Reflections on Southern Slavery and Leftist Slavery

[Bigun]

Reflections on Southern Slavery and Leftist Slavery

The statue of the world’s greatest slave owner stands in Seattle.

Under 400,000 slaves were brought to America. Those enslaved African people represented only 3.6% of the transatlantic slave trade. By the Civil War, there were under 4 million black slaves in America.

Over 20 million people were imprisoned by Soviet leftists in the gulag system.

While the peak slave labor population in the leftist slave camps was less than the peak slave population in the South, the death rate ranged from 5 percent to 25 percent depending on the period.

Under 2 million people died as a result of the brutal leftist system of slave labor camps and that was a fraction of the full number of people killed through various means by the Socialist system.

Gulag labor was murderous with prisoners sent to work in uranium mines or to labor outdoors chopping trees and digging canals in subzero weather with little food and less protection. At one gulag, prisoners labored in uranium mines, breathing in radioactive dust, and dying within two years of cancer and leukemia. The sick were then used for medical experiments by Socialist medicine before they died.

These horrors were not some relic of the Stalin era, but were being carried out as recently as the 1970s...

Excerpted from: https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/07/leftist-slavery-was-worse-southern-slavery-daniel-greenfield/

[Absalom]

How many of those who rant/rage about the evil of slavery are aware of these facts:
* Slavery existed since earliest Man across the Globe.
   In Africa, it was the result of chronic/continuous tribal warfare as most prisoners were executed.
   Then around 1200 BC, Tribal Chieftains grasped that they could make a buck or two by selling
   captured warriors, which was the catalyst for the "Slave Trade."
* We were controlled by the British Crown from Jamestown in 1607 till the ratification of our
   Constitution in 1789, some 180 years, which gave us the Sovereign Right to enact our own Laws. 

[truth_seeker]

I always get amusement, about these types of discussions, minimizing, comparing slavery.

But never a mention of the abolition religion movement in the US, Canada, and Britain which called for an end of slavery.

That movement was a basis for the Republican Party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism#:~:text=Abolitionism%2C%20or%20the%20abolitionist%20movement,trade%20and%20set%20slaves%20free.

[LegalAmerican]

The LEFT...never has any real facts.  WHEN WILL PEOPLE KNOW THE REAL HISTORY.  BARBARY COAST.  MILLIONS OF WHITE CHRISTIANS AS SLAVES TO BLACK MUSLIMS.  IRISH SLAVES.....made to breed with black slaves to produce more slaves, cheaper.
 
 PLANTATION OWNERS WHO WERE BLACK...used black & white slaves in the south.  ANTHONY JOHNSON..a black man started slavery in America.  CIRQUE...a black man,  was a slave trader of his own people. 

[Absalom]

I always get amusement, about these types of discussions, minimizing, comparing slavery.
But never a mention of the abolition religion movement in the US, Canada, and Britain which called for an end of slavery.That movement was a basis for the Republican Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism#:~:text=Abolitionism%2C%20or%20the%20abolitionist%20movement,trade%20and%20set%20slaves%20free.

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While seeking truth suggest you acquaint your self w/reality.
The implication that the moral objective of ending slavery formed the R Party is nonsense.
At Constitutional ratification in 1788, our Colonies, though largely rural, were morphing
into a more urbanized North while the South remained agricultural/rural.
As decades passed, this dichotomy increased w/the growth of a Northern Mercantile Class.
Further the South strongly supported Free Trade, which is why Great Britain was its powerful
ally, while the North was protectionist thru self-interest, promoting Duties, Excises and Tariffs.
This dichotomy grew wider for the rest of the century as the North became increasingly
industrialized, creating corporate leviathans, among them, Standard Oil and US Steel.
The Republicans were the benefactors and promoters of the business class from Fremont
of Cal. in 1856 to this very day. The notion that they were some sort of moral force promoting
racial equality is utter nonsense. Like all political entities, their core interest was economics.

