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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #250 on: August 26, 2020, 11:51:41 pm »
Meet Antifa's 'Alice Phallus.' When She's Not Rioting, She's a 'Life Coach' for Portland's At-Risk Youth



Antifa’s Alice Phallus Is Arrested

Police say they arrested 14. Among them was Alice Elizabeth Johnson. The woman, who just celebrated her 28 birthday – Happy Birthday, Alice! – was charged with interfering with a Portland Police officer. She was let off on her own recognizance and required to post $0.00 bail. Zero. That’s a nice birthday present from the new DA.

At night, Alice appears to be an antifa warrior for the far Left. She leaves the comfort of home to take on imaginary fascists and racists. Fascists and racists are defined as people who don’t agree with her. For example, you’re a “fascist” and a “racist” if you support police officers.

She looks fierce with her shaved head and mean spirit.

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IMHO, that makes those youth more 'at risk' than ever.
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #251 on: August 27, 2020, 10:37:47 am »
Is that her "war face?"

LMAO...

I'd love to unleash R. Lee on that piece of human excrement.

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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #252 on: August 27, 2020, 06:57:35 pm »
Portland Mayor Says Let Violence ‘Burn Itself Out’ as Police Detail Nightly Destruction

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/27/portland-mayor-says-let-violence-burn-itself-out-police-detail-nightly-destruction/
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #253 on: August 27, 2020, 07:03:25 pm »
Portland Mayor Says Let Violence ‘Burn Itself Out’ as Police Detail Nightly Destruction

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/27/portland-mayor-says-let-violence-burn-itself-out-police-detail-nightly-destruction/

Oh, FFS.

ETA:  "We'll let it burn itself out."  Well, yeah dumbass!  It'll burn itself out when the last building is a cinder.  When the aggregate property value of your business district approaches zero.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2020, 07:09:15 pm by Cyber Liberty »
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #254 on: August 28, 2020, 01:17:27 am »
Oh, FFS.

ETA:  "We'll let it burn itself out."  Well, yeah dumbass!  It'll burn itself out when the last building is a cinder.  When the aggregate property value of your business district approaches zero.
It won't be zero, it'll be negative. Cleanup, hazmat, etc. costs more than the property in a burned out high crime area would be worth.
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #255 on: August 28, 2020, 09:10:46 am »
Andy Ngô    @MrAndyNgo
It looks like there was no late-night violent protest or riot in Portland for the first time in 93 days. Something is off. Antifa wouldn't just stop. Could it because they're terrified after hearing that @FBIPortland  is stepping up its investigations?

4:48 AM · Aug 28, 2020


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Their leaders told them to stop because it’s costing them the election.
8:44 AM · Aug 28, 2020
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #256 on: August 28, 2020, 10:03:48 am »
Andy Ngô    @MrAndyNgo
It looks like there was no late-night violent protest or riot in Portland for the first time in 93 days. Something is off. Antifa wouldn't just stop. Could it because they're terrified after hearing that @FBIPortland  is stepping up its investigations?

4:48 AM · Aug 28, 2020


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Their leaders told them to stop because it’s costing them the election.
8:44 AM · Aug 28, 2020
Nope. The dems told them to cool it, since it's helping get Trump reelected.

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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #257 on: August 28, 2020, 10:10:22 am »
Nope. The dems told them to cool it, since it's helping get Trump reelected.

Yep, but the Carole King song applies.  "It's Too Late, Baby."  People are not going to forget 3 solid months of riots before November. It's too fresh on their minds.
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #258 on: August 28, 2020, 10:31:47 am »
Portland goes eerily silent after reports the FBI is hot on Antifa’s tail
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/28/portland-goes-eerily-silent-after-reports-the-fbi-is-hot-on-antifas-tail-965562
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #259 on: August 28, 2020, 11:49:23 am »
Andy Ngô    @MrAndyNgo
It looks like there was no late-night violent protest or riot in Portland for the first time in 93 days. Something is off. Antifa wouldn't just stop. Could it because they're terrified after hearing that @FBIPortland  is stepping up its investigations?

