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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #125 on: September 29, 2020, 11:53:56 am »
My single fear is that he will go into full attack mode and look like he is beating up on a tired old man, garnering a lot of sympathy for slo Joe.

If that's what happens, then we are well and truly f'd as a country.

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« Reply #126 on: September 29, 2020, 11:53:59 am »
I'm lighting a candle in front of my Infant of Prague praying that Slo-Joe loses his composure and drools....or sh*ts his pants or something.    :smokin:

Then Plan B had better be good.

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« Reply #127 on: September 29, 2020, 11:59:00 am »
If he goes after Biden personally or after Hunter Biden then it will be at the expense of not answering the question before him.  That's not going to play well.

But, but, but.....Chris Wallace promised to stay "invisible".  President Trump is going to destroy him tonight.

Predict that Biden will snap off his microphone speaker wire and storm off the stage, refusing to talk about Hunter and the Ukraine....aka  Giuseppe Materasso e le sette cimici.

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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #128 on: September 29, 2020, 12:03:04 pm »
But, but, but.....Chris Wallace promised to stay "invisible".  President Trump is going to destroy him tonight.

Predict that Biden will snap off his microphone speaker wire and storm off the stage, refusing to talk about Hunter and the Ukraine....aka  Giuseppe Materasso e le sette cimici.

@aligncare   :laugh:


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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #129 on: September 29, 2020, 12:30:07 pm »
 :bkmk:

What time is the debate tonight? 8 or 9 pm EST?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #130 on: September 29, 2020, 12:43:33 pm »
New York Times’ Trump Tax Return ‘Bombshell’ Is A Joke
If this is the big pre-debate 'gotcha' that the Democrats and their allies in Big Media had in mind, it’s a bit of a flop.
By Ryan Ellis
September 28, 2020

The New York Times published an article Sunday evening analyzing several years of tax returns filed by President Donald Trump. This illegal leak of the president’s tax returns revealed nothing we didn’t already know about the Trump business hydra: It is complicated, has a lot of expenses that generate tax deductions, and hires very smart tax advisers to make the whole thing work with as low a legal tax liability as possible. If that sounds familiar, it’s because the Democrats also tried this line of attack against Trump in the 2016 debates. ...

Not surprisingly, a business empire run this way robs a lot of profitable Peters to pay a lot of unprofitable Pauls. The New York Times article throws around terms that sound tricky or scary to normal people, but to tax professionals are part of any business tax return — depreciation, amortization, business bad debt, net operating losses, passive losses, historic rehabilitation credits, consulting fees, and the like. The bottom line is that the Trump business empire is basically a closed circuit — profits from business A are used to prop up business B and acquire business C. That creates a lot of deductions that offset the profit, which in turn means that in some years, very little tax is owed.

Does that make Trump a tax cheat? Not by itself, certainly. The IRS or other tax authorities are of course free to challenge the legality of this capital loss or that consulting expense, but that’s a matter of analyzing facts and circumstances case by case. There’s nothing wrong with taking these deductions in and of themselves.  ... More at the Federalist
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #131 on: September 29, 2020, 12:47:39 pm »
But, but, but.....Chris Wallace promised to stay "invisible".  President Trump is going to destroy him tonight.

Predict that Biden will snap off his microphone speaker wire and storm off the stage, refusing to talk about Hunter and the Ukraine....aka  Giuseppe Materasso e le sette cimici.

@aligncare   :laugh:

It's ok if Trump is a "Jerk" tonight,  better a Jerk than being Weak, like Biden is.

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« Reply #132 on: September 29, 2020, 01:45:23 pm »
But, but, but.....Chris Wallace promised to stay "invisible".  President Trump is going to destroy him tonight.

Hope so.  But the bar for Biden has been set so low..

Predict that Biden will snap off his microphone speaker wire and storm off the stage, refusing to talk about Hunter and the Ukraine....aka  Giuseppe Materasso e le sette cimici.

@aligncare   :laugh:

I doubt that a question concerning Hunter Biden will come up.  If Trump raises it, and we know he'll try, then Biden will be prepped on how to deflect it and try to turn it against Trump.  That's my prediction

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« Reply #133 on: September 29, 2020, 01:49:20 pm »
:bkmk:

What time is the debate tonight? 8 or 9 pm EST?

Thanks in advance.

8 Central, 9 Eastern.

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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #134 on: September 29, 2020, 01:53:00 pm »

I doubt that a question concerning Hunter Biden will come up.  If Trump raises it, and we know he'll try, then Biden will be prepped on how to deflect it and try to turn it against Trump.  That's my prediction

If Biden so much as utters the word Russia it will come up. All Trump will have to do is mention Hunter's 3.5 million from the wife of Moscow's mayor. I don't see Biden making a clever repartee to that. More likely he'll challenge the president to a fistfight. Or pushup contest.

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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #135 on: September 29, 2020, 02:01:15 pm »
People are misreading the New York Times’ article about Trump’s taxes

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The problem with this whole $750 mantra is that Trump is correct and everyone shouting $750 is wrong. Trump didn’t pay only $750 in taxes in 2016 and 2017. He paid $750 in addition to the millions in taxes he paid during those years.

