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American Military News by Laura Widener   June 16, 2020

Trump signs executive order banning chokeholds, reforming police departments nationwide

President Trump signed a new executive order on Tuesday to reform police departments nationwide, including a ban on chokeholds except for situations in which an officer’s life is endangered.

Ahead of his signing, Trump said his executive order is aimed at “encouraging police departments nationwide to adopt the highest professional standards to serve their communities. These standards will be as high and a strong as there is on earth.”

“Chokeholds will be banned except if an officer’s life is at risk,” Trump noted.

Trump called the order a “big, big step” and lauded the opportunity to pursue common sense and fight for a joint cause.

More: https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/06/trump-signs-executive-order-banning-chokeholds-reforming-police-departments-nationwide/

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IDIOT.

Does he even have the authority for any of it? 

And notice -- more tax dollars being spent.  Typical government response to a phony crisis -- throw money around.

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Does he even have the authority for any of it? 

And notice -- more tax dollars being spent.  Typical government response to a phony crisis -- throw money around.

Yes there is authority. Federal cert is what he is talking about. Fedral cert has to do with LEO organizations interfacing with the federal system, which has to be there...
But that doesn't make it right.
Pandering a**.
And yeah, More money. Always more money.

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IDIOT.
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Roamer, you're being much too kind.
In history, the greatest leaders were those who grasped the vital importance and power of Prudence;
whereby decisions made in the now had to be measured against their impact on the future.
As such, reflection and reasoning prior to reacting, was a guiding maxim for them.
Over the past 100 years, voters have accepted a succession of buffoons, clowns, frauds, hustlers
and jackasses as their leaders; the consequence of this on our national psyche being self-evident
and average people know this in their bones. The ethos of our Founders has disappeared.
An aside:
The usual suspects, ceaselessly conflate conservatism and politics; oblivious to the reality that they have no interdependence on each other. None!
Prudence was/remains a cardinal precept of Principled Conservatism as asserted by the likes of
Plato and Edmund Burke.



 

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Roamer, you're being much too kind.
In history, the greatest leaders were those who grasped the vital importance and power of Prudence;
whereby decisions made in the now had to be measured against their impact on the future.
As such, reflection and reasoning prior to reacting, was a guiding maxim for them.
Over the past 100 years, voters have accepted a succession of buffoons, clowns, frauds, hustlers
and jackasses as their leaders; the consequence of this on our national psyche being self-evident
and average people know this in their bones. The ethos of our Founders has disappeared.
An aside:
The usual suspects, ceaselessly conflate conservatism and politics; oblivious to the reality that they have no interdependence on each other. None!
Prudence was/remains a cardinal precept of Principled Conservatism as asserted by the likes of
Plato and Edmund Burke.

I am sorry @Absalom ... It is difficult to be both succinct and descriptive at the same time. I was going for a blast of indignation, thus the caps... I will endeavor to do more.  :laugh:

Of course you are right. Yours is an argument toward statesmen instead of politicians, and is oft my prayer. Would that others would be so bold as to demand it.

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President Donald J. Trump Is
Taking Unprecedented Steps To
Strengthen Relations Between Law
Enforcement And Their
Communities

Issued on: June 16, 2020


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We must invest more energy and resources in police training and recruiting and community engagement.”  President Donald J. Trump

IMPLEMENTING BEST PRACTICES: President Donald J. Trump is taking historic action to increase the adoption of best practices in law enforcement and support a safe and secure America.

•President Trump is issuing a new Executive Order that will encourage law enforcement agencies to implement best practices and protect the communities they serve. •Our law enforcement officers provide critical protection to all Americans, and we need to work collectively to strengthen relationships across our country.
•Under the Order, the Attorney General will allocate certain grant funding to only those law enforcement agencies that meet high standards, including around use-of-force and de-escalation, as credentialed by reputable independent bodies.
•The Order provides incentives for law enforcement agencies to use a nationwide database to track terminations, criminal convictions, and civil judgments against law enforcement officers for excessive use-of-force, which will create accountability between agencies.
•The Administration will prioritize training and other programs for police and social workers responding to incidents involving the mentally ill, addicted, and homeless.
•President Trump is directing his Administration to develop and propose new legislation to Congress to further the policies of the Order and build community engagement.

