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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2021, 08:10:11 pm »
You w/see some less-than-fervent Republicans primaried out.

Not going to happen... I been screaming 'Throw the bastards out' for a long, long time. Though I pray I live to see the day all y'all actually mean it. and stand up to fight for what you purport to believe in instead of playing team sports, or bowing to fear.

And that ain't said to offend.

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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2021, 08:24:15 pm »
I still think the GOP is the more practical tool to accomplish this objective...but it needs serious overhauling from the ground up.  That's why I ran for the County office that I did.  It's time I took a hand at that tiller, even if it's considered a "small" County not large enough for its own Congressional District.

But if it goes badly, then the GOP may see a County Executive of the Party take a walk.  For me, leaving the GOP is a tad more complicated than changing my voter registration.  :shrug:

That reminds me that I need to change my voter registration. 
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2021, 08:25:47 pm »
That reminds me that I need to change my voter registration.

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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2021, 08:44:01 pm »
:laugh: :beer:

Done.  I am no longer affiliated with any party.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2021, 09:15:26 pm »
Some Twitter chatter on the topic.
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I don't think creating a new party is the right move
Taking over one is
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THANK YOU! I've been saying this since 70% of the GOP base is MAGA. The correct move is to use this strategic position to remove establishment members in Legislature with our populist movement & take over the GOP. 75M are now awake, now its time we go to work.
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« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2021, 09:29:43 pm »
Some Twitter chatter on the topic.

Exactly. If you are stranded on an island and you see a boat offshore,  do you build a new boat or do you get on the boat that's already there?

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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2021, 10:16:29 pm »
So much hope and energy, too bad it was insufficient this last election, eh?  Trump is old, so am i.  Good luck for some day, if the nation can hold together that long.  The futility of getting people to see sense is disturbing, now.
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« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2021, 10:25:27 pm »
Exactly. If you are stranded on an island and you see a boat offshore,  do you build a new boat or do you get on the boat that's already there?

Depends, I'd say, on if you can swim  :shrug:

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« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2021, 10:31:15 pm »
Exactly. If you are stranded on an island and you see a boat offshore,  do you build a new boat or do you get on the boat that's already there?

I say you build a new boat, because you know exactly how it is built and what it is built with to ensure that it is seaworthy.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2021, 01:10:46 am »
mountaineer wrote:
"Yes, thank goodness we have such strong willed warriors as McConnell and Graham to lead the way in the fight against creeping Marxism."

Marxism it is.
But it ain't "creeping" no more.
It's full-speed ahead from today onward... 1917 all over again...

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« Reply #60 on: January 21, 2021, 01:19:42 am »
I say you build a new boat, because you know exactly how it is built and what it is built with to ensure that it is seaworthy.
You and I are in complete agreement. It has been a long road to get to here, but I now believe there is no redeeming the GOP, not only has it been part of the problem, it is no longer an effective force in government - it exists now only to provide cover for the statists, to lend to the facade of a republic.

I’m not surrendering, I’m just acknowledging that the weapons we’ve been given with which to fight have had their firing pins and breech blocks removed, and will not shoot.
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« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2021, 01:20:09 am »
Lot's of talk and speculation about the President forming a new party, running for political office, etc.

I say that's all it is.  My bet is he's not going to do either.  Don Jr. might or someone else that Trump backs...but I don't think Trump himself will.

IF Trump was about 10 years younger, I'd say perhaps all the talk and speculation of him running for office might be plausible.  At age 74 I think he's going to call it quits.

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« Reply #62 on: January 21, 2021, 01:26:16 am »
You and I are in complete agreement. It has been a long road to get to here, but I now believe there is no redeeming the GOP, not only has it been part of the problem, it is no longer an effective force in government - it exists now only to provide cover for the statists, to lend to the facade of a republic.

I’m not surrendering, I’m just acknowledging that the weapons we’ve been given with which to fight do not shoot.

The sooner people acknowledge that the GOP is dead and there's nothing left to fight with, the better. 

Never surrender.  Regroup and recalculate how to win!  I believe right now that's what our focus needs to be.  How do 75+ million people win? 

BUT, and this I feel is important; Just remember, 75 million sounds like a lot but amnesty is being granted to over 11,000,000 which will quickly multiply when there families join them.  Then there's the refugees that will be granted status and within 5 years they will be eligible for citizenship.

So ... we WILL be outnumbered.  So, I don't know if what we are hoping for is even a reality.
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« Reply #63 on: January 21, 2021, 01:42:32 am »
I think the beginning of the article is pretty telling:

President Trump has talked in recent days with associates about forming a new political party, according to people familiar with the matter, an effort to exert continued influence after he leaves the White House.

Sorry folks, but IMHO this is nothing more than a rumor.  In an effort to exert continued influence?  Do you really think he wants that headache? 

He's looking at lawsuits, and the threat of going to jail.  Think again.  Just my opinion.
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« Reply #64 on: January 21, 2021, 01:49:55 am »
I think the beginning of the article is pretty telling:

President Trump has talked in recent days with associates about forming a new political party, according to people familiar with the matter, an effort to exert continued influence after he leaves the White House.

