Kasich: Trump Has Damaged GOP Brand — ‘It’s a Party Meltdown Right Now’

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

They've been saying this for 10 years now, since Obama won in 2008 actually.

[mountaineer]

Kasich gave us the last two balanced budgets we had - none since him, also a religious man - would vote for him right now.

Jimmy Carter was a "religious man," too. Not falling for that again.

[Jazzhead]

You know this isn’t going to happen, so why not just get behind him?

My advocacy goal is the need for ticket splitting to make sure that the Dems' radicalism is tempered by a GOP majority in the Senate.   To the extent that Trump's candidacy represents a roadblock to that goal -  as noted elsewhere GOP candidates are frustrated that Trump has failed to even try to flesh out a second term agenda that might boost GOP chances -  then I oppose his selfish candidacy.

I think that Trump is an unserious candidate at this point.  He is not looking to the future;  he is going through the motions.  Perhaps he will console himself in defeat with the cloak of martyrdom.     But i think he can still be convinced to save himself and his reputation,  by passing the baton to a new standard bearer who can consolidate and advance the causes of Americanism and conservatism.   

[catfish1957]

My advocacy goal is the need for ticket splitting to make sure that the Dems' radicalism is tempered by a GOP majority in the Senate.   To the extent that Trump's candidacy represents a roadblock to that goal -  as noted elsewhere GOP candidates are frustrated that Trump has failed to even try to flesh out a second term agenda that might boost GOP chances -  then I oppose his selfish candidacy.

I think that Trump is an unserious candidate at this point.  He is not looking to the future;  he is going through the motions.  Perhaps he will console himself in defeat with the cloak of martyrdom.     But i think he can still be convinced to save himself and his reputation,  by passing the baton to a new standard bearer who can consolidate and advance the causes of Americanism and conservatism.   

I have given thought that if Trump does continue to sink in the polls, that the RNC focus all funds on those close Senate races.  A GOP senate may be the only prevention we have from a Socialist Tsunami.   

[Jazzhead]

I have given thought that if Trump does continue to sink in the polls, that the RNC focus all funds on those close Senate races.  A GOP senate may be the only prevention we have from a Socialist Tsunami.

I agree.  The Dems appear ready, if they retake the Senate, to abolish the filibuster and with it the power of the minority to stand athwart the socialist tsunami.   With the Senate,  the GOP can play effective defense and stop the most radical stuff,  including the most radical judges.

To me,  this must be the eye-single focus going forward.   Voters who dislike Trump must be persuaded to nevertheless split their tickets.   

[Bigun]

I wouldn't vote for John Kasich for dog catcher much less president of the United States of America.

[skeeter]

I wouldn't vote for John Kasich for dog catcher much less president of the United States of America.

I'd vote for him as official food taster though. Have you seen that guy eat?

[Bigun]

I've said this here MANY times previously but it looks as though I need to repeat it again so here ya go:

These for public consumption polls are designed to drive opinions not measure them!

[roamer_1]

I have given thought that if Trump does continue to sink in the polls, that the RNC focus all funds on those close Senate races.  A GOP senate may be the only prevention we have from a Socialist Tsunami.

That would be hard to do - He's kinda a comeback kid... It's part of his method... He's all but consumed before he turns on the afterburners. Finding that point of total darkness after he's gone under and knowing he ain't coming back up would sorta have to be an act of divination. 

[PeteS in CA]

Irrelevant Loser-RINO sez wut?

[Cyber Liberty]

You know this isn’t going to happen, so why not just get behind him?

Some people think it's more important to be "correct" than to do what is "right."  That little "I told you so!" at the end of the game is more important than winning.

[skeeter]

Some people think it's more important to be "correct" than to do what is "right."  That little "I told you so!" at the end of the game is more important than winning.

Although I have no solid evidence something tells me they are doomed to be disappointed.

[aligncare]

Some people think it's more important to be "correct" than to do what is "right."  That little "I told you so!" at the end of the game is more important than winning.

Pride, stubbornness and pride. It’s human. Paradoxically however, humanness is something the self righteously critical narcissists strictly deny to Trump. Apparently they go for the double talking political theater types.

