Tucker Issues a Warning... About a Potential President AOC?

[goatprairie]

Here's the problem: there is no contract involved here, and the case is not analogous to, or judicially remediable under the terms of contract law. 

Instead, this is a matter of state procedural rules, and those are governed not by the Federal Constitution, but by state law.

Thus, it is the duty of state Attorneys General to bring suit (or not) to ensure that the duties of state officials were faithfully executed.

This is a state issue, like it or not, because the Constitution of the United States does not mandate procedures to be promulgated or enforced by the elected or appointed officials of each state. As long as the procedures themselves are not in conflict with the Constitution, as to due process or other incorporated rights, the Supreme Court has no power of judicial review over them.

Look - in case there's any question (and I would assume there is none), I voted for Donald Trump and wanted him to win. The fact that dirty deeds were done (and they damn well were) is a miserable artifact of multi-generational, one-party power in highly populated urban districts. That problem will not be solved by Federal judicial intervention in an issue that needs to be addressed by cultural and social influence at the state and local level.

If you agree with me that Progressivism is a cancer on our body politic, that corruption is their ally, chaos their means, and control over your life their end, then you must be prepared to get involved personally, because that is how we will defeat the disease. Go to your town and school board meetings. Ask hard questions and prepare to be challenged. Know your reasons and your answers. And do not be afraid.

All real change comes from the bottom-up. Top-down is for collectivists and their elitist masters.

We can win. But we need to look to ourselves first, to fight.

[XenaLee]

Great. Good to know you like some states interfering with what other states do regarding elections. Then the next time Pubbies win an election, you'll be happy when a liberal state steps in and interferes with a state the Pubbies won because the liberal state didn't like something the conservative state did.
Just admit you'd be doing a political 180 if that occurred. Then you'd be screaming that it's none of the liberal state's business what the conservative state did.
Do you realize what a can of worms you'd have opened if states were allowed to interfere with the election processes of other states?
You're being conned by sore loser Trump and his legal flunkies.

No, I'm not being conned by anyone.   And you are apparently quite content if/when other states blatantly violate the US Constitution and rampantly cheat in US presidential elections.   Shows who/what you are pretty clearly.

And for the record, it wouldn't be the states 'interfering' if things worked as they should.  It would be the US Supreme Court forcing those other states to adhere to and uphold the Constitution.  (duh)

[goatprairie]

States are not allowed to interfere with another state's election processes.  Each state has it's own set of election laws, BUT each state MUST also abide by the laws set forth by the Constitution.  If they don't then they are denying each and every one of us a fair election.

The SCOTUS completely ignored the impact of a "rigged" election by various different states on every single one of us.

Well alright, the SC rules, in violation of probably every ruling concerning states and other states in American legal history, that somehow Pennsylvania violated Texas's rights and invalidates Pennsylvania's election forcing a revote which will cost the state millions of dollars which will still result in  a Biden victory.
Or they rule that Texas was wronged so badly they rule that Trump won Pennsylvania and their twenty or so electoral votes.
Guess what?....Trump still loses the general election.

[libertybele]

Well alright, the SC rules, in violation of probably every ruling concerning states and other states in American legal history, that somehow Pennsylvania violated Texas's rights and invalidates Pennsylvania's election forcing a revote which will cost the state millions of dollars which will still result in  a Biden victory.
Or they rule that Texas was wronged so badly they rule that Trump won Pennsylvania and their twenty or so electoral votes.
Guess what?....Trump still loses the general election.

No.  You missed the point -- the "corruption" that took place in PA and other states impacted each and every one of us.

This was absolutely NOT about over turning the election, but merely, requiring states to adhere to the Constitution -- the SCOTUS in essence ruled against states complying with the rule of law; the U.S. Constitution! 

I have a definite problem with that. 

The U.S.A. no longer has a fair electoral process making us just like a Banana Republic.

[Cyber Liberty]

It's fascinating...

Folks who never liked Trump are outraged at the SCOTUS letting the cheating States off the hook, while others who claimed they like some of the things Trump does, but criticize him almost all the time, are absolutely fine that Biteme stole the election, and we should all just suck it up.

The President is not the only one discovering who his friends are not.  So are the rest of the patriots.

[HoustonSam]

The President is not the only one discovering who his friends are not.

I consider myself a friend of the Constitution; in this instance I think it's on Trump's side and I hope I can be fair-minded enough to distinguish my evaluation of one from my evaluation of the other.

[Cyber Liberty]

I consider myself a friend of the Constitution; in this instance I think it's on Trump's side and I hope I can be fair-minded enough to distinguish my evaluation of one from my evaluation of the other.

