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Victor Davis Hanson: American soldiers leave Germany -- and suddenly Germany is upset
« on: August 24, 2020, 10:06:25 am »
Victor Davis Hanson: American soldiers leave Germany -- and suddenly Germany is upset

Will there be any point in the future when Europe is confident enough to be a full defense partner with the U.S.?
 
By Victor Davis Hanson | Tribune Media Services
 

President Trump recently ordered a 12,000-troop reduction in American military personnel stationed in Germany. That leaves about 24,000 American soldiers still in the country.

A little more than half of the troops being withdrawn will return home. The rest will be redeployed to other NATO member nations such as Belgium, Italy, and perhaps Baltic and Eastern European countries.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is said to be furious. She claims the redeployments will “weaken the (NATO) alliance.” German commercial interests chimed in that the troop withdrawals will hurt their decades-old businesses serving U.S. bases.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/american-soldiers-germany-victor-davis-hanson
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Re: Victor Davis Hanson: American soldiers leave Germany -- and suddenly Germany is upset
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2020, 03:36:47 pm »
Why should US forces be deployed to Germany to defend Islam?
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Re: Victor Davis Hanson: American soldiers leave Germany -- and suddenly Germany is upset
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2020, 05:06:46 pm »
Merkel and the German government didn't meet their NATO obligations and let their military decay, and now are surprised and outraged that Trump is moving some American forces out of Germany? Who do they think Trump is? Obama 2.0?
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Re: Victor Davis Hanson: American soldiers leave Germany -- and suddenly Germany is upset
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2020, 05:13:35 pm »
German can always out source their security internally to the Muslem hoards they willingly let invade the modern DDR
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Re: Victor Davis Hanson: American soldiers leave Germany -- and suddenly Germany is upset
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2020, 05:19:45 pm »
Kills that German region's economy, that's why.
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Re: Victor Davis Hanson: American soldiers leave Germany -- and suddenly Germany is upset
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2020, 06:02:54 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on August 24, 2020, 05:19:45 pm
Kills that German region's economy, that's why.

Oh, good point.  Did not think of that.  MERKEL, is buying oil/gas from RUSSIA and that is why we were there in the first place to defend Germany from Russia.  Why now? Then Merkel is delinquent in her payments to USA...NATO..for having this defense.  SHE WAS WARNED BY POTUS.  Pay up or we leave. (I am sorry I have a good memory. It upsets most people on here. ).  :patriot:   888mouth
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Re: Victor Davis Hanson: American soldiers leave Germany -- and suddenly Germany is upset
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2020, 07:08:03 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on August 24, 2020, 05:19:45 pm
Kills that German region's economy, that's why.

The German government has been playing "Chicken" with US Presidents over their military funding for years, ASSuming the POTUS wouldn't dare reduce US forces in Germany. With Obama they were correct, and I think they played GWB over this as well. Trump tried arm-twisting, and now has done what Merkel, et al ASSumed he would not do.

So, yeah several regions of Germany will be hurt, but ultimately, by the German government's choices.
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Re: Victor Davis Hanson: American soldiers leave Germany -- and suddenly Germany is upset
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2020, 11:35:55 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on August 24, 2020, 07:08:03 pm
The German government has been playing "Chicken" with US Presidents over their military funding for years, ASSuming the POTUS wouldn't dare reduce US forces in Germany. With Obama they were correct, and I think they played GWB over this as well. Trump tried arm-twisting, and now has done what Merkel, et al ASSumed he would not do.

So, yeah several regions of Germany will be hurt, but ultimately, by the German government's choices.

@PeteS in CA

And MAYBE it will cause the German voters to put Merkel and her party out of office come the next election?
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Re: Victor Davis Hanson: American soldiers leave Germany -- and suddenly Germany is upset
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2020, 04:34:05 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on August 24, 2020, 11:35:55 pm
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And MAYBE it will cause the German voters to put Merkel and her party out of office come the next election?

Nope.  I expect them to unite in the face of a common enemy.  That would be us, the nasty Yankees.
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Re: Victor Davis Hanson: American soldiers leave Germany -- and suddenly Germany is upset
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2020, 04:47:54 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on August 25, 2020, 04:34:05 am
Nope.  I expect them to unite in the face of a common enemy.  That would be us, the nasty Yankees.

@Cyber Liberty

Since I have no idea what the attitude of the typical German is to Americans,I will take your word for that.

Seems like I remember the Germans liking the Americans 20-25 years ago,though.
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