet proof safety barrier between the crew and a prop gun pointed at the camera. Baldwin should do at least as much time as the officer that mistakenly pulled her gun instead of taser, if nothing else he should be bankrupted and made an industry pariah.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #497 on: February 20, 2022, 11:36:58 pm »
This is true, but also the prosecutor is spreading a ton of manure because the pistol used on set had a transfer bar safety so just dropping the hammer would not in fact cause the gun to fire.

I find it odd that they refer to Mary Carmack-Altwies as "prosecutor" since it is clear by now that she won't be prosecuting Baldwin for anything.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #498 on: February 21, 2022, 07:10:39 am »
“You can pull the hammer back without actually pulling the trigger and without actually locking it,” Santa Fe District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies told Vanity Fair. “So you pull it back partway, it doesn’t lock, and then if you let it go, the firing pin can hit the primer of the bullet.”

Which means YOU SHOT THE FREAKING GUN.

Just how GD complicated IS this?

YOU were the one handling the gun.

YOU were the one that pulled the hammer back and then let go of it.

AND......of KEY importance,YOU WERE THE ONE THAT POINTED THE LOADED GUN AT THE HUMAN THAT DIED AS A RESULT OF YOU LETTING GO OF THE HAMMER AFTER PULLING IT BACK.

THIS means that YOU fired the freaking gun!
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #499 on: February 21, 2022, 07:18:20 am »
BTW,am I the only one laughing at the irony of hard-core gun owners being the ones DEMANDING that Baldwin be prosecuted for murder by using a firearm,and the leftist gun-grabbing goons are the ones defending him and saying he is innocent because "the gun did it"?

Maybe these cretins really DO believe that firearms have a mind and intent of their own to just fire bullets whenever they are pointed at someone?
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