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It's really hard to buy into the panic porn and Lockdown Inc BS when two of the people pushing masks, lockdowns and remote schools...Tom Inglesby and Jennifer Nuzzo writ a paper back in 2006 saying the exact OPPOSITE if what they are pushing now.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.552.1109&rep=rep1&type=pdf

What's changed?

Not the science.
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« Last Edit: July 09, 2020, 10:32:30 pm by libertybele »
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https://www.winknews.com/2020/07/09/lee-health-nears-100-staffed-bed-capacity-activates-pandemic-surge-plan/

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200709/texas-daily-coronavirus-deaths-hit-triple-digits-as-abbott-expands-elective-surgery-ban

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-coronavirus-south-texas-medical-system-hospital-overwhelmed-cases/

A couple things of note here...keep in mind I'm a journalist and words matter.

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Lee Health is almost at 100% of their current staffed bed capacity.

Current staffed capacity.  How many people did they lay off or let go at the start of this political pandemic?  Are they at full staff?  If not what is their capacity if they are fully staffed.

The article is playing word games to create a panic.  If a hospital normally employs lets say 3,500 doctors and nurses and other support staff their capacity is X

If they've cut that staff in half then their "current staffed bed capacity" is Y...a much lower number.  But the article you linked to doesn't go into important details like that. 

They want you scared.


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Texas daily coronavirus deaths hit triple digits

Again the Statesman is giving an incomplete headline.  And it's on purpose.  The information provided in their article is as shallow as a kiddie pool and doesn't give the total picture. 


From the CBS article:

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New cases in the Rio Grande Valley have increased by nearly 70% from two weeks ago.

Is that because the virus is truly flaring up again or because testing is expanding and people who didn't even know they had the disease are finding out they carry the antibodies?  The story doesn't say.


More reported cases doesn't equal more people sick and dying from the virus.


What none of the articles will tell you either is that there is no accurate number of actual deaths directly related to the Wuhan Flu.  Why?  Because the loose reporting standards by the CDC allow everyone from a death by DUI to someone who dies of a heart attack to be reported as a virus death by hospitals.  Hospitals...who are promised more medicaid money if they report more virus related deaths.


Oh and by the way...the mortality rate from the China Flu is now at .02%.  Lower than a normal flu season in the U.S.


Facts....they are an important thing.
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A couple things of note here...keep in mind I'm a journalist and words matter.

Current staffed capacity.  How many people did they lay off or let go at the start of this political pandemic?  Are they at full staff?  If not what is their capacity if they are fully staffed.

The article is playing word games to create a panic.  If a hospital normally employs lets say 3,500 doctors and nurses and other support staff their capacity is X

If they've cut that staff in half then their "current staffed bed capacity" is Y...a much lower number.  But the article you linked to doesn't go into important details like that. 

They want you scared.


Again the Statesman is giving an incomplete headline.  And it's on purpose.  The information provided in their article is as shallow as a kiddie pool and doesn't give the total picture. 


From the CBS article:

Is that because the virus is truly flaring up again or because testing is expanding and people who didn't even know they had the disease are finding out they carry the antibodies?  The story doesn't say.


More reported cases doesn't equal more people sick and dying from the virus.


What none of the articles will tell you either is that there is no accurate number of actual deaths directly related to the Wuhan Flu.  Why?  Because the loose reporting standards by the CDC allow everyone from a death by DUI to someone who dies of a heart attack to be reported as a virus death by hospitals.  Hospitals...who are promised more medicaid money if they report more virus related deaths.


Oh and by the way...the mortality rate from the China Flu is now at .02%.  Lower than a normal flu season in the U.S.


Facts....they are an important thing.



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A couple things of note here...keep in mind I'm a journalist and words matter.

Current staffed capacity.  How many people did they lay off or let go at the start of this political pandemic?  Are they at full staff?  If not what is their capacity if they are fully staffed.

The article is playing word games to create a panic.  If a hospital normally employs lets say 3,500 doctors and nurses and other support staff their capacity is X

If they've cut that staff in half then their "current staffed bed capacity" is Y...a much lower number.  But the article you linked to doesn't go into important details like that. 

They want you scared.


Again the Statesman is giving an incomplete headline.  And it's on purpose.  The information provided in their article is as shallow as a kiddie pool and doesn't give the total picture. 


From the CBS article:

Is that because the virus is truly flaring up again or because testing is expanding and people who didn't even know they had the disease are finding out they carry the antibodies?  The story doesn't say.