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Their leaders told them to stop because it’s costing them the election.
8:44 AM · Aug 28, 2020
Nope.My beet is that they are shifting the focus of their operations to other towns. The "riot kitchen" food truck out of Seattle was intercepted in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and I would not doubt these seasoned troublemakers are out there sharing the love with others of their ilk and just waiting for an incident to burn another town.
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #260 on: August 28, 2020, 12:31:32 pm »
Nope.My beet is that they are shifting the focus of their operations to other towns. The "riot kitchen" food truck out of Seattle was intercepted in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and I would not doubt these seasoned troublemakers are out there sharing the love with others of their ilk and just waiting for an incident to burn another town.

The Road Show doesn't seem to be playing as well.....
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #261 on: August 28, 2020, 12:39:54 pm »
The Road Show doesn't seem to be playing as well.....
The road show has done some severe damage in Kenosha, but has not gone quite as I think they planned. It has exposed the perfidy of more public officials, the deceit in some reporting events, especially to do with the self-defense acts by a minor being assaulted by felons. More people are waking up to the lies and noticing a significant number of the communists/terrorists/rioters in the streets are white. If this isn't hurting the Democrats, it should be. The respective ' causes' of BLM and ANTIFA are becoming cause for profanity in many circles, and anyone genuinely concerned about police brutality and not just breaking things, stealing stuff, and burning towns should distance themselves from both organizations.

As America wakes up to this threat, expect more resistance to the Communists from ordinary people.

In the words of John Paul Jones, "We have not yet begun to fight." 
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #262 on: August 28, 2020, 08:51:56 pm »
‘No Thanks’: Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler Denies Trump’s Offer To Send Federal Aid Amid Riots
https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/28/portland-oregon-mayor-ted-wheeler-rejects-trump-help-riot/
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #263 on: August 28, 2020, 09:39:13 pm »
‘No Thanks’: Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler Denies Trump’s Offer To Send Federal Aid Amid Riots
https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/28/portland-oregon-mayor-ted-wheeler-rejects-trump-help-riot/
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #264 on: August 29, 2020, 04:53:58 am »
‘No Thanks’: Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler Denies Trump’s Offer To Send Federal Aid Amid Riots
https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/28/portland-oregon-mayor-ted-wheeler-rejects-trump-help-riot/
Maybe this guy should put down the pipe and step out of the basement....

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“There is no place for looting, arson, or vandalism in our city. There is no room here for racist violence or those who wish to bring their ideology of hate into our community. Those who commit criminal acts will be apprehended and prosecuted under the law.”

Wheeler’s promise to hold rioters accountable comes as Multnomah County District Attorney Mike Schmidt announced individuals will no longer be charged with interfering with police officers, disorderly conduct, criminal trespass, harassment (when classified as a misdemeanor) or rioting unless accompanied by property damage, theft or use of force against someone.
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #265 on: August 29, 2020, 09:46:35 am »
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Kenosha has been very quiet for the third night in a row or, since the National Guard has shown up. That’s the way it works, it’s all very simple. Portland, with a very ungifted mayor, should request help from the Federal Government. If lives are endangered, we’re going in!

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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #266 on: August 29, 2020, 10:25:19 am »
August 29, 2020
Portland mayor piously turns down Trump's offer of police aid, finds his apartment's lobby overrun by protestors
By Monica Showalter

Is there any fool like a Democrat fool?

Portland's mayor, Ted Wheeler, has already made his city a punchline internationally, vacuously mouthing the platitudes of Black Lives Matter, and watching mobs riot and burn his city for 92 days straight, with no effort to contain it. Democrats bristle at Republican efforts to pin rioting on poor Democrat rule, but are cut off at the pass when Portland is brought up. Nobody can argue about the incompetence there. Even the people in Minneapolis console themselves with the thought that as bad as their city is, at least it's not Portland.

President Trump brought up his city by name in his widely watched Republican convention speech, because it's such a killshot.

    Make no mistake, if you give power to Joe Biden, the radical left will defund police departments all across America. They will pass federal legislation to reduce law enforcement nationwide. They will make every city look like Democrat-run Portland, Oregon.

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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #267 on: August 29, 2020, 10:31:10 am »
Maybe this guy should put down the pipe and step out of the basement....

