Surgeon general urges widespread mask use: 'It is not a suppression of your freedom'

[roamer_1]

Right.   And do you see anyone actually holding China accountable for the lives lost and damage done?  Me neither.

That's right. But that is little to do with Tumpy. There is a much bigger game afoot.

[240B]

Outside this morning. The neighborhood cat, which I call ghost-cat because it has a way of sneaking into my home and has done so many times, came slinking up in all her glorious orange. I petted her without thinking. But now I'm thinking, if I have COVID (which I don't) then didn't I just paint the cat with the virus? Guess if I had a mask on, everybody would still be safe.

Have read several articles about how pets cannot spread the virus. This is beyond STUPID reporting. It is ridiculous. Of course they can. The Left is pushing pets are no danger not to alarm their obviously ignorant base.

It is one thing to say that pets cannot contract COVID. OK. It is an entirely different conclusion to claim that pets cannot spread a virus. In fact, that is the exact Leftist argument against us. That even if we don't get the virus, we can still spread it. However, this apparently does not apply to animals. All of my animals will be fitted with masks today. That is the magic JuJu that stops COVID as we have all be told. If that cat had a mask, by force of law, it could not spread anything.

[XenaLee]

Outside this morning. The neighborhood cat, which I call ghost-cat because it has a way of sneaking into my home and has done so many times, came slinking up in all her glorious orange. I petted her without thinking. But now I'm thinking, if I have COVID (which I don't) then didn't I just paint the cat with the virus? Guess if I had a mask on, everybody would still be safe.

Have read several articles about how pets cannot spread the virus. This is beyond STUPID reporting. It is ridiculous. Of course they can. The Left is pushing pets are no danger not to alarm their obviously ignorant base.

It is one thing to say that pets cannot contract COVID. OK. It is an entirely different conclusion to claim that pets cannot spread a virus. In fact, that is the exact Leftist argument against us. That even if we don't get the virus, we can still spread it. However, this apparently does not apply to animals. All of my animals will be fitted with masks today. That is the magic JuJu that stops COVID as we have all be told. If that cat had a mask, by force of law, it could not spread anything.

Uhhhh.....

this is satire.... right?   

[Applewood]

https://twitter.com/LorenzoTheCat/status/1276965449331281920/photo/1

[Victoria33]

Yes, it seems a bit ridiculous. So far our city council voted against mandating wearing masks but they are advising and requesting that everyone wear masks when entering a business.  Today I went to the doctors and there was a sign on the door -- no mask no entry -- but there was a person without a mask in the waiting room.  All chairs were 6 ft. apart.  One of these days, this will all be over.   

@libertybele
@mystery-ak

liberty, there are reasons some people cannot wear a mask.  I am sure that is what you saw in the doctor's office when one person did not have a mask on.  There was a sign in my doctor's office this week which listed conditions for one not to wear a mask.

Other information:
Doctors/nurses in hospitals treating/close to patients that have a communicable disease, have always worn N95 masks and face shields, from the time they were available, plus a gown to protect their clothing, plus special gloves.  Cloth masks only stop "some" of nose/mouth excretions of the wearer, but that is better than nothing.

I had appointment with family doctor 3 days ago, and wore an N95 and a face shield. The doctor asked where I got the N95.  Told him I had a box full due to being an EMT.  He said I was lucky I had those.  He knows they work.

I will be getting a new mask from England.  My son found these being made by a company that started making them after the virus became bad there.  They are a triple cloth (the cloth is an English made cloth), and with a removable filter and another filter included in the order.  Tests done with an aerosol showed the mask does filter 90% of the aerosol released in the air near the mask.  At 3 ft. from an infected person, you are safe with this mask, and at 6 ft., you are safe with this mask.  This does not protect the eyes. 
Regular glasses help, but there are special glasses for this, but if one uses a face shield along with this new mask, the eyes are protected along with the nose and mouth.

