Why does anyone need a vaccine for a disease with a 99.6 percent recovery rate?

[Blutarsky]

The death rate for Ebola is 90 percent or 90 dead out of 100 infected
The death rate for Polio was 15 percent or 15 dead out off 100 infected
The death rate for covid 19 is 0.4 percent or no deaths out of 100 infected with 1 person severely sick

Also over 85 percent who are infected have no symptoms

Better yet Pfizer does not claim that their vaccine is 90 percent effective in preventing the disease, they claim that the vaccine is 90 percent effective in preventing symptoms. (to prevent liability when people who get the vaccine die and their families sue)

(((Link below)))

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VooJ4jhPXY&t=33s

Argue all you want but this lady knows her stuff

[Bigun]

Why does anyone need a vaccine for a disease with a 99.6 percent recovery rate?

I have asked that very same question many times on this forum and many others.

[skeeter]

My daughter has the Vid. Six months ago one would get beat up pretty roundly here for suggesting Covid was like the flu.

Turns out its like the flu.

[Blutarsky]

My daughter has the Vid. Six months ago one would get beat up pretty roundly here for suggesting Covid was like the flu.

Turns out its like the flu.

In 99.6 percent of humans the flu is far more dangerous than covid

[Cyber Liberty]

In 99.6 percent of humans the flu is far more dangerous than covid

Correct.  More evidence this COVID business is crap, and isn't really about the disease.  It's about controlling the population as it's never been done before (in the US of A).

I consider "masks" to be just training bras for Burkas.  They're symbols of submission.

[Blutarsky]

Correct.  More evidence this COVID business is crap, and isn't really about the disease.  It's about controlling the population as it's never been done before (in the US of A).

I consider "masks" to be just training bras for Burkas.  They're symbols of submission.

Correct, but if you want to find this kind of mind control used continuously just look to China or N Korea

LOL Burkas were designed to hide Mohammed's camel bride


Edited by Mod2 to resize photo.

[Cyber Liberty]

Correct, but if you want to find this kind of mind control used continuously just look to China or N Korea

And any "Islamic" country.  If a woman goes around with at least a Hijab, that's license for any man to throw battery acid on her face.

[Blutarsky]

And any "Islamic" country.  If a woman goes around with at least a Hijab, that's license for any man to throw battery acid on her face.

Sad but who wants to see Muhammad's camels faces anyway.

[Cyber Liberty]

Sad but who wants to see Muhammad's camels faces anyway.

Sometimes the goat-humpers have to look when they're shaving their wifes' backs and breasts.

[Bigun]

Sad but who wants to see Muhammad's camels faces anyway.

It's perfectly obvious to me that you have never been on a flight departing Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, or any other place in the region.  If you had you definitely would not be saying that at all! 

When that seat belt light goes out there is a mad dash to the onboard restrooms and what comes out from under those things is often anything but a camel's face be it Muhammad's or otherwise.

[libertybele]

Correct.  More evidence this COVID business is crap, and isn't really about the disease.  It's about controlling the population as it's never been done before (in the US of A).

I consider "masks" to be just training bras for Burkas.  They're symbols of submission.

I've known a few people with COVID -- some got over it fairly easily and others hospitalized; so I have no doubt that there are different strains -- so, who knows what vaccine is going to work for which strain.  A couple of us have stated this before.

Yes, bottom line is that COVID is being used to control the populace. Absolutely no doubt about it.  Most of us are much wiser.  It was/is imperative in order for that control to continue that Sloe Joe, the Chinese's lap dog is put into the oval office.  I still believe that U.N. troops are waiting in the wings for the takedown of our Republic.

[dfwgator]

It's perfectly obvious to me that you have never been on a flight departing Saudi Arabia.  If you had you definitely would not be saying that at all! 

When that seat belt light goes out there is a mad dash to the onboard restrooms and what comes out from under those things is often anything but a camel's face be it Muhammad's or otherwise.

Also, the Saudi men will proceed to empty the plane of all liquor, and when that plane lands in a non-Muslim country, they make a bee-line for the Nudie Bar.