You are a consistent thinker.  If I disagree with you on something, I can always find something in your post to agree with, because I can see how you got there using reasoning.  One of the things I like about you.

[Fishrrman]

This seems to be the briefingroom's "debate thread of the night".

But it doesn't matter now, especially in view of what Andy58 said:
"The election is over".

Over it may be, but we must realize that it could be a long time before we see a truly "fair" national election again.

The communists (no point in calling them "democrats" any longer) have succeeded in constructing a number of "underground election apparati" that can be used to subvert, control and manipulate the vote to their specifications. This isn't just one "apparatus" -- it was the technique of Soviet-led communists in the 30s', 40's and 50's to establish "parallel" apparati", so that if one was discovered or shut down, the others could continue unabated. Seldom did one of them even know of the others -- to do so would be a breach of party discipline.

As I've mentioned in previous posts, a particular apparatus might be comprised of both "electronic capabilities" (such as the issue of Dominion machines "switching" votes) and more old-fashioned "hardware capabilities" (the ability to mass-produce ballots in advance of the election).

Back in earlier days, it was the Soviets who built and ran "the apparatus".
They're gone, so who does that leave to fill the void?
I've come to believe that the Chinese communist party has a much larger influence and infiltration here than we realize. That "list of 2 million names" in the news today may have some interesting revelations on it.

Combine this with an American CP that went underground back in the late 70's, and succeeding generations who have been groomed to keep their true political beliefs hidden. (who really paid for obama's education?)

I'm wondering if the incoming harris-biden regime is gonna make the obama regime look almost tame by comparison?

This is no longer "the deep state".
Those guys are gonna be ushered out sooner rather than later.
Before too long, it will be "the socialist state".
And then...?

[skeeter]

No, I'm not being conned by anyone.   And you are apparently quite content if/when other states blatantly violate the US Constitution and rampantly cheat in US presidential elections.   Shows who/what you are pretty clearly.

And for the record, it wouldn't be the states 'interfering' if things worked as they should.  It would be the US Supreme Court forcing those other states to adhere to and uphold the Constitution.  (duh)

Bless your heart for trying. I’m not interested in arguing with people who care only about who’s ox is getting gored and give not a rats ass about the implications for the nation or about right or wrong, for that matter.

[Cyber Liberty]

Bless your heart for trying. I’m not interested in arguing with people who care only about who’s ox is getting gored and give not a rats ass about the implications for the nation or about right or wrong, for that matter.

See this post, just a couple upthread.  It applies to those telling us all to suck it up, Biteme wins:

It's fascinating...

Folks who never liked Trump are outraged at the SCOTUS letting the cheating States off the hook, while others who claimed they like some of the things Trump does, but criticize him almost all the time, are absolutely fine that Biteme stole the election, and we should all just suck it up.

The President is not the only one discovering who his friends are not.  So are the rest of the patriots.

[XenaLee]

Bless your heart for trying. I’m not interested in arguing with people who care only about who’s ox is getting gored and give not a rats ass about the implications for the nation or about right or wrong, for that matter.

I have to be in the mood to deal with them.  Otherwise, I'd just tell them to go to hell...lol.

[Wingnut]

Did you know you can not say *uck or say *uck Tucker er  never mind/.

[skeeter]

See this post, just a couple upthread.  It applies to those telling us all to suck it up, Biteme wins:

I cannot fathom how the implications for the future, never mind Trump, of what happened last month continues to elude some here. Have no idea where they’re coming from.

[libertybele]

It's fascinating...

Folks who never liked Trump are outraged at the SCOTUS letting the cheating States off the hook, while others who claimed they like some of the things Trump does, but criticize him almost all the time, are absolutely fine that Biteme stole the election, and we should all just suck it up.

The President is not the only one discovering who his friends are not.  So are the rest of the patriots.

Trump has/had very few allies and really made some very poor choices; but the recent ruling by the SCOTUS I'm sure was a shock to him as it was to most of us.  Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are disappointments and to think that Trump appointed Barrett and the Senate came together and pushed her through in record time only to discover that the push didn't accomplish much is really sad. 

Prayers up for President Trump. I can only imagine how devastated he is.  Ironically, I believe his one true ally has been Ted.

[libertybele]

I have to be in the mood to deal with them.  Otherwise, I'd just tell them to go to hell...lol.

 

[Cyber Liberty]

I cannot fathom how the implications for the future, never mind Trump, of what happened last month continues to elude some here. Have no idea where they’re coming from.

It makes sense when you consider they're close Biden supporters who want to get rid of the Bad Orange Man at any cost, the Republic be damned.