People here who think this is a hoax, think this is a government move to make them do something they do not want to do, are ridiculous.  They are like children, "But Mommm, I don't want to do that."     

Here in Texas, we know how bad it is. We had 10,975 new cases yesterday, July 15.  Corpus Christi had 500 new cases yesterday.  Refrigerated trucks are here and more coming in to store dead bodies due to so many dying and one or more of these new trucks are going to Corpus Christi. 

I don't know what Gov. Abbott will do next, whether he will issue an executive order restricting people to their houses and shut down business as was done earlier.  I JUST SAW GOV. ABBOTT ON TV WHILE WRITING THIS:  HE SAYS HE WILL NOT SHUT DOWN TEXAS AGAIN.

[sneakypete]

It's probably not that few bother to read it, it's more likely that we/they had already read similar findings.   All it does is reiterate what we already knew.  Wearing the mask is just a 'feel-good' symbolic gesture to make everyone around you feel safer. It's a false sense of security and could end up doing more harm.  But we knew that.

@XenaLee

That is half the reason I wear my Lincoln Welding face shield.

The other half is I got tired of having to tell people I didn't even know that I am exempt from the state requirement to wear a mask because I have COPD. I was just about to the point where I was ready to start grabbing and holding people by the throat as I explained it,and decided to just do myself a favor and reduce stress by wearing the shield. It didn't affect my breathing in any way,and I already had it anyhow,so it seemed like the best solution.

[Smokin Joe]

That's right. But that is little to do with Tumpy. There is a much bigger game afoot.

Well, duh. We're at war and we don't even know it.

[mountaineer]

What Are We Doing to Our Children?
Jul 16
Written By Denise McAllister

The North Carolina governor has issued a decree that all students returning to school in the fall must wear a mask and social distance. This, despite the fact that 99.9 percent of children who get COVID don’t die from it and most don’t even have symptoms. Comparably, more children K–12 die from various other forms of the flu than from COVID, yet we are perpetuating a culture of fear among children in a form of politicized mass hysteria that treats COVID as if it were the Black Plague, which had a 100 percent mortality rate in its respiratory form across  ALL demographics.

I have to ask, What are we doing to our children? Some would say we’re protecting them. Others would add that we’re protecting any vulnerable adults they might come in contact with—despite growing evidence that young children are not contagious because the virus does not hang onto them like it does older people. We are also getting more evidence that people are not as contagious when they’re asymptomatic, as once believed, which means that standard protocol for any sickness would be sufficient—stay at home if you’re sick or if you immuno-compromised.

Instead of using common sense, we’re covering our young children and enshrouding them in an environment of fear, all the while calling it “kindness to others.” This could have damaging long-term effects on our children that far outweigh any threat from COVID.  ...

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[DB]

Right.   And do you see anyone actually holding China accountable for the lives lost and damage done?  Me neither.

China needs to pay dearly.

[jmyrlefuller]

What happened to the virus dies in the heat therefore summer months should kill it off?  Seems like it was wrong.

If it's wrong, it should rule out any "second wave" talk.

We do know it spreads in close quarters, in which weather is largely irrelevant. If you're close to a person, you'll breathe in their droplets before the sun has a chance to kill it, inside or out, which is why it was incredibly stupid for public officials to turn a blind eye to the riots and protests. BUT... the fomite hypothesis, the idea that it can be picked up on surfaces (which hasn't really been proven or disproven), might be affected. Untraceable infections from surfaces and wind stirring up the virus on the ground and allowing it to be inhaled might pick up in the winter months with less UV light.

[DB]

If it's wrong, it should rule out any "second wave" talk.

Once it got hot and dry in AZ it really picked up here. Hopefully monsoon will come along upping the humidity calming it down a little.

[jmyrlefuller]

Looking at the Worldometers charts, it appears Arizona seems to have begun to turn their situation around. Florida might have, but it's not quite clear yet. Texas is still having issues.

