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$3 Trillion from the house and $1 Trillion from the senate..

So pelosi and schumer have set the stage for a fight..... What is mitch gonna do..

Cave for 3.5 Trillion.  Ya know.
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Cave for 3.5 Trillion.  Ya know.

And it will be a "bipartisan" agreement.     22222frying pan ****slapping

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Among the GOP bill's key provisions as laid out by McConnell:

    Another round of $1,200 checks for individuals ($2,400 for married couples), with more support for adult dependents.
    A “sequel” to the Paycheck Protection Program, the widely praised small business rescue program that has provided more than $500 billion to companies with fewer than 500 employees. The GOP proposal would target hard-hit firms with 300 or fewer workers a second opportunity to draw from the fund.
     A continued federal supplement to state unemployment insurance. The weekly amount is “eight times what Democrats put in place when they controlled the White House and Congress during the Great Recession," McConnell said.
    $100 billion to help schools and universities reopen fully, a priority of President Donald Trump.
    $16 billion to expand state testing with an emphasis on schools, child care facilities and nursing homes.
    $26 billion for development of vaccines and therapeutic remedies to treat COVID-19.
    Freezing 2021 Medicare premiums at 2020 levels.
     Economic incentives to boost worker retention.
    Liability protections for medical workers, schools, and employers.
    More funding for personal protective equipment to help first responders avoid infection from COVID-19.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/27/mitch-mcconnell-unveils-stimulus-plan-panned-democrats-republicans/5521760002/
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As long as it's politically useful to the denizens of the beltway today impoverishing Americans for the next hundred years is a small price to pay.

@skeeter

I don't know about you,but I plan on taking MY "free" $1200 and spending it as fast as I can,while I can still buy $300 worth of something with it.

Wait a couple of months,and it might take 1200 bucks to fill up the gas tank on my Ranger pu.
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@skeeter

I don't know about you,but I plan on taking MY "free" $1200 and spending it as fast as I can,while I can still buy $300 worth of something with it.

Wait a couple of months,and it might take 1200 bucks to fill up the gas tank on my Ranger pu.

Dang it I never got my first stimulus check.

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Dang it I never got my first stimulus check.

@skeeter

I was shocked when I got one. Didn't ask for it,and didn't expect to get it.

In FACT,I bought the 2003 Ranger pu mentioned above with the money. Going to sell my 2016 Silverado crew cab 4x4 while it's still worth something and there are people with the money to buy it.

Sill have my 06 3/4 ton GMC 4X4 diesel pu that's paid for,and I'm not selling that one. 365 hp and 665  ft lbs of torque. I can pull 10 tons down the highway with it at 75 MPH,and forget I'm towing anything.

Downsizing and selling all the "extra" I have while it's still worth something. The diesel Jimmy is not and will never be "extra" as long as I am able to drive.
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@skeeter

I was shocked when I got one. Didn't ask for it,and didn't expect to get it.

In FACT,I bought the 2003 Ranger pu mentioned above with the money. Going to sell my 2016 Silverado crew cab 4x4 while it's still worth something and there are people with the money to buy it./4

Sill have my 06 3/4 ton GMC 4X4 diesel pu that's paid for,and I'm not selling that one. 365 hp and 665  ft lbs of torque. I can pull 10 tons down the highway with it at 75 MPH,and forget I'm towing anything.

Downsizing and selling all the "extra" I have while it's still worth something. The diesel Jimmy is not and will never be "extra" as long as I am able to drive.
Gotta hand it to you. Stimulus check or no I can't wait to get rid of my Tacoma King Cab and get a real car thats easier on the kidneys.

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   I with @sneakypete I bought windows for my old house with the first one. I'm gonna bank the second one so I can buy milk, bread and eggs for the next 3 months.
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How about a practice for "Principled Conservatives," to give the money to somebody more needy, or to their church or worthwhile cause, or return it to the govt. to pay down the debt?

Reasoning, they have lived their own lives "conservatively, within their means in  order to prepare for hard times?

aka "walking the walk"
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Gotta hand it to you. Stimulus check or no I can't wait to get rid of my Tacoma King Cab and get a real car thats easier on the kidneys.
You don't like your Tacoma?  I've had 2 now and love them for driving to the field.  I was in the process of buying another one when this danged COVID killed everything.  I was looking at one of those sandstone colored ones.  Kind of a unique color.
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   I with @sneakypete I bought windows for my old house with the first one. I'm gonna bank the second one so I can buy milk, bread and eggs for the next 3 months.
I redid my bathroom with the first one.  Guess I'll start on the kitchen with the second one.

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Senate GOP proposing second round of $1,200 stimulus checks

Senate Republicans are proposing a second round of stimulus checks as part of a coronavirus relief proposal they are unveiling on Monday.

The GOP package would provide a $1,200 check to individuals who make up to $75,000 per year or a $2,400 check for married couples who make up to $150,000, according to details from Senate Finance Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa).

Those amounts would then be scaled down until an income threshold of $99,000 for an individual or $198,000 for married couples is reached.

“This unprecedented expansion of federal assistance will help millions of workers, families, patients, businesses and governments survive this historic public health and economic crisis,” Grassley said in a statement.

The language largely mirrors the coronavirus bill passed in March. Like the CARES Act, it also proposes an additional $500 per dependent.

Unlike the March bill, however, dependents of any age would qualify for an additional $500 check.