Sounds like the DA has the Mayor's back.  Wheeler can talk tough all he wants, and he knows it means nothing if the Prosecutors refuse to prosecute.
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #268 on: August 29, 2020, 12:43:46 pm »
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Antifa and BLM are flashing strobe lights into @tedwheeler’s condo building in NW Portland. They’re also hosting a metal concert on the street, blocking the road. In the condo lobby, occupiers have chained themselves together demanding he resign.

Video:   

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1299572865004498945

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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #269 on: August 29, 2020, 12:45:47 pm »


LOL...I love it when the terrorist turn on their supporters.. :bullie smokin:
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #270 on: August 29, 2020, 12:49:51 pm »
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After #antifa started multiple fires on the street & set the police union building on fire again tonight, Portland Police declared a riot & moved in. #PortlandRiots

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https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1299620791424659457

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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #271 on: August 29, 2020, 12:51:41 pm »
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Portland police arrest a man who was about to escape on a motorcycle at the #antifa riot in north Portland. #PortlandRiots #antifa

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https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1299631543011303425

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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #272 on: August 29, 2020, 02:00:47 pm »
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/looting-goes-mainstream-on-npr.php

LOOTING GOES MAINSTREAM ON NPR
AUGUST 29, 2020 BY STEVEN HAYWARD

With lawlessness and organized looting threatening to take down Joe Biden (which is why I’ve been calling the riots “spontaneous pro-Trump rallies”—have they filed their in-kind contribution reports with the FEC by the way?), we’ve seen leading Democrats like AOC say looting is just desperate people trying to get necessities. Like flat screen TVs and Nike shoes, though I haven’t been able to find the FDA’s nutritional guidance on any of these necessities.

In any case, NPR on Thursday offered an extended interview with Vicky Osterweil, author of a brand new book, In Defense of Looting. Here are some highlights from the interview:

For people who haven’t read your book, how do you define looting?

When I use the word looting, I mean the mass expropriation of property, mass shoplifting during a moment of upheaval or riot. That’s the thing I’m defending. . .

Can you talk about rioting as a tactic? What are the reasons people deploy it as a strategy?

It does a number of important things. It gets people what they need for free immediately, which means that they are capable of living and reproducing their lives without having to rely on jobs or a wage—which, during COVID times, is widely unreliable or, particularly in these communities is often not available, or it comes at great risk. That’s looting’s most basic tactical power as a political mode of action.

It also attacks the very way in which food and things are distributed. It attacks the idea of property, and it attacks the idea that in order for someone to have a roof over their head or have a meal ticket, they have to work for a boss, in order to buy things that people just like them somewhere else in the world had to make under the same conditions. It points to the way in which that’s unjust. And the reason that the world is organized that way, obviously, is for the profit of the people who own the stores and the factories. So you get to the heart of that property relation, and demonstrate that without police and without state oppression, we can have things for free. . .

More at URL above...

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Still wondering if this is satire... or... does this gal really mean it...?

Link to NPR interview:
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178/one-authors-argument-in-defense-of-looting

Link to the book:
https://www.boldtypebooks.com/titles/vicky-osterweil/in-defense-of-looting/9781645036678/

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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #273 on: August 29, 2020, 07:15:40 pm »
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/looting-goes-mainstream-on-npr.php

LOOTING GOES MAINSTREAM ON NPR
AUGUST 29, 2020 BY STEVEN HAYWARD



In any case, NPR on Thursday offered an extended interview with Vicky Osterweil, author of a brand new book, In Defense of Looting. Here are some highlights from the interview:

For people who haven’t read your book, how do you define looting?

When I use the word looting, I mean the mass expropriation of property, mass shoplifting during a moment of upheaval or riot. That’s the thing I’m defending. . .

Can you talk about rioting as a tactic? What are the reasons people deploy it as a strategy?

It does a number of important things. It gets people what they need for free immediately, which means that they are capable of living and reproducing their lives without having to rely on jobs or a wage—which, during COVID times, is widely unreliable or, particularly in these communities is often not available, or it comes at great risk. That’s looting’s most basic tactical power as a political mode of action.

It also attacks the very way in which food and things are distributed. It attacks the idea of property, and it attacks the idea that in order for someone to have a roof over their head or have a meal ticket, they have to work for a boss, in order to buy things that people just like them somewhere else in the world had to make under the same conditions. It points to the way in which that’s unjust. And the reason that the world is organized that way, obviously, is for the profit of the people who own the stores and the factories. So you get to the heart of that property relation, and demonstrate that without police and without state oppression, we can have things for free. . .

