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Mnuchin says employees who reject offer to return to work are ineligible for unemployment benefits

By Brooke Singman | Fox News

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin warned on Tuesday that individuals who reject an offer from their company to return to work after being laid off due to coronavirus are no longer considered eligible to receive federal unemployment benefits.

Mnuchin said that companies receiving benefits under the Payroll Protection Program who are inviting employees who had been laid off or furloughed due to the coronavirus crisis to return to work should plan to notify state unemployment offices of their offers.

If the employee, in turn, turns down the job, they would then be considered ineligible to receive expanded unemployment benefits.

“If you offer a person a job..and that person does not take the job..then that person would not be allowed to get unemployment,” Mnuchin said Tuesday.

Mnuchin’s comments come as Republican lawmakers have ramped up warnings that the recent boost in jobless benefits amid COVID-19 will “push unemployment higher,” as many individuals are able to collect more money through the unemployment programs than they made while on the job.

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Mnuchin says employees who reject offer to return to work are ineligible for unemployment benefits

By Brooke Singman | Fox News

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin warned on Tuesday that individuals who reject an offer from their company to return to work after being laid off due to coronavirus are no longer considered eligible to receive federal unemployment benefits.

Mnuchin said that companies receiving benefits under the Payroll Protection Program who are inviting employees who had been laid off or furloughed due to the coronavirus crisis to return to work should plan to notify state unemployment offices of their offers.

If the employee, in turn, turns down the job, they would then be considered ineligible to receive expanded unemployment benefits.

“If you offer a person a job..and that person does not take the job..then that person would not be allowed to get unemployment,” Mnuchin said Tuesday.

Mnuchin’s comments come as Republican lawmakers have ramped up warnings that the recent boost in jobless benefits amid COVID-19 will “push unemployment higher,” as many individuals are able to collect more money through the unemployment programs than they made while on the job.

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Great idea!  Otherwise most will sit at home and draw a check.

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Interesting ... on the other hand; people can claim that they are "afraid" of going back to work because of COVID-19 and still collect unemployment and also those that have children that can't return to work can collect unemployment.

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/19/855936820/scared-to-return-to-work-or-cant-with-kids-at-home-here-s-what-you-need-to-know
« Last Edit: May 20, 2020, 02:24:30 am by libertybele »

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Most States (to my knowledge) have this, that an offer of suitable employment in that same work area and at rates of pay commensurate with those received for performing the same duties by the unemployed person in the recent past must have some compelling reason for refusal or otherwise not being taken as an offer of suitable employment, or the person becomes unemployed by choice, and not through no fault of their own.

In this State, that would make a person ineligible for benefits.
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Mnuchin says employees who reject offer to return to work are ineligible for unemployment benefits

By Brooke Singman | Fox News

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin warned on Tuesday that individuals who reject an offer from their company to return to work after being laid off due to coronavirus are no longer considered eligible to receive federal unemployment benefits.


Isn't that the way it's supposed to work?
 
 
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Isn't that the way it's supposed to work?
I've talked with quite a few folks here who will make more money drawing unemployment, than going back to work.  So guess what they planned on doing?  If the government removes the extra $500 or $600 a month in extra benefits, then it's hi ho...hi ho...it's off to work they go...lol.

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Off topic, but can’t we please spare an ‘i’ to give to this poor man stuck with a last name that starts with two consonants?

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Off topic, but can’t we please spare an ‘i’ to give to this poor man stuck with a last name that starts with two consonants?
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I've talked with quite a few folks here who will make more money drawing unemployment, than going back to work.  So guess what they planned on doing?  If the government removes the extra $500 or $600 a month in extra benefits, then it's hi ho...hi ho...it's off to work they go...lol.

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Yup,which IS why that is the way it is supposed to work.

We need workers working jobs and providing for themselves and their families,not pets.
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Off topic, but can’t we please spare an ‘i’ to give to this poor man stuck with a last name that starts with two consonants?

@aligncare

I always see it and "hear it in my head" as "Munchkin",anyhow.
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I've talked with quite a few folks here who will make more money drawing unemployment, than going back to work.  So guess what they planned on doing?  If the government removes the extra $500 or $600 a month in extra benefits, then it's hi ho...hi ho...it's off to work they go...lol.

I have two letters from my doctor stating I should shelter in place until the "crisis" is over. I am in two high risk categories: over 60, and diabetic. Sorry, I'm staying home until things are clearer. IMO, it's still too damn murky, given the majority of businesses requiring the wearing of masks.

If the feds stopped the $600 a week, I'd still follow my doctor's orders...it's not worth it to me for the $200 a week I was making part time. I didn't write these rules. I can see the reasoning behind the extra money, without it you'd see a redux of the soup lines during the Depression.