Under the previous legislation, adult dependent children, such as college students, did not qualify for the additional money.

https://thehill.com/homenews/coronavirus-report/509273-senate-gop-proposing-second-round-of-1200-stimulus-checks

@Smokin Joe .I noticed you were asking about over 17 dependent children
It wasn't over 17, but exactly 17 who got left out of the last round.
The mmoney was for dependents under 17, and anyone claimed as a dependent on someone else's tax returns was ineligible. So 17 year old dependents got left out.
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How about a practice for "Principled Conservatives," to give the money to somebody more needy, or to their church or worthwhile cause, or return it to the govt. to pay down the debt?

Reasoning, they have lived their own lives "conservatively, within their means in  order to prepare for hard times?

aka "walking the walk"
It's funny, but people "more needy" right now, now that my oilfield job is gone for a while, and I'm making almost enough to pay bills doing other things for the moment, but those more needy people are already getting things like paid for health care, EBT, subsidized housing, and benefits I can't afford. By virtue of making good choices, I can pay my bills, I own my home outright, and my humble fleet (al old enough to vote) has been well maintained and does the job. I'll either bank the money for tougher times or spend it on vehicle repairs (parts for the two that need them, and re-upping registrations for next year).
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How about a practice for "Principled Conservatives," to give the money to somebody more needy, or to their church or worthwhile cause, or return it to the govt. to pay down the debt?



@truth_seeker

You're kidding,right?

If you did that,they would only see it as proof they hadn't given "enough",and they would  just be encouraged to print even more "give away money".
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You don't like your Tacoma?  I've had 2 now and love them for driving to the field.  I was in the process of buying another one when this danged COVID killed everything.  I was looking at one of those sandstone colored ones.  Kind of a unique color.
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All of the muted colors are nice. But as long as I have the truck I'll be tempted to do my own hauling & that along with the stiff ride is tough on the back.

I've owned a Land Cruiser and I really like it. Think I'll go that route again.

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GOP's relief package hits wall in talks with Schumer, Pelosi
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/509300-gop-relief-bill-hits-wall-in-talks-with-schumer-pelosi

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I suppose there must me someone out there so stupid they are surprised by this. The Dims purposely wrote their bill so he wouldn't sign it.
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GOP coronavirus bill includes FBI building construction funds

by Susan Ferrechio, Chief Congressional Correspondent
July 27, 2020 07:37 PM


Sen. Mitch McConnell told reporters Monday he does not know why the Trump administration included in the coronavirus aid package $1.75 billion to construct the FBI building in Washington, D.C.

McConnell told reporters the deal Republicans unveiled on Monday was negotiated first with the White House, which asked for the money to be added to the measure.

“You’ll have to ask them why they insisted that be included,” McConnell said.

The GOP’s sweeping aid package includes $200 billion to extend the forgivable loan program for small businesses, $105 billion to help schools reopen, $16 billion for testing and vaccine development, extended expansion of unemployment benefits, and a new round of $1,200 stimulus checks. The entire cost of the GOP bill is roughly $1 trillion.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/gop-coronavirus-bill-includes-fbi-building-construction-funds
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If the pubs were going to counter, they should have done so in May.  Now the unemployment benefits have expired, and the dems will delay any extension until they get the other $2 trillion of malarkey. 

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As negotiations begin, who actually wins in the coronavirus aid packages?

Jared Dyson July 28, 2020
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Charlotte, NC — On Monday, Senate Republicans proposed their version of the next coronavirus stimulus plan called the HEALS Act. The legislation comes in at a whopping $1 trillion and includes many of the proposals that were suspected. The extension of unemployment benefits was the one proposal that everyone was watching for.

In addition to helping the Paycheck Protection Program and another round of checks for most Americans, the legislation proposed cuts to the $600 per week unemployment benefit. The Republican proposal was to cut that amount to $200 per week, until states can get a system in place that will fund up to a maximum of 70% of your pre-COVID income.

The bill sets the stage for the battle of the H bills. The Democrats proposed their HEROES Act many weeks ago. On Monday, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) referred to the HEROES Act as a socialist manifesto. Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) ridiculed the Republican bill saying that it did not go far enough.

Leaders were set to begin negotiations on Monday evening, but who will win the negotiations? Generally, both parties establish a wish list of demands and start negotiating for the items that they want to include. If you base it on demands from the bills, Democrats certainly have the leverage.

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https://thelibertyloft.com/as-negotiations-begin-who-actually-wins-in-the-coronavirus-aid-packages/?utm_source=whatfinger
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If the pubs were going to counter, they should have done so in May. Now the unemployment benefits have expired, and the dems will delay any extension until they get the other $2 trillion of malarkey.

I don't understand the delay either. Why does McConnell believe waiting strengthened his hand?
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I don't understand the delay either. Why does McConnell believe waiting strengthened his hand?
Pelosi/Schumer will burn down the entire country and scatter the soil with salt if it means taking back the Senate and getting rid of Trump.

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Do you actually think "Let's make a deal" Mitch cares?
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GOP's relief package hits wall in talks with Schumer, Pelosi
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/509300-gop-relief-bill-hits-wall-in-talks-with-schumer-pelosi

Not to worry, the GOP will soon come onboard with the Dim's plan. It's an election year and they are good with spending as much of the tax payers money as necessary to assure their reelection... :shrug: