Coronavirus cases hit a seven-month low.. BUT CDC expects new COVID surge starting this month

[Wingnut]

This is why people are convinced the "Experts" are FOS!     Two articles back to back!

Coronavirus infections in the U.S. are now at their lowest levels in seven months, thanks to the vaccines.

The big picture: The vaccines are turning the tide in America's battle with the coronavirus. Deaths and serious illnesses have dropped significantly, and now cases are falling too — an important piece of protection for the future, if we can keep it up.

By the numbers: The U.S. averaged about 48,000 new cases per day over the past week.

That’s a 13% improvement over the week before, and it’s the first time since October that average daily cases have dipped below 50,000.
20 states saw fewer new cases over the past week than they did the week before, while outbreaks got bigger in 10 states.
New Jersey saw the biggest improvement over the past week, with a 40% drop in new cases, followed by Connecticut, at 30%.

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-cases-infections-vaccines-variants-cc1d83ed-6523-43d9-9032-91b2ba08cb37.html


But not so fast....


 CDC expects new COVID surge starting this month
Coronavirus cases across the U.S. are likely to peak this month before dropping by July, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Wednesday.

The state of play: America's rate of daily new COVID cases has declined in recent weeks, per data from Johns Hopkins University. Health officials are urging people to remain vigilant as variants spread, some of which are more contagious and deadly than the original strain of the virus.

What they're saying: CDC projections in four different scenarios of vaccination rates and state reopenings show that the outbreak generally remains the same in each forecast.

While cases are expected to spike in May, hospitalizations and deaths will likely remain low nationwide, the agency said. Across all four scenarios, the country's case count is likely to fall in July.
High vaccination rates and adherence to safety protocols "are essential to control COVID-19 and prevent surges in hospitalizations and deaths in the coming months," U.S. health officials wrote in Wednesday's report.

https://www.axios.com/covid-variants-cdc-surge-may-july-25e75c6e-f273-4e3c-98d9-39f404a56fa0.html

[Cyber Liberty]

From the second article:

What they're saying: CDC projections in four different scenarios of vaccination rates and state reopenings show that the outbreak generally remains the same in each forecast.

IOW, the beatings will continue whether you get "the shot" or not.  This will get people signing up, yes.

[PeteS in CA]

Covid-19 computer modeling predictions have been so wonderfully accurate ... in some perpendicular alternate universe.

Coronavirus cases across the U.S. are likely to peak this month before dropping by July, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Wednesday.

So, when the people of the US obstinately refuse to fulfill this prediction, can we also fire these Panic-Porn mongering hacks?!

[mountaineer]

Gee, I'm kinda getting the impression the CDC is dishonest, incompetent and/or deceitful. 

[DB]

Gee, I'm kinda getting the impression the CDC is dishonest, incompetent and/or deceitful. 

Or?

[DefiantMassRINO]

When it comes to Covid-19/SARS-2, there are no experts.  It's too new.

Anyone who is an alleged "expert" is a bloviating fraud.

[skeeter]

Gee, I'm kinda getting the impression the CDC is dishonest, incompetent and/or deceitful. 

It would be much easier to name the federal departments that are not dishonest, incompetent and deceitful.

[mountaineer]

Sarcasm aside, it makes sense to disbelieve anything coming from the feds anymore.

[PeteS in CA]

The curious can find how things are progressing in the US here, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ . Basically, the last week of March and first two weeks of April were a very moderate bump in new cases. Daily new cases have been falling since April 13th.

What's interesting to me is that the March-April new cases bump did not have a corresponding bump in daily deaths. Daily deaths in the US have been flat since around the beginning of April, after a significant plunge that began around January 20th.

I wonder if the CDC Panic-Porn monger-ghouls will get a new cases bump, let alone the new cases surge they hope for. And the same disappointment with regard to daily deaths.

[PeteS in CA]

4 days later, US new cases numbers are still falling. Less than 3 weeks for this surge to begin to fulfill the "CDC experts"' prediction.

[Wingnut]

4 days later, US new cases numbers are still falling. Less than 3 weeks for this surge to begin to fulfill the "CDC experts"' prediction.

They changed "new surge" to "Blips".  I got your blip right here Frauci.

[Smokin Joe]

The curious can find how things are progressing in the US here, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ . Basically, the last week of March and first two weeks of April were a very moderate bump in new cases. Daily new cases have been falling since April 13th.