UNITING AMERICAN COMMUNITIES: President Trump is taking action to unite our Nation and ensure safer communities for all Americans.

•Every day, law enforcement officers make great sacrifices to keep our citizens safe.
•Last year alone, 89 law enforcement officers were killed in the line of duty.
•In 2018, our police arrested nearly 12,000 people for murder and manslaughter, 25,000 people for rape, and nearly 1.5 million for assault.
•The overwhelming majority of the law enforcement community bravely perform their duties with integrity and honor.
•Close ties between law enforcement and their communities are important in all communities.
•President Trump’s Order seeks to redouble our efforts as a Nation to engage directly with our neighbors and secure lasting relationships across all communities.

KEEPING AMERICANS SAFE: President Trump is improving fairness and equality in our criminal justice system, while keeping our communities safe.

•President Trump has led the way on groundbreaking criminal justice reform, taking a smart-on-crime approach to make our communities safer.
•The President brought together a broad coalition including law enforcement, faith groups, community organizations, and more to support the First Step Act.
•The President established the Presidential Commission on Law Enforcement and the Administration of Justice, examining how to improve community relations between the public and law enforcement.
•President Trump revitalized Project Safe Neighborhoods to help reduce violent crime in communities all around the country.
•Thanks to the President’s efforts, both the violent crime rate and murder rate in America have fallen for two consecutive years.



The White House



https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-taking-unprecedented-steps-strengthen-relations-law-enforcement-communities/
 

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IMPLEMENTING BEST PRACTICES: President Donald J. Trump is taking historic action to increase the adoption of best practices in law enforcement and support a safe and secure America.

•President Trump is issuing a new Executive Order that will encourage law enforcement agencies to implement best practices and protect the communities they serve. •Our law enforcement officers provide critical protection to all Americans, and we need to work collectively to strengthen relationships across our country.
•Under the Order, the Attorney General will allocate certain grant funding to only those law enforcement agencies that meet high standards, including around use-of-force and de-escalation, as credentialed by reputable independent bodies.
•The Order provides incentives for law enforcement agencies to use a nationwide database to track terminations, criminal convictions, and civil judgments against law enforcement officers for excessive use-of-force, which will create accountability between agencies.
•The Administration will prioritize training and other programs for police and social workers responding to incidents involving the mentally ill, addicted, and homeless.
•President Trump is directing his Administration to develop and propose new legislation to Congress to further the policies of the Order and build community engagement.

UNITING AMERICAN COMMUNITIES: President Trump is taking action to unite our Nation and ensure safer communities for all Americans.

•Every day, law enforcement officers make great sacrifices to keep our citizens safe.
•Last year alone, 89 law enforcement officers were killed in the line of duty.
•In 2018, our police arrested nearly 12,000 people for murder and manslaughter, 25,000 people for rape, and nearly 1.5 million for assault.
•The overwhelming majority of the law enforcement community bravely perform their duties with integrity and honor.
•Close ties between law enforcement and their communities are important in all communities.
•President Trump’s Order seeks to redouble our efforts as a Nation to engage directly with our neighbors and secure lasting relationships across all communities.

KEEPING AMERICANS SAFE: President Trump is improving fairness and equality in our criminal justice system, while keeping our communities safe.

•President Trump has led the way on groundbreaking criminal justice reform, taking a smart-on-crime approach to make our communities safer.
•The President brought together a broad coalition including law enforcement, faith groups, community organizations, and more to support the First Step Act.
•The President established the Presidential Commission on Law Enforcement and the Administration of Justice, examining how to improve community relations between the public and law enforcement.
•President Trump revitalized Project Safe Neighborhoods to help reduce violent crime in communities all around the country.
•Thanks to the President’s efforts, both the violent crime rate and murder rate in America have fallen for two consecutive years.



The White House



https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-taking-unprecedented-steps-strengthen-relations-law-enforcement-communities/
Seems like a balanced response to the current madness... steer the conversation back to something resembling sanity.

And given the president's authority is extremely limited. The problems, where there are problems, are all local and locally solved.

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I don't think this is going to have a whole lot of impact on what's going on; our police departments are still becoming defunded and dismantled....and the autonomous zones continue.  It's not going to make much difference that he signed an e.o. if the police continue to walk off the job.