[DB]

If it's wrong, it should rule out any "second wave" talk.

We do know it spreads in close quarters, in which weather is largely irrelevant. If you're close to a person, you'll breathe in their droplets before the sun has a chance to kill it, inside or out, which is why it was incredibly stupid for public officials to turn a blind eye to the riots and protests. BUT... the fomite hypothesis, the idea that it can be picked up on surfaces (which hasn't really been proven or disproven), might be affected. Untraceable infections from surfaces and wind stirring up the virus on the ground and allowing it to be inhaled might pick up in the winter months with less UV light.

It is well known that with higher humidity it degrades how long viruses can linger in the air. It isn't understood why but there's a high correlation between humidity and viral infection rate.

[libertybele]

@libertybele
@mystery-ak

liberty, there are reasons some people cannot wear a mask.  I am sure that is what you saw in the doctor's office when one person did not have a mask on.  There was a sign in my doctor's office this week which listed conditions for one not to wear a mask.

Other information:
Doctors/nurses in hospitals treating/close to patients that have a communicable disease, have always worn N95 masks and face shields, from the time they were available, plus a gown to protect their clothing, plus special gloves.  Cloth masks only stop "some" of nose/mouth excretions of the wearer, but that is better than nothing.

I had appointment with family doctor 3 days ago, and wore an N95 and a face shield. The doctor asked where I got the N95.  Told him I had a box full due to being an EMT.  He said I was lucky I had those.  He knows they work.

I will be getting a new mask from England.  My son found these being made by a company that started making them after the virus became bad there.  They are a triple cloth (the cloth is an English made cloth), and with a removable filter and another filter included in the order.  Tests done with an aerosol showed the mask does filter 90% of the aerosol released in the air near the mask.  At 3 ft. from an infected person, you are safe with this mask, and at 6 ft., you are safe with this mask.  This does not protect the eyes. 
Regular glasses help, but there are special glasses for this, but if one uses a face shield along with this new mask, the eyes are protected along with the nose and mouth.

People here who think this is a hoax, think this is a government move to make them do something they do not want to do, are ridiculous.  They are like children, "But Mommm, I don't want to do that."     

Here in Texas, we know how bad it is. We had 10,975 new cases yesterday, July 15.  Corpus Christi had 500 new cases yesterday.  Refrigerated trucks are here and more coming in to store dead bodies due to so many dying and one or more of these new trucks are going to Corpus Christi. 

I don't know what Gov. Abbott will do next, whether he will issue an executive order restricting people to their houses and shut down business as was done earlier.  I JUST SAW GOV. ABBOTT ON TV WHILE WRITING THIS:  HE SAYS HE WILL NOT SHUT DOWN TEXAS AGAIN.

@Victoria33  I purchased a couple of silicone masks with some sort of adhesive on the side for a disposable filters and I purchased extra filters.  Woah, talk about hot and I had a hard time breathing, I could hardly wait to get out of the store so I could take it off.  Anyways, I would be interested in purchasing the filters you mentioned from England if you could provide that information, I would appreciate it.  I only have one anti-viral mask that I purchased years ago left.  So, all I currently have are the silicone masks that I can't breathe out of or the flimsy paper masks that are cheaply made and don't seem likely to do a whole lot.

[jmyrlefuller]

People here who think this is (...) a government move to make them do something they do not want to do, are ridiculous.  They are like children, "But Mommm, I don't want to do that."     

Such extreme, prolonged and widespread measures have never been attempted for virus control in America's history. The idea that government is using this as a plot to seize power and kill off the notion of limited government is not only possible, not even just likely, but proven—as anyone who has watched a Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer or Andrew Cuomo press conference can attest. Denying this is what is ridiculous.

[DB]

@libertybele
@mystery-ak

liberty, there are reasons some people cannot wear a mask.  I am sure that is what you saw in the doctor's office when one person did not have a mask on.  There was a sign in my doctor's office this week which listed conditions for one not to wear a mask.