What's interesting to me is that the March-April new cases bump did not have a corresponding bump in daily deaths. Daily deaths in the US have been flat since around the beginning of April, after a significant plunge that began around January 20th.

I wonder if the CDC Panic-Porn monger-ghouls will get a new cases bump, let alone the new cases surge they hope for. And the same disappointment with regard to daily deaths.

Well, doggone it, they ran out of nursing homes to infect.

[PeteS in CA]

4 days later, US new cases numbers are still falling. Less than 3 weeks for this surge to begin to fulfill the "CDC experts"' prediction.

A week later, US new cases numbers are still falling. Just 13 days left for the experts' prediction.

I wanted a "Panic Porn" graphic, but this was the closest I found:

[Wingnut]

New covid cases are dropping faster than Bill Gates pants.

[PeteS in CA]

New covid cases are dropping faster than Bill Gates pants.

I posted this in another thread, but the peak news cases number was on January 8th, ~304K; yesterday was ~25K, and still falling.

[BassWrangler]

They are making educated guesses based on the data they have, but it's colored heavily by fear of the impact from getting it wrong. So everything takes a back seat to butt covering. You can see this in Fauci's statements - way too conservative in his projections and advice. So ultimately, while they are a good source of info, one should not make policy based solely on what you hear from the CDC.

[Kamaji]

It may be concern about the Indian variant getting a hold here.

[PeteS in CA]

It may be concern about the Indian variant getting a hold here.

As I posted in another thread:

Both Pfizer/BioNtech And Moderna Vaccines Remain Active Against India Variants

https://brief19.com/2021/05/17/brief/both-pfizerbiontech-and-moderna-vaccines-remain-active-against-india-variants

A new study preprinted on biorxiv by researchers at New York University provides good news. While some of the new variants described in India evade, to some degree, the antibodies of patients who have recovered from infection (convalescent plasma), both these antibodies and those derived from fully vaccinated people still appear to function as intended, at least in laboratory settings. To a lesser extent, the study found the same to be true of monoclonal antibodies (i.e. Regeneron's therapeutic compound). These data imply that the new variants, B.1.617 and B.1.618 may be a little more slippery in their ability to wriggle away from natural and vaccine-induced antibodies, but not enough that those antibodies are rendered ineffective. In particular, most people who have recovered from infection or have been vaccinated are likely to have antibodies that are good enough to provide protection (the true clinical effect of the monoclonal antibodies among the "original" or "wildtype" variants remains debated).\ Interestingly, the measured antibody levels among vaccinated persons were about 5 times greater than those found among samples of blood taken from covid-19-recovered persons. This once again demonstrates that vaccines induce a massive antibody response, which is likely what makes them so effective to begin with and also explains in part why they have, so far, been remarkably able to overcome an onslaught variants. That said, the strength of the binding between the B.1.617 variant and vaccine-induced antibodies dropped 4-fold in this laboratory-based study. A 2.7-fold decrease was noted for the B.1.618 variant.

Variants! Variants! Variants!

Wolf! Wolf! Wolf!

I haven't seen anything wrt the J&J or Novavax vaccines and the Indian variant, but aside from that it is known that the J&J, Moderna, Novavax, and Pfizer vaccines all have significant effectiveness against known major variants. Novavax is probably getting close to requesting Emergency Use Authorization from the FDA.

Because AstraZeneca's vaccine isn't effective against the South African variant, I wonder if AZ will request EUA. And if the Indian variants is a further mutation from the South African variant, I doubt they will request EUA. Sanofi has a vaccine about to begin Phase 3 testing, though its effectiveness across multiple variants isn't clear.

[thackney]

It may be concern about the Indian variant getting a hold here.

The COVID-19 variant first identified in India has been found in the US
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/553923-the-covid-19-variant-first-identified-in-india
May 17, 2021

On May 10, the World Health Organization (WHO) classified the coronavirus variant that was first identified in India as a “variant of concern” on a global level. This variant, named B.1.617, is thought to be more easily spread than the original versions of the novel coronavirus, and it has been linked to the current surge of cases in India....

...In April, Tennessee had cases from people who had recently traveled to India, according to The Associated Press (AP)....

...In Iowa, two cases were confirmed in early May, according to the AP. In Nebraska, a case caused by the B.1.617 variant was confirmed last week. The person has links to international travelers, according to the AP.

In Nevada last week, a woman who had not traveled and was not vaccinated tested positive for the B.1.617 variant, according to the AP. Eight other cases were also reported in Nevada....