More at URL above...

Poster's note:
Still wondering if this is satire... or... does this gal really mean it...?

Link to NPR interview:
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178/one-authors-argument-in-defense-of-looting

Link to the book:
https://www.boldtypebooks.com/titles/vicky-osterweil/in-defense-of-looting/9781645036678/

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Why is it that I suspect she,and most likely both parents,were Trust Fund Children?
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #274 on: August 29, 2020, 07:57:55 pm »
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/looting-goes-mainstream-on-npr.php


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Poster's note:
Still wondering if this is satire... or... does this gal really mean it...?

Link to NPR interview:
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178/one-authors-argument-in-defense-of-looting

Link to the book:
https://www.boldtypebooks.com/titles/vicky-osterweil/in-defense-of-looting/9781645036678/

Can't say for certain because I don't know her personally,but I suspect she is sincere.

Met several "summer residents" who were Trust Fund Children when I was growing up on the Atlantic Coast. Friendly enough socially,but more than a little cautious about getting too close to the "common people".

And rightly so. One girl was the granddaughter of a famous Texas billionaire. These people MUST be cautious for a number of reasons,ranging from meeting someone whose family was screwed in a business deal witth their family,to kidnapping,to blackmail. They were raised to believe they were "special" and to be paranoid because "everybody is jealous of you and your wealth". The fact that I was a local and knew who owned the ocean front mansion where she was staying by herself was a good tip-off. I also met some of her friends and family acquaintances,and was less than impressed. I wanted no more to do with them than they wanted to do with me.

Got to know this "class" of people a little better by accident while living in Denver and working security. There was a meat-packing plant in town that was on strike,and I got the nod to provide security for employees passing through the picket lines. One of whom was a mechanic that serviced the plant. Young guy,maybe 21,but knowledgeable and seemed to be a hard worker,and very friendly.

We were talking one day and when I asked if he knew of any place for rent at a good price,he invited me to move in with him,his brother,and a couple of friends that had a house rented on a 30 acre former horse ranch between Denver and Golden. I rented a room from them for basically "nothing money".

Nice guys,but the most irresponsible people I have ever met in my life. No matter how much money they were earning,they were always broke before payday. I found out after moving in they ALL had "bottom rung" jobs at family-owned bushiness that paid them big bucks. The idea being they start at the bottom and over a period of a few years work their way into management positions after learning what it took to run each department. The guy I met first came from a family that went to parties at the Governor's mansion,and had meat-packing plants in several states.

An example of their irresponsibility was I once heard them talking about gathering up stuff they didn't need and having a yard sale to come up with enough cash to hire a band for a weekend party. I came home from work that Friday night and discovered all my spare Harley parts were out by the road with a For Sale sign on them. When I asked them "what the bleep do you think you are doing?",none of them understood why I was upset. I didn't need the parts right then,and they DID need money right then.

Seriously.

When they did hold the party,there were literally hundreds of people who showed up because they had posted posters all over Golden and some yuppie bars in Denver announcing the bands name and the admission fees.

Yeah,I came home that night to discover hundreds of people walking all around the yard,and probably 50 strangers inside the house.

That wasn't the worse part,though. The worse part was they had the 14 year old brother of one of them down at the gate collecting the cash for admittance. All by himself. With hundreds of strangers showing up,and a big ass cash box sitting no the table in front of him.

It doesn't GET more irresponsible than that.

So I grabbed a revolver and a chair,and went down there to sit behind him and watch what was happening.

The final straw came when they needed more money for another party,and I came home from work that night to discover they had sold my dog for cash.

They ALL went out the door and into the yard that night,with no where to live,and a serious caution about the bad things that would happen to them if they came back. One went through the screen door literally,after telling me he wasn't leaving and there was nothing I could do about it. Had no trouble with the rest of them after that.

To sum it up,every one of them was bright,had very pleasant social personalities,honestly seemed to MEAN well,but grew up living lives with no negative consequences for anything they did wrong. Family money or influence could always get them out of any trouble they got into,so they just didn't worry about it.