Twitterer Alexandriabrown realized that, although the Times’s article is rather obliquely written, it entirely supports Trump’s defense against the charge that he paid less in taxes than a teacher, a firefighter, or a nurse. She also caught that the Times unforgivably peered into the personal financial information of all of Trump’s employees, which is an entirely new level of bad conduct:

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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #136 on: September 29, 2020, 02:41:40 pm »
People are misreading the New York Times’ article about Trump’s taxes

excerpt:

The problem with this whole $750 mantra is that Trump is correct and everyone shouting $750 is wrong. Trump didn’t pay only $750 in taxes in 2016 and 2017. He paid $750 in addition to the millions in taxes he paid during those years.

Twitterer Alexandriabrown realized that, although the Times’s article is rather obliquely written, it entirely supports Trump’s defense against the charge that he paid less in taxes than a teacher, a firefighter, or a nurse. She also caught that the Times unforgivably peered into the personal financial information of all of Trump’s employees, which is an entirely new level of bad conduct:

more
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/09/people_are_misreading_the_new_york_times_article_about_trumps_taxes.html

Actually, he paid taxes in advance....essentially providing the government $$$...interest-free.   :laugh:
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #137 on: September 29, 2020, 04:02:55 pm »
If Biden so much as utters the word Russia it will come up. All Trump will have to do is mention Hunter's 3.5 million from the wife of Moscow's mayor. I don't see Biden making a clever repartee to that. More likely he'll challenge the president to a fistfight. Or pushup contest.
And if Biden doesn't mention Russia?  He may not just walk into the trap you would like to set.

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« Reply #138 on: September 29, 2020, 04:03:37 pm »
Actually, he paid taxes in advance....essentially providing the government $$$...interest-free.   :laugh:

According to the Times story Trump later got that money back from the IRS.  With interest.

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« Reply #139 on: September 29, 2020, 04:05:01 pm »
Rep. Kevin Brady calls for probe into whether Trump's tax information release was 'illegal'

Brady says there is the 'prospect of a felony crime' in releasing private tax return information

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kevin-brady-trump-tax-release
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #140 on: September 29, 2020, 04:08:43 pm »
And if Biden doesn't mention Russia?  He may not just walk into the trap you would like to set.
I’m not on the president’s debate prep team, but if it were possible I would take a bet on that.

What has Biden got to talk about for a hour and a half besides Covid? Nasty tweets?

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« Reply #141 on: September 29, 2020, 04:13:42 pm »
I’m not on the president’s debate prep team, but if it were possible I would take a bet on that.

What has Biden got to talk about for a hour and a half besides Covid? Nasty tweets?

I'm concerned that Biden will ask something...."Do you even know the name of the vice-Premier/Chancellor of Germany?  Of YUJERKASTAN??     happy77
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #142 on: September 29, 2020, 04:17:41 pm »
I'm concerned that Biden will ask something...."Do you even know the name of the vice-Premier/Chancellor of Germany?  Of YUJERKASTAN??     happy77

Did you listen to Rush yesterday? He predicted that Biden will not answer the question asked by Wallace, instead go on attack each time with prepared attack points.
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« Reply #143 on: September 29, 2020, 04:18:31 pm »
I’m not on the president’s debate prep team, but if it were possible I would take a bet on that.

What has Biden got to talk about for a hour and a half besides Covid? Nasty tweets?

The best strategy is to simply let Biden be Biden.  If he can't out-debate Sanders, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and Warren, he certainly isn't going to out-debate Trump.
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« Reply #144 on: September 29, 2020, 04:20:53 pm »
I'm concerned that Biden will ask something...."Do you even know the name of the vice-Premier/Chancellor of Germany?  Of YUJERKASTAN??

Trump:  That's Secretary Pompeo's job.
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #145 on: September 29, 2020, 04:36:00 pm »
I’m not on the president’s debate prep team, but if it were possible I would take a bet on that.

What has Biden got to talk about for a hour and a half besides Covid? Nasty tweets?
But will it be an hour and a half of debates? I read that team plugs wants a break every 30 minutes, probably so he doesn't have to wear his depends and have tell tale lines showing in his trousers and to keep his meds at an optimum level. If they do get a break every 30 minutes it will be a very bad optic of an old man that is incapable of dealing with anything for an extended period of time.

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« Reply #146 on: September 29, 2020, 05:16:04 pm »
I’m not on the president’s debate prep team, but if it were possible I would take a bet on that.

What has Biden got to talk about for a hour and a half besides Covid? Nasty tweets?

Covid.  Unemployment.  Health Care.  Criticize Trump's record on just about everything.  I don't think Biden will be at a loss for topics.

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« Reply #147 on: September 29, 2020, 05:17:49 pm »
Rep. Kevin Brady calls for probe into whether Trump's tax information release was 'illegal'

Brady says there is the 'prospect of a felony crime' in releasing private tax return information

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kevin-brady-trump-tax-release

Certain something for the DOJ to look into.  It's very possible that a crime was committed somewhere in the release of these records.

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« Reply #148 on: September 29, 2020, 05:18:50 pm »
I'm concerned that Biden will ask something...."Do you even know the name of the vice-Premier/Chancellor of Germany?  Of YUJERKASTAN??     happy77

Make up a name.  Odds are nobody else will know.

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« Reply #149 on: September 29, 2020, 05:20:57 pm »
The best strategy is to simply let Biden be Biden.  If he can't out-debate Sanders, Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and Warren, he certainly isn't going to out-debate Trump.

Who did Trump out-debate?  This is not a format that is friendly to the President.