My wife and I are using most of the mortgage deferrals to build up our cash should things get worse. We've got a granddaughter arriving next month, and her parents are subject to reduced hours at work.
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I have two letters from my doctor stating I should shelter in place until the "crisis" is over. I am in two high risk categories: over 60, and diabetic. Sorry, I'm staying home until things are clearer. IMO, it's still too damn murky, given the majority of businesses requiring the wearing of masks.



I see that a lot of people are not going out whether they are high risk or not. As you said, things are still too murky (a great descriptive word, I might add). Plus the fact that a lot of people don't have the money to eat out and shop like they did. I have been very blessed that I was already retired before this craziness started.

I'm not Debby Downer by nature...but I could see another big hit coming for the economy in the not to distant future due to lack of sales, whether businesses are open of not. I hope I am needlessly worried.

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I see that a lot of people are not going out whether they are high risk or not. As you said, things are still too murky (a great descriptive word, I might add). Plus the fact that a lot of people don't have the money to eat out and shop like they did. I have been very blessed that I was already retired before this craziness started.

I'm not Debby Downer by nature...but I could see another big hit coming for the economy in the not to distant future due to lack of sales, whether businesses are open of not. I hope I am needlessly worried.
Maybe I'm just not seeing it in my little corner of the world in West Texas.  I see people EVERYWHERE!  Our 2 Lowes and Home Depot's are packed.  I have to admit though I only saw 2 cars at one of our local great BBQ places at lunch.  I guess people are slow to go back to those...so far.

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Maybe I'm just not seeing it in my little corner of the world in West Texas.  I see people EVERYWHERE!  Our 2 Lowes and Home Depot's are packed.  I have to admit though I only saw 2 cars at one of our local great BBQ places at lunch.  I guess people are slow to go back to those...so far.



Yeah...I'm thinking more along the lines of restaurants and malls and such. I saw on the news barber shops/salons were doing a bang up business. I haven't been to a Home Deficit out here (30 miles away) so I don't know what traffic they have.

(Thread drift..my dearly departed was from the Abilene area and I'm still close to his family. Interesting area if a little bit tough. I'm more in the piney woods. :seeya:)

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I see that a lot of people are not going out whether they are high risk or not. As you said, things are still too murky (a great descriptive word, I might add). Plus the fact that a lot of people don't have the money to eat out and shop like they did. I have been very blessed that I was already retired before this craziness started.

I'm not Debby Downer by nature...but I could see another big hit coming for the economy in the not to distant future due to lack of sales, whether businesses are open of not. I hope I am needlessly worried.

You aren't the only one who sees "another big hit coming". A couple of weeks ago, the FDIC sent letters to those of us who worked during the bank crisis from 2008-2014, when over 500 banks were closed. They're using our responses to build a data base to call from the next time the SHTF.

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Yeah...I'm thinking more along the lines of restaurants and malls and such. I saw on the news barber shops/salons were doing a bang up business. I haven't been to a Home Deficit out here (30 miles away) so I don't know what traffic they have.

(Thread drift..my dearly departed was from the Abilene area and I'm still close to his family. Interesting area if a little bit tough. I'm more in the piney woods. :seeya:)
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I've talked with quite a few folks here who will make more money drawing unemployment, than going back to work.  So guess what they planned on doing?  If the government removes the extra $500 or $600 a month in extra benefits, then it's hi ho...hi ho...it's off to work they go...lol.

Who would want to go to work if they can sit on their butts and collect double pay?  Bipartisan Socialism.
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Who would want to go to work if they can sit on their butts and collect double pay?  Bipartisan Socialism.
Well, I did. It would not have been double pay, but close to what I had been making working 15 field days a month. That's our state maximum plus the 600 Federal...

But I decided to get a job instead.
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Well, I did. It would not have been double pay, but close to what I had been making working 15 field days a month. That's our state maximum plus the 600 Federal...

But I decided to get a job instead.

I also have worked the entire time.  I could have stayed home, and many did.  I said that out of sarcasm.  Many people would rather stay home and get the extra money.
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Well, I did. It would not have been double pay, but close to what I had been making working 15 field days a month. That's our state maximum plus the 600 Federal...

But I decided to get a job instead.

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As much as it pains me to admit she is right,I THINK what she was writing about his people who hold jobs purely for economic reasons,not people who work because they love working and are working at jobs they love.

My father spent the majority of his life working as a carpenter,a job he disliked,if not hated. He did it because he had a family support,and that was the best-paying job he was qualified to get.