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« Reply #275 on: August 29, 2020, 08:42:28 pm »
To sum it up,every one of them was bright,had very pleasant social personalities,honestly seemed to MEAN well,but grew up living lives with no negative consequences for anything they did wrong. Family money or influence could always get them out of any trouble they got into,so they just didn't worry about it.

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Good post, Sneaks. I have spent most of my life working for the 'privileged class', one way or another... Some of whom you might know by name, but most of them, higher echelon business class folks with more money than sense... That's a big part of where I got my disdain for city folks, and science, and utter reliance on the system... The whole thing:

I see them folks at the apex of the pyramid in terms of social standing, business success - Success by any standard according to the world - Smart and flashy beautiful people with straight white teeth and perfect hair, and a 5000 ft2 'cabin' for a summer home with all the smart automation, and security, on 200 acres, parked out forest, a dock on the beach... Hell, sometimes the whole damn lake...

They have it all, except the all that matters. It is all so very empty.

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« Reply #276 on: August 29, 2020, 08:54:35 pm »
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They have it all, except the all that matters. It is all so very empty.

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At times it seems the more people have,the less they hold to be precious.

There is no loss I can think of greater than that.

A generalization to be sure,but other than the ones that made their wealth working in a field they are in love with,like computing,music,medicine,etc,etc,etc,the less humanity they seem to have.

Inherited money can be as big a curse as it is an aid.

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« Reply #277 on: August 29, 2020, 09:07:00 pm »
@sneakypete

Good post, Sneaks. I have spent most of my life working for the 'privileged class', one way or another... Some of whom you might know by name, but most of them, higher echelon business class folks with more money than sense... That's a big part of where I got my disdain for city folks, and science, and utter reliance on the system... The whole thing:

I see them folks at the apex of the pyramid in terms of social standing, business success - Success by any standard according to the world - Smart and flashy beautiful people with straight white teeth and perfect hair, and a 5000 ft2 'cabin' for a summer home with all the smart automation, and security, on 200 acres, parked out forest, a dock on the beach... Hell, sometimes the whole damn lake...

They have it all, except the all that matters. It is all so very empty.

We lived on a canal just outside the river that leads to the Gulf of Mexico and from there you can virtually get to anywhere you want to go. Yes, we enjoyed sailing when we wanted and I would be in awe at the size of the houses on the river and at the mouth of the Gulf - most were in excess of 4,000 ft. and started around $1,000,000.00.  Many are only occupied part of the year or for a few months. Some are vacation homes for people to escape to from the harsh winters up north.  Some are vacation rentals.  The wealth is just unimaginable (at least to me).

So ... after the kids moved out and get married ... we aged ... no longer able to sail ... we seldom used the pool except when the grandkids visited ... we retired and decided it was absolutely ridiculous to keep paying the high cost of insurance, hurricane insurance, flood insurance, taxes, and up keep, and we weren't by any means even close to living in one of the $1,000,000.00 homes.

We downsized.  It took me awhile to get used to not living on saltwater - - we now have a very moderate home on a freshwater canal  -- I can sit and watch the migratory birds, herons, otters, various fish, ducks, and other wildlife. We are very comfortable and we aren't shelling out $$ every month for something that we don't use.

There's something to be said for living more simply. Money does not buy happiness.


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« Reply #278 on: August 29, 2020, 09:08:55 pm »
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At times it seems the more people have,the less they hold to be precious.

There is no loss I can think of greater than that.

A generalization to be sure,but other than the ones that made their wealth working in a field they are in love with,like computing,music,medicine,etc,etc,etc,the less humanity they seem to have.

Inherited money can be as big a curse as it is an aid.

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Yep. Parked out forest with cultured lawns... And not a single critter living there... Kinda says it all for me... a forest that has stopped being what a forest is for... Just.Empty.

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« Reply #279 on: August 29, 2020, 09:30:31 pm »
We downsized.  It took me awhile to get used to not living on saltwater - - we now have a very moderate home on a freshwater canal  -- I can sit and watch the migratory birds, herons, otters, various fish, ducks, and other wildlife. We are very comfortable and we aren't shelling out $$ every month for something that we don't use.

There's something to be said for living more simply. Money does not buy happiness.