[libertybele]

Cases here in FL have plummeted and that is with the thousands of new people moving to our state on a weekly basis.

I am suspect of this prediction of a surge.  I am suspect of all the "variants".

If people like Fauci and cronies released the virus on us for their own political gain and agendas, they certainly will do it again.

Otherwise ... why do we need a 3rd shot and more to come?  Meanwhile the drive towards socialism continues while our Republic is dismantled and our economy is destroyed.

It's time for people to wake the heck up!!!!

[PeteS in CA]

Cases here in FL have plummeted and that is with the thousands of new people moving to our state on a weekly basis.

I am suspect of this prediction of a surge.  I am suspect of all the "variants".
...

Aside from a small bump, probably imported by Spring-Breakers from other states, FL's daily new cases have been declining since peaking in early January. The decline was a plummet until flattening more recently.

My opinion is that this prediction will be proven false by reality. That's why I keep bumping this thread, to mock the CDC "experts".

The variants are real enough, because that's what viruses do. But what the MSM bury or leave unsaid is that the Vaccines approved for use in the US are effective against the variants. I'm getting my second Pfizer in a few hours. I've seen no reason to get a booster (if, years from now, one becomes advisable, it would be no different from some other vaccines).

[DefiantMassRINO]

Improving weather, higher vaccination rates ... these attention whores are going to need to manufacture a new crisis to keep our attention.

[BassWrangler]

Improving weather, higher vaccination rates ... these attention whores are going to need to manufacture a new crisis to keep our attention.

I don't think it's going to work. We're into the warm weather months, and the vaccines are working.

[jmyrlefuller]

I was going to say: it's summer. Airborne viruses are seasonal; they always go down in the summer. So for people to predict surges in an environment when it's almost impossible to have a large surge... it's intellectually dishonest.

If they want to be worried, worry about autumn. That will be the true test of these vaccines. If there's another surge like last year, we've wasted our time. I don't think there will be but who knows?

[PeteS in CA]

It's May 28th, still no surge. In fact, per https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ , both daily new cases and daily deaths numbers in the US continue to fall. Unsurprisingly.

What will the new Panic Porn date be for the "experts"' hoped for surge? By the end of June? July? August?

[libertybele]

I was going to say: it's summer. Airborne viruses are seasonal; they always go down in the summer. So for people to predict surges in an environment when it's almost impossible to have a large surge... it's intellectually dishonest.

If they want to be worried, worry about autumn. That will be the true test of these vaccines. If there's another surge like last year, we've wasted our time. I don't think there will be but who knows?

Also the fact that it has finally been reported that one has less that a 1% chance of contracting the virus outside.

So ... the idiots were absolutely wrong to shut down parks and beaches.

The numbers will naturally go up around the same time that flu season usually strikes when colder weather takes hold and more people stay inside. It's a no-brainer.

[Wingnut]

Maskholes are pushing the face diaper now to prevent the "Summer Cold".   Will it never end?

[libertybele]

Maskholes are pushing the face diaper now to prevent the "Summer Cold".   Will it never end?

Pretty much all retailers and grocery stores have taken down their mask mandate signs and replaced with signs that if you are fully vaccinated that you do not need to wear a mask.  Seeing that I am fully vaccinated  ( ) I don't wear one except at  the docs.

I was quite surprised when I walked into the credit union and the gal in front asked if I had a mask, I said I didn't need to wear one, and she handed me one ...  I put it on and as I left the counter took it off and walked off.  How absurd, especially since the gal handing out the masks, didn't have gloves on nor used sanitizer.  So what was the freakin' point?

[Cyber Liberty]

It's May 28th, still no surge. In fact, per https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ , both daily new cases and daily deaths numbers in the US continue to fall. Unsurprisingly.

What will the new Panic Porn date be for the "experts"' hoped for surge? By the end of June? July? August?

Soon the 7-day rolling average of "daily cases" will be so low a 3-Wife Mormon family full of kids in Utah will get all get sick, and will then register as a "Mortal Spike" in the Federal Media.  Film at Eleven.

This is literally squeezing-the-last-molecule-of-water-out-of-a-sponge level of milking a gig.

[libertybele]

Soon the 7-day rolling average of "daily cases" will be so low a 3-Wife Mormon family full of kids in Utah will get all get sick, and will then register as a "Mortal Spike" in the Federal Media.  Film at Eleven.

This is literally squeezing the last molecule of water out of a sponge level of milking a gig.