Other information:
Doctors/nurses in hospitals treating/close to patients that have a communicable disease, have always worn N95 masks and face shields, from the time they were available, plus a gown to protect their clothing, plus special gloves.  Cloth masks only stop "some" of nose/mouth excretions of the wearer, but that is better than nothing.

I had appointment with family doctor 3 days ago, and wore an N95 and a face shield. The doctor asked where I got the N95.  Told him I had a box full due to being an EMT.  He said I was lucky I had those.  He knows they work.

I will be getting a new mask from England.  My son found these being made by a company that started making them after the virus became bad there.  They are a triple cloth (the cloth is an English made cloth), and with a removable filter and another filter included in the order.  Tests done with an aerosol showed the mask does filter 90% of the aerosol released in the air near the mask.  At 3 ft. from an infected person, you are safe with this mask, and at 6 ft., you are safe with this mask.  This does not protect the eyes. 
Regular glasses help, but there are special glasses for this, but if one uses a face shield along with this new mask, the eyes are protected along with the nose and mouth.

People here who think this is a hoax, think this is a government move to make them do something they do not want to do, are ridiculous.  They are like children, "But Mommm, I don't want to do that."     

Here in Texas, we know how bad it is. We had 10,975 new cases yesterday, July 15.  Corpus Christi had 500 new cases yesterday.  Refrigerated trucks are here and more coming in to store dead bodies due to so many dying and one or more of these new trucks are going to Corpus Christi. 

I don't know what Gov. Abbott will do next, whether he will issue an executive order restricting people to their houses and shut down business as was done earlier.  I JUST SAW GOV. ABBOTT ON TV WHILE WRITING THIS:  HE SAYS HE WILL NOT SHUT DOWN TEXAS AGAIN.

Before masks became particularly political: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372?rfr_dat=cr_pub%3Dpubmed

[DB]

Such extreme, prolonged and widespread measures have never been attempted for virus control in America's history. The idea that government is using this as a plot to seize power and kill off the notion of limited government is not only possible, not even just likely, but proven—as anyone who has watched a Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer or Andrew Cuomo press conference can attest. Denying this is what is ridiculous.

A paper or cloth mask is strictly psychological. It is "doing something" to make people feel safer. There's lots of data regarding masks and virus spread prior to this event. None that I've seen supports the claim that these masks do squat. As the New England Journal of Medicine article above states.

[roamer_1]

@Victoria33  I purchased a couple of silicone masks with some sort of adhesive on the side for a disposable filters and I purchased extra filters.  Woah, talk about hot and I had a hard time breathing, I could hardly wait to get out of the store so I could take it off.  Anyways, I would be interested in purchasing the filters you mentioned from England if you could provide that information, I would appreciate it.  I only have one anti-viral mask that I purchased years ago left.  So, all I currently have are the silicone masks that I can't breathe out of or the flimsy paper masks that are cheaply made and don't seem likely to do a whole lot.

If you really are worried, go buy a painter's respirator and a roll of paper and charcoal filters. Twenty should cover the mask.

It has a skull cap you cinch down once the silicone mask is in place. It has an exahust port, so your exhalation moisture evacuates... I have literally been in one of those masks all day long. many a time. Way more comfortable, and far more effective.

[roamer_1]

Such extreme, prolonged and widespread measures have never been attempted for virus control in America's history. The idea that government is using this as a plot to seize power and kill off the notion of limited government is not only possible, not even just likely, but proven—as anyone who has watched a Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer or Andrew Cuomo press conference can attest. Denying this is what is ridiculous.

That's right.

[bigheadfred]

I got an email from Sam's Club they will start mandatory masks for shoppers 7/20. Heard Wallyworld will do the same.

[Cyber Liberty]

I got an email from Sam's Club they will start mandatory masks for shoppers 7/20. Heard Wallyworld will do the same.