I hear what you are saying... It's a different economy than mine, but yeah. Insurance? Nah. If the cabin burns down, you do just what I am doing now... and build another one. One just suitable for livin, and no more, or you will break your back trying to saw up the wood to keep it warm every year... Not to mention breaking your back building it in the first place... Only to have the forest burn it down again.

There's a reason why folks down your way used to live in grass huts. Hurricanes don't mean as much if you don't care if it blows all your crap away... A couple days to build a new hut and life goes on.

Now, where I am, the grass hut thing don't work. You need a substantial structure that don't mind 4 ft of snow on top of it... I switched gears out in the holler... I might have a mill up there by now, but I had to stop to protect the tent. Winter is around the corner, and without me being there all the time to get the snow off the tent, it would just collapse.

Built a proper floor and moved the tent on it, and now building a roof over the whole show. funny how that works. the main roof over the tent, with the tool shed as a lean-to on one side, and a lean-to on the other to keep a couple cords of wood dry... By the time I am done, I could pretty near board and batten the gable ends, tear the tent down, make a door and a window or two, and have a cabin. All that would be left is the porches and the stove.

It ain't how I set out, but it's how it went. All of a sudden, wait a minute... That's almost a cabin...  :thud:

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« Reply #280 on: August 29, 2020, 09:53:46 pm »
I hear what you are saying... It's a different economy than mine, but yeah. Insurance? Nah. If the cabin burns down, you do just what I am doing now... and build another one. One just suitable for livin, and no more, or you will break your back trying to saw up the wood to keep it warm every year... Not to mention breaking your back building it in the first place... Only to have the forest burn it down again.

There's a reason why folks down your way used to live in grass huts. Hurricanes don't mean as much if you don't care if it blows all your crap away... A couple days to build a new hut and life goes on.

Now, where I am, the grass hut thing don't work. You need a substantial structure that don't mind 4 ft of snow on top of it... I switched gears out in the holler... I might have a mill up there by now, but I had to stop to protect the tent. Winter is around the corner, and without me being there all the time to get the snow off the tent, it would just collapse.

Built a proper floor and moved the tent on it, and now building a roof over the whole show. funny how that works. the main roof over the tent, with the tool shed as a lean-to on one side, and a lean-to on the other to keep a couple cords of wood dry... By the time I am done, I could pretty near board and batten the gable ends, tear the tent down, make a door and a window or two, and have a cabin. All that would be left is the porches and the stove.
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It ain't how I set out, but it's how it went. All of a sudden, wait a minute... That's almost a cabin...  :thud:

When I lived in Alaska, some folks would pitch a large tent and build around it (only so many months to build) -- or they would build a garage and live in the garage and eventually add on to it -- at least they had shelter during the long winter months.  It was a different lifestyle; very harsh winters for sure but the peacefulness and being surrounded by mountains was worth it.

I also knew a couple of people who built entire homes out of foam insulation -- very cozy and warm in the winter even at -50 with just a woodstove.

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« Reply #281 on: August 29, 2020, 10:44:24 pm »
When I lived in Alaska, some folks would pitch a large tent and build around it (only so many months to build) -- or they would build a garage and live in the garage and eventually add on to it -- at least they had shelter during the long winter months.  It was a different lifestyle; very harsh winters for sure but the peacefulness and being surrounded by mountains was worth it.


Yup... You know the drill... Doing the whole thing with an AK chainsaw mill right now... Standard Outfitters tent... When I figured I needed to protect it, I built the floor off of the high-side of the tool shed I'd made, and made it big enough to account for the rigging too... and built a pole barn over that... Then a roof for the wood on the other side, and I had time to close that up... Still need to hang the battens on that... But yeah... it kinda just organically happens that I am building around the dang tent so much that all I have to do is close in the front and back now...

Still a helluva chore. Alaska chainsaw millin is not fun. I REALLY want that pto driven saw mill up there. Once I have a proper mill I am in high gear. And I could be cutting all winter and have it all stickered and waiting for spring...

But that ain't likely now. Another couple weeks and I will be starting to worry about snow up there. And there is no way I can get that big pole barn up for the mill in that short a time. And getting the tin in there with the fall rains probably won't happen. By the time hunting is over, that road will be  mud till it freezes and I can get in with a snow machine. But it's all good now. What I have up there can winter now, and I may just get those ends boarded up too. Haulin insulation in there might have to wait for snow.