[Bigun]

Also, the Saudi men will proceed to empty the plane of all liquor, and when that plane lands in a non-Muslim country, they make a bee-line for the Nudie Bar.

LOL!  One Christmas eve, while I was living in Saudi Arabia there, there came a knock at my door at around 8:30 PM. When I answered the door there was one of my young Saudi engineers standing there. He smiled, said Merry Christmas in perfect English, handed me a paper sack, And turned to walk away as I said thank you!  Inside the sack was two one-liter bottles of some very fine single malt Scotch whiskey.  That young man now owns a string of department stores in the Kingdom.

[Blutarsky]

It's perfectly obvious to me that you have never been on a flight departing Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, or any other place in the region.  If you had you definitely would not be saying that at all! 

When that seat belt light goes out there is a mad dash to the onboard restrooms and what comes out from under those things is often anything but a camel's face be it Muhammad's or otherwise.

Are you saying that women who had their vaginas partly removed are attractive?

You can have them all, have fun being their master

[Cyber Liberty]

Are you saying that women who had their vaginas partly removed are attractive?

You can have them all, have fun being their master

At times like this I'm glad I married a Dane.   

[Bigun]

Are you saying that women who had their vaginas partly removed are attractive?

You can have them all, have fun being their master

Yes! I'm saying that many of them are quite attractive to look at but I have been married to the same great lady for 53 years now and had no interest other than looking at them.

[Blutarsky]

Yes! I'm saying that many of them are quite attractive to look at but I have been married to the same great lady for 53 years now and had no interest other than looking at them.

All yours, but just in case bring a good exorcist

[bigheadfred]

All yours, but just in case bring a good exorcist

Never leave home without one even if you are one.

[sneakypete]

Because sheeple need to be identified and herded,and forcing them to wear a mask helps them to identify themselves as herd members.

[Blutarsky]

Sometimes the goat-humpers have to look when they're shaving their wifes' backs and breasts.

If you continue badmouthing Oboobas ISIS brothers, I will be forced to report you to an administrator.

So that you get an extra helping of turkey, stuffing and cranberries.

Happy Thanksgiving to you too

[Blutarsky]

Because sheeple need to be identified and herded,and forcing them to wear a mask helps them to identify themselves as herd members.

God bless you and yours and Happy Thanksgiving

[Cyber Liberty]

If you continue badmouthing Oboobas ISIS brothers, I will be forced to report you to an administrator.

So that you get an extra helping of turkey, stuffing and cranberries.

Happy Thanksgiving to you too

And to you as well!  As messed up as this year has been, I can be thankful for living through it....

 

[Blutarsky]

And to you as well!  As messed up as this year has been, I can be thankful for living through it....

 

LOL you lived thru the common cold

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/common_cold_causes

You know the drill. Your throat feels scratchy, you start sneezing and coughing, and pretty soon you're in the grip of a nasty cold. To add insult to injury, all that big-time misery is from a tiny invader -- a living thing called a virus.

And it's not just one you need to dodge. There are more than 200 that can lay you low.

It's likely that someday you'll have a close encounter with one of these types:

Rhinovirus
Coronavirus
RSV and parainfluenza

I used to say that not everything on TV was real, but had to update that to nothing on TV is real.

Remember the path

[Cyber Liberty]

LOL you lived thru the common cold

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/common_cold_causes

You know the drill. Your throat feels scratchy, you start sneezing and coughing, and pretty soon you're in the grip of a nasty cold. To add insult to injury, all that big-time misery is from a tiny invader -- a living thing called a virus.

And it's not just one you need to dodge. There are more than 200 that can lay you low.

It's likely that someday you'll have a close encounter with one of these types:

Rhinovirus
Coronavirus
RSV and parainfluenza

I used to say that not everything on TV was real, but had to update that to nothing on TV is real.

Remember the path

2020 was messed up in more ways than the make-believe COVID panic.  We had the sham Impeachment, then months of riots.

I'm just happy to be retired, in a small Castle out of the big city, and into a smallish city in the far northwest corner of AZ.  Beautiful views all around, and the Castle has a plus feature I like:  A full bar with a Kegerator for my draft beer.