Yeah, I got that too.  Yaay!  Free spit masks!

[libertybele]

If you really are worried, go buy a painter's respirator and a roll of paper and charcoal filters. Twenty should cover the mask.

It has a skull cap you cinch down once the silicone mask is in place. It has an exahust port, so your exhalation moisture evacuates... I have literally been in one of those masks all day long. many a time. Way more comfortable, and far more effective.

Only problem is, Home Depot, Lowe's, Ace Hardware, Amazon and the local paint shops have been out of stock for months. 

[Smokin Joe]

Once it got hot and dry in AZ it really picked up here. Hopefully monsoon will come along upping the humidity calming it down a little.

Maybe it hitch hikes on dust....

[roamer_1]

Maybe it hitch hikes on dust....

It migrates through children's nightmares and wafts into existence in the shadows of demons. It is impervious to heat and light, and cold and dark... It swims in oceans and is found on the highest peaks. And the only hope we have is in a magical elixer called 'vaccine', made from the dust of a thousand unicorn farts...

We are well and truly all going to die.

[roamer_1]

Only problem is, Home Depot, Lowe's, Ace Hardware, Amazon and the local paint shops have been out of stock for months.

Yeah, yeah... My local paint house has em... out back... you know, for painters. If you have kith or kin that is in the business... well, you know...

[libertybele]

Maybe it hitch hikes on dust....

Humidity doesn't seem to have an impact. We average right now 80-90% humidity in SWFL even along the coast -- our cases are out of control.  Another 13,000+ cases today and another 150+ deaths.

Everyone is running their air conditioners right now too, so I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. 

[bigheadfred]

Sam's said they would provide a mask.

Run in a circle 24 times and you have dozens.

[Smokin Joe]

It migrates through children's nightmares and wafts into existence in the shadows of demons. It is impervious to heat and light, and cold and dark... It swims in oceans and is found on the highest peaks. And the only hope we have is in a magical elixer called 'vaccine', made from the dust of a thousand unicorn farts...

We are well and truly all going to die.

I KNEW it!

That sh*t IS hiding under the bed!

[Smokin Joe]

Humidity doesn't seem to have an impact. We average right now 80-90% humidity in SWFL even along the coast -- our cases are out of control.  Another 13,000+ cases today and another 150+ deaths.

Everyone is running their air conditioners right now too, so I'm sure that has a lot to do with it.

Shut down the AC, clean the filter and spray it down with disinfectant...once a week.

[Cyber Liberty]

Sam's said they would provide a mask.

Run in a circle 24 times and you have dozens.

The Sam's near me has curbside now...like the Walmart.  That means I don't get the chance to swipe a dozen or two spit masks.  The upside is I don't have to see Walmartians.

I have to pick up some stuff at Home Despot tomorrow, maybe I'll use the app to have them leave the stuff in the lockers in the front of the store.  I'm lazy AF.

[libertybele]

Shut down the AC, clean the filter and spray it down with disinfectant...once a week.

I change out the filter every 30 days, and yes, I've been spraying the filter with Lysol since the Chinese virus paid the U.S.A. a visit. I open the front and back of the house to get a cross breeze every morning for a bit so at least some "new" air is circulating.  Some people spray down the coils on the air handler, but I think that would probably harm the unit?? 

The other alternative would be to have a UV air filter installed.

[bigheadfred]

I change out the filter every 30 days, and yes, I've been spraying the filter with Lysol since the Chinese virus paid the U.S.A. a visit. I open the front and back of the house to get a cross breeze every morning for a bit so at least some "new" air is circulating.  Some people spray down the coils on the air handler, but I think that would probably harm the unit?? 

The other alternative would be to have a UV air filter installed.

Just move to Idaho.

[libertybele]

Just move to Idaho.