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LOL! Yeah... Old trailer house with a foot of spray foam on the outside, with the hard foam outer candy shell... Painted camo... Same here...  :laugh:  :beer:

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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #282 on: August 30, 2020, 02:36:57 am »
Fatal shooting in Portland as Trump supporters clash with Black Lives Matter protesters

Police say it was not clear if shooting was linked to fights between protesters and caravan of Trump supporters



One person was shot and killed late Saturday in Portland, Oregon, as a large caravan of Donald Trump supporters and Black Lives Matter protesters clashed in the streets, police said.

It wasn’t clear if the shooting was linked to fights that broke out as a caravan of about 600 vehicles was confronted by protesters in the city’s downtown.

An Associated Press freelance photographer heard three gunshots and then observed police medics working on the body of the victim, who appeared to be a white man.

“Portland police officers heard sounds of gunfire from the area of Southeast 3rd Avenue and Southwest Alder Street,” Portland police said in a statement.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/30/fatal-shooting-in-portland-as-trump-supporters-clash-with-black-lives-matter-protesters
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« Reply #283 on: August 30, 2020, 05:30:24 am »
Before celebrating the demise of one more BLM/Antifa rioting thug, we need to realize that their lawlessness is causing a political tsunami of  support for Trump.  These guys do not need to muck up the Big Mo. 
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« Reply #284 on: August 30, 2020, 07:49:17 am »
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Portland Black Lives Matter Have Chained Themselves Together in Lobby of Leftist Mayor Ted Wheeler's Apartment https://thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/portland-black-lives-matter-chained-together-lobby-leftist-mayor-ted-wheelers-apartment/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons via @gatewaypundit



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These people have chained themselves to each other ... shouldn't someone chain himself/herself to the desk in the lobby?   :pondering:

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« Reply #285 on: August 30, 2020, 08:04:17 am »
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Today, I sent this letter via email to @realDonaldTrump  declining his recurring offer to aid Portland by sending federal enforcement to the city. https://portland.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/8.28.20-letter-to-president-trump.pdf



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« Reply #286 on: August 30, 2020, 08:12:40 am »
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PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — One person was shot and killed late Saturday in Portland, Oregon, as a large caravan of President Donald Trump supporters and Black Lives Matter protesters clashed in the streets, police said.

It wasn’t clear if the shooting was linked to fights that broke out as a caravan of about 600 vehicles was confronted by protesters in the city’s downtown.

An Associated Press freelance photographer heard three gunshots and then observed police medics working on the body of the victim, who appeared to be a white man. The freelancer said the man was wearing a hat bearing the insignia of Patriot Prayer, a right-wing group whose members have frequently clashed with protesters in Portland in the past. ...
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“I am not sad that a f—ing fascist died tonight,” says a woman at the antifa gathering in downtown Portland. The crowd laughs and cheers. The ID of the deceased is not confirmed but he is believed to be a Trump & blue lives supporter. #PortlandRiots

“He was a f—ing Nazi! Our community held its own.”
Antifa & BLM in Portland celebrate the homicide of a purported Trump supporter who was affiliated with Patriot Prayer, a Portland-area conservative group.

“I am not sad that a f—ing fascist died tonight,” says a woman at the antifa gathering in downtown Portland. The crowd laughs and cheers. The ID of the deceased is not confirmed but he is believed to be a Trump & blue lives supporter. #PortlandRiots

After finding out that it was a "blue lives matter" supporter who was killed, antifa in Portland are very happy. They're dancing and chanting now. #PortlandRiots

It sounds like someone is shouting, “We got a Trumper right here” just before the shots are fired and the man is killed.

A Trump supporter who participated in the Portland caravan rally was shot & killed in downtown Portland. Antifa & BLM extremists physically blocked them on the road & threw projectiles. After the man's death was known, antifa celebrated & danced.

Antifa burn a US flag to celebrate the death of the man shot in downtown Portland. They call him a “fascist” despite not knowing who he is. #PortlandRiots

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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #287 on: August 30, 2020, 08:46:09 am »
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On the 93rd day of riots and protests in Portland, Ore., a Trump supporter was fatally shot. He was identified by his "Patriot Prayer" hat and his shooting death was caught by multiple livestreamers.