 

[Smokin Joe]

It's May 28th, still no surge. In fact, per https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ , both daily new cases and daily deaths numbers in the US continue to fall. Unsurprisingly.

What will the new Panic Porn date be for the "experts"' hoped for surge? By the end of June? July? August?

It doesn't matter. All the Greenies tell us the world will end in just ten more years, anyway.

(No wonder so many of today's kids are so effed up. They have been hearing the message of "we're doomed" for their whole lives.)

[BassWrangler]

It doesn't matter. All the Greenies tell us the world will end in just ten more years, anyway.

(No wonder so many of today's kids are so effed up. They have been hearing the message of "we're doomed" for their whole lives.)

Yep, they seem to be moving away from COVID and back to Climate Change.

[DB]

The left has to have its volcanos to throw virgins in... How else can they be chiefs over the peasants with nothing else to offer...

[PeteS in CA]

Still no surge of new cases or of deaths, daily new cases and deaths still falling in the US, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ .

[catfish1957]

The government has conducted a grand experiment on how the best way to control the population.

Now that the disease seems to be subsiding, they are losing their grip, and how better to maintain it?  Keep publicizing some phantom surge in the future.  I think a massive middle finger event needs to be sent to CDC and their masters in the near future.

[catfish1957]

Yep, they seem to be moving away from COVID and back to Climate Change.

Or how all white people are evil 

[jmyrlefuller]

Still no surge of new cases or of deaths, daily new cases and deaths still falling in the US, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ .

Looks like Walensky was wrong again!

[mountaineer]

Yesterday, I had the most bizarre and somewhat disturbing conversation on Twitter with a young reporter (Charleston Daily Mail, liberal rag). I had commented on the WV governor's idiotic plan to give away guns, trucks and money to people who get vaccinated.

ME: Much as I'd love a free gun, I'm not going to expose myself to an unnecessary and potentially harmful vaccine to get it.

HIM: There's a lot to unpack in this tweet.

ME: Not really. Free stuff - whether gun, car or bag of pretzels - is nice, but not when it really isn't free. Surrendering one's  health for a taxpayer-funded trinket is not worth it.

HIM: Stuff for you to unpack:
1. Nearly 2 bil doses have been given worldwide. We're sure it's an incredibly safe vaccine by this point.
2. Guns usually are unnecessary & are potentially harmful. Probability of you dying even accidentally from that gun far exceeds dying from vaccine

ME: Utter nonsense on both points. Here's a journalistic tip: try investigating all sides of an issue. Otherwise, you're just a propagandist.

HIM: What do you think most reporters have been investigating for the past over-a-year, if not COVID-19? Here's a don't be an idiot tip: try not believing every no-name website & social media post you read. Otherwise, you start arguing guns are safe & vaccines aren't.

ME: You're a gullible young fellow, Ryan. That's a shame.

HIM: No, people dying because others aren't getting vaccinated is a shame.

ME: Okay. If that's what you want to believe, keep on doing so. Meanwhile, you might want to check out the Dr. Fauci emails that have been released. Looks like the whole Covid narrative is a lie.


This soyboy believes the news media have "investigated" anything about Covid in the past "over-a-year"? Mindlessly lapping up whatever Fauci says is hardly investigating. Incredible.

[DB]

@mountaineer

Ask the reporter about asbestos and any other number of things that were used for many, many years and thought to be safe. This "vaccination's" long term consequences are simply unknown. It may be fine. It may not be. To claim to know for certain either way is just plain foolish.

It is known that at least 4,000 people of died from the vaccine (as of the last count I remember over the last several months). Have their been 4,000 people killed by gun accidents over the last several months?

[Smokin Joe]

This soyboy believes the news media have "investigated" anything about Covid in the past "over-a-year"? Mindlessly lapping up whatever Fauci says is hardly investigating. Incredible.

Unreal. Neither a scientist nor much of an investigator, probably just rewords the AP feed.

Folks around here had figured out the who, the WHO, that it was a lab construct, and that the measures taken were either outright harmful, denied viable treatments, or were designed to perpetuate suffering, death, and FEAR, for the purpose of control of the masses and to usher in measures which would permit serious and game-changing FRAUD during a national election. While some sources were political in nature (especially the election and the fear and control aspects, they were also obvious to anyone who would look unflinchingly at what was going on.

Pretty sad that he should get a refund and an apology from whatever school where he learned to be an investigative reporter. He got rooked.