   Ya, well, there's a few places that I probably should have moved to; Colorado, Utah.  I have lived in two extreme climates; Fairbanks Alaska and SW Florida and I've been living in this subtropical paradise (hurricanes excluded) for almost 30 years. I am not so sure that the cold is for me; mountains and mountain air absolutely yes, but the winter cold, not so sure I could tolerate it anymore.

[bigheadfred]

  Ya, well, there's a few places that I probably should have moved to; Colorado, Utah.  I have lived in two extreme climates; Fairbanks Alaska and SW Florida and I've been living in this subtropical paradise (hurricanes excluded) for almost 30 years. I am not so sure that the cold is for me; mountains and mountain air absolutely yes, but the winter cold, not so sure I could tolerate it anymore.

Our winters have been mild the last few years. 

But we have had a cool spring and summer this year. Back in the first half of June still using the furnace with highs in the 40s and 50s. Tomorrow it is supposed to be 95. Should have been there a month ago.

Mornings are cold. 49 This morning. And that was the high for the low this week.

[roamer_1]

  Ya, well, there's a few places that I probably should have moved to; Colorado, Utah.  I have lived in two extreme climates; Fairbanks Alaska and SW Florida and I've been living in this subtropical paradise (hurricanes excluded) for almost 30 years. I am not so sure that the cold is for me; mountains and mountain air absolutely yes, but the winter cold, not so sure I could tolerate it anymore.

Meh... Don't have to be that way... Down south of right here, in the Hot Springs area, the winters are nearly always mild. And believe it or not,  they have hot springs!!

And no doubt you know that a good wood fire chases all the cold away. And what's the difference between staying in your house all summer or staying in your house all winter?

[mountaineer]

Before masks became particularly political: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372?rfr_dat=cr_pub%3Dpubmed

Exactly.

[libertybele]

Meh... Don't have to be that way... Down south of right here, in the Hot Springs area, the winters are nearly always mild. And believe it or not,  they have hot springs!!

And no doubt you know that a good wood fire chases all the cold away. And what's the difference between staying in your house all summer or staying in your house all winter?

When we lived up north a wood stove was a luxury to me. I don't miss Michigan where I lived a good portion of my life. Too gloomy and overcast all the time. I do love the mountains, there is just no denying that.

Here I don't stay in all summer; I usually walk the parks in the morning when it is cooler or in the evening when it's a bit cooler, so I'm not cooped up all day, or I do some yard work in the morning.  I go outside a couple of times during the day and just walk around in the yard or play with the dog, sometimes I'll sit outside on the porch and read a book (I'm used to the heat).  In the wintertime, I do about the same, I just put on long sleeves and pants and a warm jacket on our coldest days.  So I'm able to go outside most days.  Before we moved we had a pool, so I was outside most of the time, but in downsizing a pool was no longer an option.  It's ok when they're first built, but after awhile you have to start replacing filters, pool pumps, lanai decking and screens, and then you have the cost of chlorine and other chemicals, etc. and the cost of the electricity to run the pump for at least 8 hours to avoid algae. 

[roamer_1]

When we lived up north a wood stove was a luxury to me. I don't miss Michigan where I lived a good portion of my life. Too gloomy and overcast all the time. I do love the mountains, there is just no denying that.

Here I don't stay in all summer; I usually walk the parks in the morning when it is cooler or in the evening when it's a bit cooler, so I'm not cooped up all day, or I do some yard work in the morning.  I go outside a couple of times during the day and just walk around in the yard or play with the dog, sometimes I'll sit outside on the porch and read a book (I'm used to the heat).  In the wintertime, I do about the same, I just put on long sleeves and pants and a warm jacket on our coldest days.  So I'm able to go outside most days.  Before we moved we had a pool, so I was outside most of the time, but in downsizing a pool was no longer an option.  It's ok when they're first built, but after awhile you have to start replacing filters, pool pumps, lanai decking and screens, and then you have the cost of chlorine and other chemicals, etc. and the cost of the electricity to run the pump for at least 8 hours to avoid algae.