[catfish1957]

Kasich is ready to fix the GOP Chop Chop

[libertybele]

I have given thought that if Trump does continue to sink in the polls, that the RNC focus all funds on those close Senate races.  A GOP senate may be the only prevention we have from a Socialist Tsunami.

@catfish1957 when is the last time that you've known a poll to actually be reliable??  IMHO the RNC also needs to focus on putting systems in place to inhibit the leftist corruption to ensure a fair election.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

@catfish1957 when is the last time that you've known a poll to actually be reliable??

THe RCP average of polls has been pretty reliable for a while and showed Hillary winning around the percentage of vote she did win the popular vote with. Polls aren't what the media makes them out to be but they shouldn't be entirely ignored.

[dfwgator]

THe RCP average of polls has been pretty reliable for a while and showed Hillary winning around the percentage of vote she did win the popular vote with. Polls aren't what the media makes them out to be but they shouldn't be entirely ignored.

We are still in pre-season, the real games have yet to begin.

[libertybele]

THe RCP average of polls has been pretty reliable for a while and showed Hillary winning around the percentage of vote she did win the popular vote with. Polls aren't what the media makes them out to be but they shouldn't be entirely ignored.

Do you have a link for that data??

[skeeter]

We are still in pre-season, the real games have yet to begin.

The media claimed Trumps campaign was in disarray the day after his kickoff event in Oklahoma. Folks should probably give the guy a chance to get his campaign started before declaring him the loser.

[Cyber Liberty]

Do you have a link for that data??

I don't have one, but I do recall the RCP was pretty accurate in 2016, in the final polls of the popular vote.  The trouble is, that completely failed to account for the lopsided urban vs. rural counts, so they blew the count of votes that mattered:  The Electoral College, which is why a major goal of the rats is to get around the College somehow.

[roamer_1]

I don't have one, but I do recall the RCP was pretty accurate in 2016, in the final polls of the popular vote.  The trouble is, that completely failed to account for the lopsided urban vs. rural counts, so they blew the count of votes that mattered:  The Electoral College, which is why a major goal of the rats is to get around the College somehow.

I recall the same, exactly.

However, this far out, I have long believed they can manipulate the crap out of polling data... Only having to snug it up and get closer to reality as they get closer to the decision - They have to seem accurate by then... IMHO, there is a correlation between polling accuracy and Time-Till-Election...

And people are sheep.

[DCPatriot]

I recall the same, exactly.

However, this far out, I have long believed they can manipulate the crap out of polling data... Only having to snug it up and get closer to reality as they get closer to the decision - They have to seem accurate by then... IMHO, there is a correlation between polling accuracy and Time-Till-Election...

And people are sheep.

And let us guess..., you're the 'Shepherd'?     

[skeeter]

I recall the same, exactly.

However, this far out, I have long believed they can manipulate the crap out of polling data... Only having to snug it up and get closer to reality as they get closer to the decision - They have to seem accurate by then... IMHO, there is a correlation between polling accuracy and Time-Till-Election...

And people are sheep.

An aside - I once heard the vote margin of support Hillary Clinton received over Trump can be easily accounted for by the difference in registered vs actual voters in California and New York alone.

[LegalAmerican]

This is hardly a newsflash.

The Kasich-Bush-Romney-NeverTrumper wing of the party is butthurt because its not sitting in the power seat. We have our own similar crew right here on this site...who are equally butthurt and bitter against the President. These folks can't wait to jump on the "if Trump loses we can take back the GOP" bandwagon...because they believe they deserve to be pre-eminent. Its entitlement. Its arrogance. And its a measure of how completely out of touch with blue collar-salt of the earth Republican/Conservative voters these aging scions so look down upon.

Screw John Kasich.

Thank you!  Right on.   

[LegalAmerican]

Do you have a link for that data??

 .  Hillary DID NOT win any popular vote.  That is another LEFT lie.  I used to have the stats. POTUS TRUMP won both the popular vote and electoral college.  I think it was 307...to 223 Hillary.   Going by memory.   They think if they repeat the SAME LIE.....about Hillary winning, it will make it true.  NOT TRUE.