[PeteS in CA]

The NYT has issued their Hold My Beer prophecy:

THIS HEADLINE IN THE NYT SEEMS KIND OF HOPEFUL

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/454520/

The South may see a Covid surge this summer as vaccination rates lag. But the NYT has been gleefully predicting mass death for flyover yahoos since the beginning of Covid, even as NYC and New York State remained among the worst places in the country for the disease.

Predictable clASS from the NYT. Between vax rates that are not that far behind NY or an uber-blue West Coast state and those who have immunity from recovery (people the NYT cannot bring itself to admit exist), I think the NYT, like CDC bureaucrats will be severely disappointed. And when summer ends in September, the NYT, like the CDC bureaucrats will have moved on to the next bit of Panic Porn.

[Victoria33]

@Cyber Liberty
@mystery-ak

The "Delta" covid virus is spreading in the UK.  It was called the "India" virus, but they did not want to insult India, so they changed the name to "Delta" a few days ago.  The NHS (National Health Service), is keeping records of how many are going to hospital, and if those numbers go high enough, the full opening of the nation on June 21, will be changed to a later time.

Last Thursday, they had 5,274 more Delta; Friday was 6,238 more Delta, the highest in the last two months.

[DB]

I'm not familiar with this source but it claims to be quoting other established sources:

https://beckernews.com/scientists-believe-they-have-smoking-gun-for-wuhan-gain-of-function-research-causing-covid-19-39560/

[PeteS in CA]

@Cyber Liberty
@mystery-ak

The "Delta" covid virus is spreading in the UK.  It was called the "India" virus, but they did not want to insult India, so they changed the name to "Delta" a few days ago.  The NHS (National Health Service), is keeping records of how many are going to hospital, and if those numbers go high enough, the full opening of the nation on June 21, will be changed to a later time.

Last Thursday, they had 5,274 more Delta; Friday was 6,238 more Delta, the highest in the last two months.

@Victoria33, as I posted before, the UK is not experiencing any kind of surge, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/ . The India or Delta variant (WHO is the "they" that did the name change) may be the current dominant variant in circulation in the UK, but only by supplanting other variants. As for the US, the three vaccines currently in use in the US are already known to be effective against known variants, as is the Novavax vaccine, for which Emergency Use Authorization may soon be requested.

[Victoria33]

@Victoria33, as I posted before, the UK is not experiencing any kind of surge,

@PeteS in CA

My son lives there so you believe whatever you read, I will believe what the NHS tells him every day and what he experiences on the ground.

[Wingnut]

@PeteS in CA

My son lives there so you believe whatever you read, I will believe what the NHS tells him every day and what he experiences on the ground.

As you believed the Fauci lies?

[PeteS in CA]

@PeteS in CA

My son lives there so you believe whatever you read, I will believe what the NHS tells him every day and what he experiences on the ground.

@Victoria33, you want UK government data? Here is the equivalent chart from the UK government, https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases . The charts are the same - if you bother to look at them - because Worldometer's data source is the government of the UK (how weird!). The UK is not experiencing a surge in Covid cases, according to the UK's own published data.

[Victoria33]

@Victoria33, you want UK government data? The UK is not experiencing a surge in Covid cases, according to the UK's own published data.[/color]

@PeteS in CA

A week ago he was admitted to the hospital as an emergency case not related to covid but he was where covid patients go.  He went back there several days later after getting out of hospital for his second covid shot.  He gets first hand knowledge what is happening there due to his connections to news services people, BBC, and others, police and yes, to those who shall not be mentioned.  He is a documentary film producer/director, lived there over 25 years.  I believe him and his connections.  The NHS will re-evaluate where the UK is on June 14, to determine whether or not to open the country on June 21.

[thackney]

@PeteS in CA

A week ago he was admitted to the hospital as an emergency case not related to covid but he was where covid patients go.  He went back there several days later after getting out of hospital for his second covid shot.  He gets first hand knowledge what is happening there due to his connections to news services people, BBC, and others, police and yes, to those who shall not be mentioned.  He is a documentary film producer/director, lived there over 25 years.  I believe him and his connections.  The NHS will re-evaluate where the UK is on June 14, to determine whether or not to open the country on June 21.

@Victoria33

So you believe the data the UK government is reporting is a lie hiding the surge?

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases

[PeteS in CA]

@Victoria33

So you believe the data the UK government is reporting is a lie hiding the surge?

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases

@thackney, for posting the UK government's daily new cases chart. I doubt that @Victoria33 bothered to look at either the Worldometer or UK government webpages, not wanting to see data that contradicts what she wants to be true.