As cars drive through the intersection, a man can be seen pulling a gun and shooting. The man who is hit stumbles and falls and is then illuminated by headlights.

    Here is video recorded from a distance of the shooting. pic.twitter.com/wtxItCDMay ...

After the man was murdered, his death was celebrated as a victory over Trump, and the dead man was assumed to be a Nazi.  ...
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« Reply #288 on: August 30, 2020, 09:02:34 am »
Ian Miles Cheong reports:Full story, photos, etc., at the Post Millennial

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« Reply #289 on: August 30, 2020, 09:03:50 am »
That's it for me!   Need a 3 mile walk around Seneca Lake.    9999hair out0000
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« Reply #290 on: August 30, 2020, 09:37:34 am »
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« Reply #291 on: August 30, 2020, 10:10:49 am »
more here

Portland Black Lives Matter Monsters Cheer and Celebrate Murder of Patriot Prayer Member (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/portland-black-lives-matter-monster-cheer-celebrate-murder-patriot-prayer-member-video/
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #292 on: August 30, 2020, 10:20:17 am »
catfish wrote:
"Before celebrating the demise of one more BLM/Antifa rioting thug, we need to realize that their lawlessness is causing a political tsunami of  support for Trump."

But... if that is the case... perhaps the incident of young Kyle Rittenhouse has ALSO started a political tsunami, as well...?

But more than that... it may become "a wave of action" by traditional-minded Americans of physical opposition to the antifa/blm/communist insurgents. I would endorse and applaud such "action".
Think of the old, original "Death Wish" film.

Hmmmm....
Upon further reading of the posts above, looks like it was "one of ours" who was killed.
What were the circumstances?
Was there a confrontation?
Or was it unprovoked?

Now... let's see what happens in the coming nights.
Will the right back down?
Or... will they (like the terminator) "be back"...?

Looks like "the battle lines" are being drawn, and that "Civil War II" is getting close to "going hot"...
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #293 on: August 30, 2020, 10:43:05 am »
Man 'in a Patriot Prayer hat' is shot dead in Portland during violent clashes between Trump supporters and BLM: Chaos on the 95th night of unrest after caravan of 600 cars waving MAGA flags drove into the city and confronted protesters

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8678107/Trumps-Portland-caravan-drives-city-thousands-attend-rallies-supporting-president.html

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« Reply #295 on: August 30, 2020, 10:58:20 am »
Donald Trump Shares Message Describing Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler as a ‘Useless F**king Idiot’
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/30/donald-trump-shares-message-describing-portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-as-a-useless-fking-idiot/
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #296 on: August 30, 2020, 11:19:41 am »
RE mystery's post 295...

Can't say that I disagree with that assessment...

Addendum:
I've posted this often before, but I'll repeat:
At some point, federal troops are gonna have to "go in" to Portland.
I understand how this could be a problem before the election, so this leaves Mr. Trump with a predicament:
How long can he refrain from doing what needs to be done...?
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Re: Battle Portland:
« Reply #297 on: August 30, 2020, 11:20:16 am »
Man 'in a Patriot Prayer hat' is shot dead in Portland during violent clashes between Trump supporters and BLM: Chaos on the 95th night of unrest after caravan of 600 cars waving MAGA flags drove into the city and confronted protesters

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8678107/Trumps-Portland-caravan-drives-city-thousands-attend-rallies-supporting-president.html

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I’d imagine those “protesters” didn’t think about rushing those vehicles facing lots of muzzles. 

But that’s a side point.   The main point that I take away from this is that it is the next level of unrest. The left will now start appearing at these things more conspicuously armed.  The next step after that will be skirmishes and ultimately will escalate into full-fledged battles.
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« Reply #298 on: August 30, 2020, 11:44:43 am »
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So this 600 truck convoy left one of their own dead there?  I hope our side has more stomach than that if they are serious about this.
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« Reply #299 on: August 30, 2020, 11:50:15 am »
These people have chained themselves to each other ... shouldn't someone chain himself/herself to the desk in the lobby?   :pondering:

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How ironic is it that ALL those chained "BLM protestors" are white?
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