Castillo del Cyber:



The Castle Living Room/Bar:



A Sunset View:



Yes...the Cybers are very thankful!

[Blutarsky]

2020 was messed up in more ways than the make-believe COVID panic.  We had the sham Impeachment, then months of riots.

I'm just happy to be retired, in a small Castle out of the big city, and into a smallish city in the far northwest corner of AZ.  Beautiful views all around, and the Castle has a plus feature I like:  A full bar with a Kegerator for my draft beer.

Castillo del Cyber:



The Castle Living Room/Bar:



A Sunset View:



Yes...the Cybers are very thankful!

The castle is nice, but the 110 degree sun, well you can have all of that.

[Cyber Liberty]

The castle is nice, but the 110 degree sun, well you can have all of that.

110 degrees?  LOL!  It's hotter here than in Phoenix.  it was >110 for 3-4 months straight, many >115 and a few >120.

But it is dryer here, too.  Phoenix is in the Sonoran Desert, the Castle is in the Mojave Desert.....

Did I mention it has a Bar?  I just picked up a fresh keg of Shock Top Tuesday.

Yes, I am blessed and grateful!

[Bigun]

Expert: "Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary."

A closer look at U.S. deaths due to COVID-19

[Blutarsky]

110 degrees?  LOL!  It's hotter here than in Phoenix.  it was >110 for 3-4 months straight, many >115 and a few >120.

But it is dryer here, too.  Phoenix is in the Sonoran Desert, the Castle is in the Mojave Desert.....

Did I mention it has a Bar?  I just picked up a fresh keg of Shock Top Tuesday.

Yes, I am blessed and grateful!

115 degrees fries the brain in 30 seconds.

[Blutarsky]

Expert: "Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary."

A closer look at U.S. deaths due to COVID-19

Thank you................................................

Nice to know there are still normal people left

[Bigun]

Thank you................................................

Nice to know there are still normal people left

I am a 72-year-old combat veteran who stopped believing anything the media told me about three days after returning home from Vietnam and watching Walter Cronkite on the evening news.

[The_Reader_David]

Why?  Because we're old or have type A blood or some other risk factor that means our chance of recovery is much lower than 99.6%.  (Note the first person plural pronouns there.)  As for the rest of the population, why do many people want the seasonal flu vaccine?

[sneakypete]

2020 was messed up in more ways than the make-believe COVID panic.  We had the sham Impeachment, then months of riots.

I'm just happy to be retired, in a small Castle out of the big city, and into a smallish city in the far northwest corner of AZ.  Beautiful views all around, and the Castle has a plus feature I like:  A full bar with a Kegerator for my draft beer.

Castillo del Cyber:



The Castle Living Room/Bar:



A Sunset View:



Yes...the Cybers are very thankful!

@Cyber Liberty

No machine gun towers or cannons?

[sneakypete]

I am a 72-year-old combat veteran who stopped believing anything the media told me about three days after returning home from Vietnam and watching Walter Cronkite on the evening news.

@Bigun

Yeah.............

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty

No machine gun towers or cannons?

@sneakypete

Not that anybody knows about.   

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

Not that anybody knows about.   

@Cyber Liberty

With all that high ground,a fully-equipped mortar pit would be a mighty handy thing to have,too.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty

With all that high ground,a fully-equipped mortar pit would be a mighty handy thing to have,too.

Yeah, I like the high ground.  From my upper deck I can reach out and touch somebody on three of the four sides.  It's a steep climb up the rocks at the top, so paths of entry to the Castle are extremely limited.  I don't need a moat.

[PeteS in CA]

1. Death is not the only concern.

2. I'm over 60.

3. My health is not perfect or even average.

4. How does my choice of risk handling such a threat to the Blutos of this world that they need to challenge my judgment? The mirror image of a Karen is still a Karen.

[Knox27]

I'm very happy a vaccine is imminent.  My parents are elderly.  We should marvel at what a concerted effort by scientists can do. 

[Bigun]

I'm very happy a vaccine is imminent.  My parents are elderly.  We should marvel at what a concerted effort by scientists can do.