Is the time ripe yet to restore order where the thugs are camping out or are we going to wait to we have autonomous zones in every major city and no police?  No police?  Oh wait ... then how are we ever going to restore order???
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What a moron.

You were right what you said before -- it's pandering.  Trump is up for re-election, so he is going to promise everyone the moon and in a manufactured crisis, he is going to have to be seen as doing something.  I don't believe any of the objectives of this order will be met.    It will be like President Bush 43's promise after  9-11 that all the various agencies, state, local and federal, would share information.  That never happened.  All these objectives from Trump's executive orders will not be fulfilled either.

But, boy, a lot of money will be spent in the name of carrying out that order.

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Seems like a balanced response to the current madness... steer the conversation back to something resembling sanity.

And given the president's authority is extremely limited. The problems, where there are problems, are all local and locally solved.

But, if you recall he stated several times if he had to come in and take action he would.  Something has to be done.
Romans 12:16-21

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"•President Trump is issuing a new Executive Order that will encourage law enforcement agencies to implement best practices..."
"•Under the Order, the Attorney General will allocate certain grant funding to only those law enforcement agencies that meet high standards..."
"•The Order provides incentives for law enforcement agencies..."

Not much of an ORDER... more of a guideline..

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If a police officer is fighting for his life then that hold may be one is aptly needed. Again tying the arms of the police behind their own backs.
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If a police officer is fighting for his life then that hold may be one is aptly needed. Again tying the arms of the police behind their own backs.

The e.o. did specify except for situations in which an officer’s life is endangered.  You are correct ... tying the arms of the police officers are only going to cause more to walk away from the force.

How about we tie the hands of the thugs ruling the autonomous zones?  How about allowing our police and national guard restore law and order with whatever force necessary. 


Romans 12:16-21

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But, if you recall he stated several times if he had to come in and take action he would.  Something has to be done.
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The "something must be done" mantra is music to the ears of our political assholery.
To them, it translates; "Hmm.......then I guess anything, everything can get done. Whoopee !"
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Seems like a balanced response to the current madness... steer the conversation back to something resembling sanity.

And given the president's authority is extremely limited. The problems, where there are problems, are all local and locally solved.

Agree @skeeter

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Does he even have the authority for any of it? 

And notice -- more tax dollars being spent.  Typical government response to a phony crisis -- throw money around.

ROFL!  Screw you, with your "more tax dollars spent".

Other than his tweeting, this is your one-trick pony issue.   He's the POTUS.  Not the Legislature which dictates spending.
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ROFL!  Screw you, with your "more tax dollars spent".

Other than his tweeting, this is your one-trick pony issue.   He's the POTUS.  Not the Legislature which dictates spending.

He signed for every bit of that money.

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this is your one-trick pony issue.

@DCPatriot

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ROFL!  Screw you, with your "more tax dollars spent".
Other than his tweeting, this is your one-trick pony issue.   He's the POTUS.  Not the Legislature which dictates spending.
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Another thoughtful retort, from one of the predictable suspects.
The affinity of Trump and his Fan Club is utterly romantic.

 





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ROFL!  Screw you, with your "more tax dollars spent".

If you were a real patriot as your handle suggests, you would be concerned about the runaway spending too.  But I guess if you're a Trump supporter and he is the one throwing tax dollars down the rabbit hole, then I guess it's ok.

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Other than his tweeting, this is your one-trick pony issue.   He's the POTUS.  Not the Legislature which dictates spending.

No there are quite a few other things I've been critical of. And while congress passes the spending spree bills, the president is the one who signs off on them.  Trump has signed every one that has come to his desk.  No one put a gun to his head to force him to sign.  He did that on his own. Once he signs these spending bills into law, he is culpable right along with congress.  Your attempts to absolve him of that blame are laughable.
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Another thoughtful retort, from one of the predictable suspects.
The affinity of Trump and his Fan Club is utterly romantic.

Trump has on a few occasions declared himself not responsible when things go wrong and he blames others.  His supporters always agree with whatever excuse he comes up with.  It's become a predictable  pattern with every failure and misstep of this president. 

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Trump has on a few occasions declared himself not responsible when things go wrong and he blames others.  His supporters always agree with whatever excuse he comes up with.  It's become a predictable  pattern with every failure and misstep of this president.
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