No worries @roamer_1. When I say "evidence" I'm talking about an observation that would lead us as reasoning people to believe something is likely true or at least worthy of further investigation; I'm not talking about a legal standard of evidence. By definition we have to acknowledge that the evidence has not met a legal standard since so many judges and justices saw fit to slam the courthouse door; but to me that demonstrates not a failure of the evidence but a failure of the legal standard. It's not that evidence doesn't exist, it's that the evidence has not been considered.
That is somewhat true
@HoustonSam , but neither here nor there where the rubber meets the road. The only way any of it means anything is by being proven - Till then it is nothing but hearsay in the actual measure of the term, and largely inadmissible, being little more than gossip. The Dominion shtick is an excellent example.
I hasten to add that I do not question your powers of reason most particularly, nor anyone else's hereon. What I question is the veracity of what the right leaning press has been spewing, regardless of the source. If the information is suspect, no amount of reason can rectify that.
With regard specifically to claims about Dominion, personally I don't find those claims believable and consequently I omit them from my examples. That line of assertion only dragged the entire question of election integrity into disrepute and licensed the media to claim that anyone raising questions was a paranoid kook, as the late Rush Limbaugh observed. Let this be an example - we don't effectively advocate for a cause by accepting uncritically any assertion raised on behalf of that cause. In fact we will just as easily harm the cause when we suspend serious thought in favor of tribal cheerleading. This is my fundamental grievance against many of Trump's supporters.
Personally, the Dominion thing served as proof to me that what I had suspected was indeed true - That the right was being manipulated by the right facing press just as much as the left leaning press influences the left. The same propaganda, the same stench of partisanship. I am offended by press that bandies the truth about like so many eggs at the market, with all the skill of a first-time juggler.
I am not watching the Maricopa County audit very closely. If that audit does not come back with credible *additional* evidence of *specific manipulation of votes* - not statistical improbabilities in outcome or questionable actions by authorities but actual evidence that manipulation did in fact take place and evidence of *how* it took place - then this case must be considered closed. It's not enough continually to assert "they must be hiding something!!" - it's time to find what they are hiding and if we can't find it then it doesn't exist.
Oh I am watching it closely alright. But I wholly agree that without it being an unquestionable result, not only in veracity, but in magnitude, then it merely will add to the detritus - to the mountain of flotsam and jetsam that only proves that the right leaning press is no better than the left, that journalism is gone in all the press, and that truth lies dead in the streets.
I am already paying it (the 'news') little mind at all anymore, except where it may prove yet to hold some small kernel of what it is supposed to be. Thus the proof in Maricopa has worth, whichever direction it lands.