Sorry folks, but IMHO this is nothing more than a rumor.  In an effort to exert continued influence?  Do you really think he wants that headache? 

He's looking at lawsuits, and the threat of going to jail.  Think again.  Just my opinion.

Trump understands this:  The best defense is a strong offense.  Don't expect him to go quietly into the good night.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #65 on: January 21, 2021, 04:19:31 am »
I think the beginning of the article is pretty telling:

President Trump has talked in recent days with associates about forming a new political party, according to people familiar with the matter, an effort to exert continued influence after he leaves the White House.

Sorry folks, but IMHO this is nothing more than a rumor.  In an effort to exert continued influence?  Do you really think he wants that headache? 

He's looking at lawsuits, and the threat of going to jail.  Think again.  Just my opinion.

Just a thought, but if he wanted to go silently into the night he would have given himself a pardon. He knows he hasn't done anything wrong and he's willing to fight. He's a shark. He has to keep moving forward or he dies.
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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #66 on: January 21, 2021, 04:25:30 am »
Perhaps amnesia is the problem.  Any country can vote socialism/
Communism, it takes a gun to change out from it.  Socialist/Communist recognized that a long time ago, that's why they move quickly to remove freedom of speech and impose gun control.  That's for those of you very ignorant of how this works and those willfully blind.  Communist ARE WILLING TO TEACH YOU BUT IT TAKES A VERY HIGH STACK OF BODIES the way they teach.  (fools wouldn't have it any other way).

As people still take the advice of those that advocated the defeat of Trump.  Expecting to solve this problem from those that took part in causing it.  It's a horse laugh for those standing on the side lines.
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« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2021, 04:40:57 am »
Trump understands this:  The best defense is a strong offense.  Don't expect him to go quietly into the good night.

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« Reply #68 on: January 21, 2021, 10:50:34 am »
Not going to happen... I been screaming 'Throw the bastards out' for a long, long time. Though I pray I live to see the day all y'all actually mean it. and stand up to fight for what you purport to believe in instead of playing team sports, or bowing to fear.

And that ain't said to offend.
I have been saying throw them out since the "them" for this state in DC were Democrats.

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Re: Trump Discusses New ‘Patriot Party’ As Republicans Capitulate
« Reply #69 on: January 21, 2021, 02:56:00 pm »
Maybe there is some validity to this?   .... another news source reporting

.........On Tuesday, reports said the President discussed forming a so-called “Patriot party” with some of his top aides and supporters. Traditionally, third parties have failed to gain steam in challenging both the Democrat and Republican parties. However, due to his large base of supporters and the record number of people who voted for him in 2020, many believe President Trump has what it takes to carry on the movement.

According to Politico, he spent days calling his close advisors to ask what he needs to do to “stay part of the conversation.” In his ‘farewell address,’ the President hinted at his future political career by saying the ‘MAGA movement’ is only just beginning......

https://www.oann.com/report-president-trump-considers-forming-patriot-party/
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« Reply #70 on: January 21, 2021, 03:28:07 pm »
Some (unidentified) opportunist has created a Patriot Party persona on Twitter. So far, it seems to be a money-making venture. Buy the T-shirt!

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« Reply #71 on: January 21, 2021, 03:29:20 pm »
The GOP is old, tired, out of touch and out of ideas. it is ripe for a takeover.

It will take too much time to get a new party up and running.

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« Reply #72 on: January 21, 2021, 03:30:53 pm »
First order of business: elect actual conservatives to state legislatures, AG and Secretary of State positions - and demand they prohibit the type of election shenanigans we saw in November.

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« Reply #73 on: January 21, 2021, 04:21:51 pm »
First order of business: elect actual conservatives to state legislatures, AG and Secretary of State positions - and demand they prohibit the type of election shenanigans we saw in November.

Gee, that somehow sounds so familiar. Here, have some TEA...

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« Reply #74 on: January 21, 2021, 06:28:24 pm »
First order of business: elect actual conservatives to state legislatures, AG and Secretary of State positions - and demand they prohibit the type of election shenanigans we saw in November.

I agree with you absolutely.  The problem has always been though not enough true conservatives running to fill those positions.  Local level as well.

Ultimately finding younger true conservatives to run would be the best case scenario. One of the local universities around here at one time had a Young Republican's Club that was very active. But after several years it died out.

IMHO the key to ending this liberal takeover is getting conservative leadership on the school boards and changing education to include conservatism; teaching true American history, American government and mandate graduation requirements to include a semester on the U.S. Constitution.

Unfortunately, this will take decades and I doubt I'll be around to see it should it be successful.

Forming a new party from the ground up I don't think will work (just my opinion); but will work would be rather infiltrating the DEM party with true conservatives that will operate under the DEM umbrella but vote conservatively.

The other problem of course is the SCOTUS being packed with liberals.

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