I'm happy for anyone who wishes to take that vaccine to do so and hope that they will grant those of us who don't that same courtesy.  Whether they do or not, I'm not going to take it. Period.

[Knox27]

I'm happy for anyone who wishes to take that vaccine to do so and hope that they will grant those of us who don't that same courtesy.  Whether they do or not, I'm not going to take it. Period.

That sounds fair to me

[Gefn]

@Cyber Liberty

No machine gun towers or cannons?

No, he has kitties. That will nibble all ankles and kill with cuteness. You have been warned. Lol.

But @Cyber Liberty you could always through old cat litter bombs from castle walls instead of rocks and stuff like they did in medieval times. I bought this scoop away stuff you put in the litter box which made the urine clump into a nice hard ball. Believe me, throw that at someone. They wouldn’t mess with you again. 

[Gefn]

Hey @Knox27

 

To The Briefing Room!

[Cyber Liberty]

No, he has kitties. That will nibble all ankles and kill with cuteness. You have been warned. Lol.

But @Cyber Liberty you could always through old cat litter bombs from castle walls instead of rocks and stuff like they did in medieval times. I bought this scoop away stuff you put in the litter box which made the urine clump into a nice hard ball. Believe me, throw that at someone. They wouldn’t mess with you again. 

We call those "bricks." 

[Cyber Liberty]

I'm happy for anyone who wishes to take that vaccine to do so and hope that they will grant those of us who don't that same courtesy.  Whether they do or not, I'm not going to take it. Period.

It's our conservative way, to believe people should be able to assess their own risks.  They'll try to sell the vax to us the same way they did with masks:  Demand we take it, to "protect others."  That's the socialist way.

[Bigun]

That sounds fair to me

I have suggested to my friends that they should thoroughly understand the possible side effects and risks associated with any vaccine they are considering BEFORE making the decision to take it.

[DCPatriot]

I have suggested to my friends that they should thoroughly understand the possible side effects and risks associated with any vaccine they are considering BEFORE making the decision to take it.

@Bigun

Covid vaccine came up at the Thanksgiving Dinner table.

I questioned why a "94.5% successful" vaccine was even necessary for a virus which for the highest risk group (70+ yrs) has a proven 94.7% survival rate?

I then asked why there has been a virtual non-existent 2020 seasonal flu season right now, yet an explosion of positive tests for Covid?

Then I asked why the total number of overall NATIONAL deaths year-to-date in 2020 is virtually the same as it has been for the same period in 2018, 2019?

Finally, I suggested that this is all an excuse to forbid mandatory IN-PERSON voting, as well as a concerted effort to destroy American Small Businesses; the absolute BACKBONE of the National Economy.

Everyone looked at me like I was Ozzy Osbourne talking.

So, I just asked them to pass me the green bean casserole.   

[Bigun]

@Bigun

Covid vaccine came up at the Thanksgiving Dinner table.

I questioned why a "94.5% successful" vaccine was even necessary for a virus which for the highest risk group (70+ yrs) has a proven 94.7% survival rate?

I then asked why there has been a virtual non-existent 2020 seasonal flu season right now, yet an explosion of positive tests for Covid?

Then I asked why the total number of overall NATIONAL deaths year-to-date in 2020 is virtually the same as it has been for the same period in 2018, 2019?

Finally, I suggested that this is all an excuse to forbid mandatory IN-PERSON voting, as well as a concerted effort to destroy American Small Businesses; the absolute BACKBONE of the National Economy.

Everyone looked at me like I was Ozzy Osbourne talking.

So, I just asked them to pass me the green bean casserole.   

Well, @DCPatriot, FWIW to you, I have asked and will continue to ask those very same questions because they deserve answers.

[PeteS in CA]

I'm happy for anyone who wishes to take that vaccine to do so and hope that they will grant those of us who don't that same courtesy.  Whether they do or not, I'm not going to take it. Period.

I've posted at least once - probably several times - that I oppose mandatory vaccinations. Given that the states most likely to be that tyrannous are trying to obstruct the coming vaccines (NY, CA, OR, WA), I do not think mandatory vaccinations are a realistic prospect.