[truth_seeker]

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While seeking truth suggest you acquaint your self w/reality.
The implication that the moral objective of ending slavery formed the R Party is nonsense.
At Constitutional ratification in 1788, our Colonies, though largely rural, were morphing
into a more urbanized North while the South remained agricultural/rural.
As decades passed, this dichotomy increased w/the growth of a Northern Mercantile Class.
Further the South strongly supported Free Trade, which is why Great Britain was its powerful
ally, while the North was protectionist thru self-interest, promoting Duties, Excises and Tariffs.
This dichotomy grew wider for the rest of the century as the North became increasingly
industrialized, creating corporate leviathans, among them, Standard Oil and US Steel.
The Republicans were the benefactors and promoters of the business/class from Fremont
of Cal. in 1856 to this very day. The notion that they were some sort of moral force promoting
racial equality is utter nonsense. Like all political entities, their core interest was economics.

Try  to remain on the Abolition movement, which was my main point.

William Wilberforce. Elijah Parrish Lovejoy, and others.
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Abolition had a strong religious aspect.


(also Quakers were abolitionists, and Mormons were abolitionists)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=william+wilberforce&fulltext=1&profile=default&ns0=1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah_Parish_Lovejoy


 

[Absalom]

Try  to remain on the Abolition movement, which was my main point.
William Wilberforce. Elijah Parrish Lovejoy, and others.
Abolition had a strong religious aspect.
(also Quakers were abolitionists, and Mormons were abolitionists)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=william+wilberforce&fulltext=1&profile=default&ns0=1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah_Parish_Lovejoy

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Of course abolitionism had a strong moral core and so what???
Republicans were a political party interested in power and what
it would do for their wallets; the very same attitude and behavior
that motivates them this very day!!!!!

[Bigun]

Try  to remain on the Abolition movement, which was my main point.

William Wilberforce. Elijah Parrish Lovejoy, and others.
t
Abolition had a strong religious aspect.


(also Quakers were abolitionists, and Mormons were abolitionists)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=william+wilberforce&fulltext=1&profile=default&ns0=1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah_Parish_Lovejoy

The fact of the matter is that the abolitionists were simply used by the movers and shakers just like the conservatives of today have been.  The goal WAS and IS political power and control of the nation's treasury.
 

[LegalAmerican]

Talks about slaves and KKK.  Always demon-rats. 


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[LegalAmerican]

Who had slaves?


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[LegalAmerican]

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[LegalAmerican]

BARBARY COAST.  MILLIONS OF WHITE SLAVES TO BLACK MUSLIMS. 


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The Barbary slave trade refers to the White slave markets that flourished on the Barbary Coast of North Africa, or modern-day Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and western Libya, between the 15th and 19th centuries. These markets prospered while the states were nominally under Ottoman suzerainty, but in reality they were mostly autonomous. The North African slave markets traded in European slaves. The European slaves were acquired by Barbary pirates in slave raids on ships and by raids on coastal towns from Italy to Spain, Portugal, France, England, the Netherlands, and as far afield as Ireland and Iceland. Men, women, and children were captured, to such a devastating extent that vast numbers of sea coast towns were abandoned.
Ohio State University history Professor Robert Davis describes the White Slave Trade as minimized by most modern historians in his book Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters: White Slavery in the Mediterranean, the Barbary Coast and Italy, 1500–1800. Davis estimates that 1 million to 1.25 million white Christian Europeans were enslaved in North Africa, from the beginning of the 16th century to the middle of the 18th, by slave traders from Tunis, Algiers, and Tripoli alone, and roughly 700 Americans were held captive in this region as slaves between 1785 and 1815. 16th- and 17th-century customs statistics suggest that Istanbul's additional slave import from the Black Sea may have totaled around 2.5 million from 1450 to 1700. The markets declined after the loss of the Barbary Wars and finally ended in the 1830s, when the region was conquered by France.

[catfish1957]

I say we pool our resources and give tickets to Bejing for Antifa members.

All contingent on them attemping to topple Mao statues

[LegalAmerican]

ARAB SLAVERY. 


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[LegalAmerican]

I say we pool our resources and give tickets to Bejing for Antifa members.

All contingent on them attemping to topple Mao statues

 

[Absalom]

The fact of the matter is that the abolitionists were simply used by the movers and shakers just like the conservatives of today have been.  The goal WAS and IS political power and control of the nation's treasury.

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@ Bigun, on the mark, per usual.
For some, reality is a bridge too far for them!