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Biden indicates he would sign reconciliation bill with Hyde amendment
By Morgan Chalfant - 10/05/21 07:44 PM EDT

President Biden indicated Tuesday that he would sign Democrats’ reconciliation bill even if it included the Hyde amendment, a controversial provision that bars federal funds from being used for most abortions.

“I’d sign it either way,” Biden told reporters Tuesday evening when asked if he would sign the bill if the Hyde amendment were included, a demand of Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.). The White House has said that Biden opposes the Hyde amendment.

Manchin’s demand that the amendment be included in the reconciliation package has emerged as a new hurdle in negotiations over the bill.

“Yeah, we’re not taking the Hyde amendment off. Hyde’s going to be on,” Manchin told National Review last week. “It has to be. It has to be. That’s dead on arrival if that’s gone.”

Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), the leader of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said she would not vote for a bill that includes the Hyde amendment.

“The Hyde amendment is something that the majority of the country does not support,” Jayapal said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “One in four women have had an abortion and need to have reproductive care in a very, very important time, when those protections are being rolled back.”

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Re: Biden indicates he would sign reconciliation bill with Hyde amendment
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2021, 01:24:15 am »
Why do these stupid DCP disciples keep spouting the lie that "Most of the country does/does not support....."?

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Re: Biden indicates he would sign reconciliation bill with Hyde amendment
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2021, 02:01:32 am »
Signing it is one thing.   Obeying it is something else.  One cannot provide federal funding to Planned Parenthood without violating the Hyde Amendment.  Yet it happens year after year.
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Re: Biden indicates he would sign reconciliation bill with Hyde amendment
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2021, 06:33:50 am »
Signing it is one thing.   Obeying it is something else.  One cannot provide federal funding to Planned Parenthood without violating the Hyde Amendment.  Yet it happens year after year.
Money is fungible. Every dime PP claims goes toward women's health (exclusive of abortion) or administration costs just frees up other money to continue the slaughter.
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Re: Biden indicates he would sign reconciliation bill with Hyde amendment
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2021, 03:38:04 pm »
Money is fungible. Every dime PP claims goes toward women's health (exclusive of abortion) or administration costs just frees up other money to continue the slaughter.

By that argument, you could cut off all federal funding to Planned Parenthood, and the number of abortions they perform would remain unchanged.  I say we put that premise to the test.

Cut Off funding, and you will see abortion mills all across the country shutting their doors.  Then every taxpayer will know how their tax dollars have been used to murder unborn babies for decades.
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Re: Biden indicates he would sign reconciliation bill with Hyde amendment
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2021, 05:22:52 pm »
Good luck getting that through the House with Jayapal's screaming meemies.
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Re: Biden indicates he would sign reconciliation bill with Hyde amendment
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2021, 05:26:26 pm »
Good luck getting that through the House with Jayapal's screaming meemies.

Good luck getting that through either house with punk-ass Republican cowards afraid to make a stand for the unborn, lest the NARAL crowd say bad things about them.
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Re: Biden indicates he would sign reconciliation bill with Hyde amendment
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2021, 05:34:42 pm »
The rats can say anything they want. Doesn't mean they'll feel obligated to honor their promise.

They know only our side plays by those rules.

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Re: Biden indicates he would sign reconciliation bill with Hyde amendment
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2021, 05:40:11 pm »
By that argument, you could cut off all federal funding to Planned Parenthood, and the number of abortions they perform would remain unchanged.  I say we put that premise to the test.

Cut Off funding, and you will see abortion mills all across the country shutting their doors.  Then every taxpayer will know how their tax dollars have been used to murder unborn babies for decades.

If the voters ever recognize that, they'd know the Hyde Amendment has been treated like a Central Park jogger being "wilded" for decades.  Most do know, they just like it too much.
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Re: Biden indicates he would sign reconciliation bill with Hyde amendment
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2021, 05:58:49 pm »
By that argument, you could cut off all federal funding to Planned Parenthood, and the number of abortions they perform would remain unchanged.  I say we put that premise to the test.

Cut Off funding, and you will see abortion mills all across the country shutting their doors.  Then every taxpayer will know how their tax dollars have been used to murder unborn babies for decades.
I'd be willing to experiment with that. Shut down the tax money pipeline and see just how much effect it has.

Because I think almost all the "Women's Health" they claim to do is basically slaughtering the little ones for the convenience of the bigger ones, so there wouldn't be much left in the $ pipeline to back up for abortions.
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Re: Biden indicates he would sign reconciliation bill with Hyde amendment
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2021, 08:14:36 pm »
Planned Parenthood currently receives hundreds of millions dollars each year from US taxpayers.  Consider how much of that money ends up in the campaign chests of Democrat candidates.  Reason #2 to cut off funding.  Yet Republicans won't do it.

They could have done it in 2017 when they controlled both houses of Congress and the White House.  But Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell actually increased funding.
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