I ain't never had a pool, and wouldn't want one. I think all they do is make it easier to avoid the river, which is where i would prefer to be  anyhow.

But I am fixin to get me a Jacuzzi. When the back porch goes on that is allowed for (on the other side from the outdoor kitchen). Mine will be a cedar tub, and wood fired. An absolutely necessary piece of kit for an elder. But for it to actually work, it has to be your own, where you can slide out of it, into a hot shower, and fall directly into bed. Every other scenario is faulty.

But I get out most days, even in the winter. I am no longer tied to chores, as my sons pick it up when I won't, so it would be easy enough to forego in inclement times. But I learned long ago to be out in it anyway... Because I get used to it quick enough, and that is the secret to survival anywhere.

Even so, other than the big freeze, usually in Jan, where we go 10's or 20's below pretty regularly for 2 weeks to a month, and outside of the odd year where we get buried in snow (One of those in the 7 years I have been here, where I literally had no place else to put it), for the most part, we stay in the 20's and 30's as a rule... It ain't all that.

[mountaineer]

Mindy Robinson @iheartmindy
·
18h
Cloth masks are the equivalent of wearing a sock as a condom. It’s uncomfortable, looks dumb, and absolutely doesn’t work.

#NoMoreMasks

Amen.

[roamer_1]

Amen.

To which?
 

[sneakypete]

Amen.

@mountaineer

Yeah,but deys stylish! Doan yew wanna be different and stylish like eberbodie else?

[mountaineer]

I sewed a cloth mask that I deliberately made loose. It is my Walmart/Kroger mask. It falls down all the time, rarely covering the nose and barely covering my mouth. The stores require masks, but they don't require them to fit. Considering most people's masks are worn improperly and they don't do anything to prevent the spread, anyway, I have no remorse. 

[Bigun]

I sewed a cloth mask that I deliberately made loose. It is my Walmart/Kroger mask. It falls down all the time, rarely covering the nose and barely covering my mouth. The stores require masks, but they don't require them to fit. Considering most people's masks are worn improperly and they don't do anything to prevent the spread, anyway, I have no remorse. 

 

[bigheadfred]

NOW I Know!

What they meant by put a sock in it.

[mountaineer]

Don't forget your mask this weekend!

[bigheadfred]

Don't forget your mask this weekend!

"Cold" filtered, right?

[mountaineer]

Filters everything but the hops and malt.

[mountaineer]

From the Canadian publication, the Post Millennial:

Making face masks mandatory is not backed by science or law
Government policies are still based on the panic of March, rather than on the facts known in July.
John Carpay
July 25, 2020 10:30 AM


Some Canadian municipalities are passing laws that force all citizens to wear non-medical masks in indoor places open to the public, including (for example) shopping malls and houses of worship.

The people who brought us the harm-causing lockdowns are the same people now wanting to make mask-wearing compulsory. The curve is flat, and has been for months. COVID-19 deaths peaked in March or April (depending on which jurisdiction) and now continue to decline, even while increased testing exposes more "cases." If masks were not required to flatten the curve, why should they be required now?

Many leading doctors and public health officials from around the world support mandatory mask-wearing. But this does not mean that the science is settled.

One study states that cloth masks pose a 13 percent increased risk of influenza-like illness infection to those wearing them, noting that "moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks, and poor filtration may result in an increased risk of infection." This past April, the World Health Organization (WHO) also confirmed that masks "offer a false sense of security, leading to potentially less adherence to other preventive measures." ...

Read entire article

[Gefn]

I’m thinking of getting a medieval plague mask. What do you all think?

[Applewood]

I’m thinking of getting a medieval plague mask. What do you all think?

Sounds good to me.    I want one with a cat face on it.  Saw a photo of a woman wearing one  while holding her cat.  The face on the mask was of a black and white cat similar to the cat the woman was holding.