More reported cases doesn't equal more people sick and dying from the virus.


What none of the articles will tell you either is that there is no accurate number of actual deaths directly related to the Wuhan Flu.  Why?  Because the loose reporting standards by the CDC allow everyone from a death by DUI to someone who dies of a heart attack to be reported as a virus death by hospitals.  Hospitals...who are promised more medicaid money if they report more virus related deaths.


Oh and by the way...the mortality rate from the China Flu is now at .02%.  Lower than a normal flu season in the U.S.


Facts....they are an important thing.

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@txradioguy   - thank you!!!  I needed that. Truly.

I'm sorry if I sounded harsh at first.  But so many people...smart people like you don't know all of the facts on this or realize what is being left out...a lie by omission...on purpose.

With my journalism background I can see things that should be in a useful factual story...that get left out.  And having dealt with ehMSM for so long from the military side...I've learned the how's and why's of why this is done.  And it pisses me off to no end when I see it.

I just didn't want you to get sucked into the fear being created on purpose over this virus.

I don't begrudge any individual who wants to wear a mask because they are at higher risk.  As long as it's a personal decision and something...like you do...on a consistent basis.


But to have some governor or mayor just fire off an EO with no legal basis forcing people to wear masks the minute they set foot outside the door or face jail time goes against everything we stand for as a country.  Same with forcing businesses to shut down.

And what scares me the most about what we've seen since this whole mess started...is the vast amount of people that just surrendered without one word of protest or one question about what was happening.
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A couple things of note here...keep in mind I'm a journalist and words matter.
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Facts....they are an important thing.

And to emphasize a bit more globally... Isn't the idea in a pandemic situation to divorce infected patients from hospitals so that hospitals can carry on? What happened to that idea?

If they were truly getting overrun, why not take over an abandoned mall, or any other structure with room and resources (HVAC, power, water, network, etc) and throw in 1000 extra ICU beds, fully staffed? I have jammed big material acquisitions for projects like that, And a small handful of good guys could identify and outfit something like that in a matter of weeks, and really having it up and running in days, with modular extensions happening quickly in rollout.

That's entirely possible. why isn't it happening? And that's just little ol me and the normal pipleline... I am sure Army CoE can go large. It's what they do.

The propaganda at this point is so bad that literally none of it can be believed.

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Oh, the virus is indeed spreading at warp speed.  ????  The hospitals ARE overloaded.  They are bringing in nurses and doctors from other areas to help.  Elective surgeries and procedures continue to get cancelled -- so those people aren't getting the help that they need.  TX is seeing triple digit deaths in one day.  FL hospitals are overwhelmed as well; we have over 60 hospitals that don't even have an ICU unit -- so critical patients are having to be transported to wherever.  My county today reached 100% bed capacity and they are now scrambling to get staff to take care of those patients.  God forbid if you have any kind of emergency right now.

Both of these states have huge populations and not enough hospital rooms,  beds, or medical personnel.

I'm not aware of any hospital in the US doing triage. Triage is what happens when hospitals are actually overloaded.

Many hospitals are very busy - but - a good percentage of that is catching up on backlog of elective procedures that were delayed earlier.

Hospitals operating at near capacity is exactly what you want to happen to get this behind us.

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I'm sorry if I sounded harsh at first.  But so many people...smart people like you don't know all of the facts on this or realize what is being left out...a lie by omission...on purpose.

With my journalism background I can see things that should be in a useful factual story...that get left out.  And having dealt with ehMSM for so long from the military side...I've learned the how's and why's of why this is done.  And it pisses me off to no end when I see it.

I just didn't want you to get sucked into the fear being created on purpose over this virus.

I don't begrudge any individual who wants to wear a mask because they are at higher risk.  As long as it's a personal decision and something...like you do...on a consistent basis.


But to have some governor or mayor just fire off an EO with no legal basis forcing people to wear masks the minute they set foot outside the door or face jail time goes against everything we stand for as a country.  Same with forcing businesses to shut down.

And what scares me the most about what we've seen since this whole mess started...is the vast amount of people that just surrendered without one word of protest or one question about what was happening.

Yes I fear this pandemic, and yes, I also fear the "under current" of this whole mess.  When they announced businesses had to shutdown, I thought at first, ok, I can understand and then I started to ask myself, how long, who's going to enforce this, what is going to happen next, etc. I couldn't help but think what a perfect opportunity to start hauling people away at night and when others inquired where their loved ones went, they could use the excuse we had to quarantine them. A lot of uncertainty. We had an appointment at our attorney's office that had already been scheduled before the shutdown.  We walked an approached the office and there was a sign on the door, that was a posted ordinance by the city that businesses could only be by appointment only and only 1 person at a time.  What an eerie feeling.  Both of us ventured in anyways.  Then they closed parks.  Parks??  Sunshine and open spaces.  Even after the parks were open the "park rangers" still monitored how many people gathered in one area and kept up barricades around the playgrounds. 

On the other hand, I also want to convey that part of my fear is what we are hearing from the doctors themselves; one told my hubby that things are much worse than what the news is reporting (which I don't watch) and at my last dr. appointment I was told definitely for my health I should always wear a mask; the doctor was wearing both a mask and a face shield and he's not even a specialist, he's a primary physician. A nurse acquaintance also told me that things are getting to a critical point ... so I am being bombarded with negativity and not a whole lot of positive.
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I cancelled my doctor appt. when I was told I had to wear a mask, and I asked did the doctor wear one.  HE DID.  I said, I thought a doctor would know better.  I have a demon-rat governor.  So, far I have not worn a mask. I have immunity and I need my oxygen. 

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I cancelled my doctor appt. when I was told I had to wear a mask, and I asked did the doctor wear one.  HE DID.  I said, I thought a doctor would know better.  I have a demon-rat governor.  So, far I have not worn a mask. I have immunity and I need my oxygen.

The rare times I'm forced to wear a mask, I get headaches like you wouldn't believe.  I can't prove it scientifically...but I think it has to do with rebreathing the carbon dioxide from when we exhale.
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The rare times I'm forced to wear a mask, I get headaches like you wouldn't believe.  I can't prove it scientifically...but I think it has to do with rebreathing the carbon dioxide from when we exhale.

Correct.   :yowsa: 888high58888

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The rare times I'm forced to wear a mask, I get headaches like you wouldn't believe.  I can't prove it scientifically...but I think it has to do with rebreathing the carbon dioxide from when we exhale.

My daughter has to wear a mask all day at work -- she has to go outside now and then and take it off because she starts to feel lightheaded -- she said the same thing about rebreathing the co2
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The rare times I'm forced to wear a mask, I get headaches like you wouldn't believe.  I can't prove it scientifically...but I think it has to do with rebreathing the carbon dioxide from when we exhale.

Find a structured mask with an exhaust port. Not only will you not be rebreathing, but the mask will stay functional far longer because exhaled moisture (mostly) goes out the hole.

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My daughter has to wear a mask all day at work -- she has to go outside now and then and take it off because she starts to feel lightheaded -- she said the same thing about rebreathing the co2

Some people who wear the mask, while driving a car, BEING ALONE...are passing out at the wheel.  DAWIN AWARD.

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My daughter has to wear a mask all day at work -- she has to go outside now and then and take it off because she starts to feel lightheaded -- she said the same thing about rebreathing the co2

Wearing a mask is definitely problematic for any healthy person for a host of reasons.
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Find a structured mask with an exhaust port. Not only will you not be rebreathing, but the mask will stay functional far longer because exhaled moisture (mostly) goes out the hole.

God as my witness...if this was silliness keeps up I'm gonna put on the one mask I own that WILL prevent any germ from getting to me:




Had to buy one (via payroll deduction") when I was moving from one duty station to another in Germany.  Didn't find it til I was moving back to the states. 
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Some people who wear the mask, while driving a car, BEING ALONE...are passing out at the wheel.  DAWIN AWARD.

My wife and I were in the drive through at CFA the other day...there was a guy who was in a jeep with a bikini top on it (very small minimal jeep roof covering) no one else was with him and he was wearing a frigging mask!  *****rollingeyes*****
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God as my witness...if this was silliness keeps up I'm gonna put on the one mask I own that WILL prevent any germ from getting to me:

Had to buy one (via payroll deduction") when I was moving from one duty station to another in Germany.  Didn't find it til I was moving back to the states.

LOL!  :laugh: I have the full compliment from paper dust masks through n95s and respirators all the way into full face and full-air w/Pilsbury Doughboy suit. If I thought I needed it, I have it.

But for your comfort, if you need one, a structured n95 with an exhaust port will do fine, and you won't get headaches. I have been in one all day long during sanding sessions precisely for the exhaust port which makes them eminently more wearable than a  dust mask.

You can find em, pretty sure, at any professional paint store.

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