Someone famous whose name slips my alleged mind at the moment described lives like this as "Lives of quiet desperation".

I am one of those people who were lucky or stubborn enough to never do that. The closest I came was a couple of times when I was forced to take an office job out of desperation. This did not work out for me or anyone around me. The first time was in the army,when I was assigned to work inside a signal communications center. I damn near got kicked out of the army over that. Square peg,round hole.

 Luckily,a kindly SGM talked with me when the process to boot me out of the army started,and got me assigned to an A team as a junior radio operator,and suddenly the sun came out and the world was a wonderful place once again. I was only 18 at the time,and incapable of recognizing what was going on,or the reasons behind it. Lack of life experience.

Sadly,there are still many people trapped in job or careers they hate due to circumstances they can't control. It's like serving time for a crime you didn't commit.

Low paying jobs with no hope or chance of ever doing any better.

I don't know about you,but it's hard for me to not be sympathetic to people living under those circumstances,and I can understand why they would choose to take the money and stay home.

Temporarily,anyhow. I SUSPECT that most of them who have never done anything BUT work will soon get bored and go looking for another job that pays better and is something they enjoy doing. With these checks as backup and the free time to look,some of them may get lucky and find those jobs.

At any rate,these checks must NOT become another form of welfare as a lifestyle. The government MUST make it plain these checks will be the last ones.

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Yeah...I'm thinking more along the lines of restaurants and malls and such. I saw on the news barber shops/salons were doing a bang up business. I haven't been to a Home Deficit out here (30 miles away) so I don't know what traffic they have.

(Thread drift..my dearly departed was from the Abilene area and I'm still close to his family. Interesting area if a little bit tough. I'm more in the piney woods. :seeya:)
Were there still viable malls before this hit? I know that the malls around me have been dying for many years, with lots of square footage boarded up. Of course I have always hated crowds of people(OK people) so only entered and left the anchor stores I needed to with out entering the mall proper.

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@Smokin Joe  @Chosen Daughter

As much as it pains me to admit she is right,I THINK what she was writing about his people who hold jobs purely for economic reasons,not people who work because they love working and are working at jobs they love.

My father spent the majority of his life working as a carpenter,a job he disliked,if not hated. He did it because he had a family support,and that was the best-paying job he was qualified to get.

Someone famous whose name slips my alleged mind at the moment described lives like this as "Lives of quiet desperation".

I am one of those people who were lucky or stubborn enough to never do that. The closest I came was a couple of times when I was forced to take an office job out of desperation. This did not work out for me or anyone around me. The first time was in the army,when I was assigned to work inside a signal communications center. I damn near got kicked out of the army over that. Square peg,round hole.

 Luckily,a kindly SGM talked with me when the process to boot me out of the army started,and got me assigned to an A team as a junior radio operator,and suddenly the sun came out and the world was a wonderful place once again. I was only 18 at the time,and incapable of recognizing what was going on,or the reasons behind it. Lack of life experience.

Sadly,there are still many people trapped in job or careers they hate due to circumstances they can't control. It's like serving time for a crime you didn't commit.

Low paying jobs with no hope or chance of ever doing any better.

I don't know about you,but it's hard for me to not be sympathetic to people living under those circumstances,and I can understand why they would choose to take the money and stay home.

Temporarily,anyhow. I SUSPECT that most of them who have never done anything BUT work will soon get bored and go looking for another job that pays better and is something they enjoy doing. With these checks as backup and the free time to look,some of them may get lucky and find those jobs.

At any rate,these checks must NOT become another form of welfare as a lifestyle. The government MUST make it plain these checks will be the last ones.
I like to work, admittedly. Between wells, I have held a wide variety of jobs, and each has its mindset, pet peeves, and things to learn. One thing I learned early on, is that there is a 'trick' to doing almost any task, and completing it well, if not stupendously, with the least amount of swear and misery, so every one of those different jobs, I picked up as many of those little tricks of the trade as I could. While an odd sort of hobby, it has stood me well. Never miss an opportunity to learn.
I have also learned that there are a lot of jobs out there I really don't desire to have for even a span of years, not that I would not do them again as a mercenary endeavour (to pay the bills), and that even though it may not have been my career goal, there are other people who are perfectly content to do them.  Not everyone is cut out to be a rocket  surgeon, and not everyone would be happy doing that either. But whatever I do, I do my best at it, learn all I can, even if that means at the time that I am the best sh*t shoveler in the stable.
I have been fortunate enough to spend most years working in an industry I had no intent of going into (my angle was toward mining, not petroleum, but I have enjoyed the vast majority of that time, worked around some interesting characters, (some of that might have rubbed off on me), and been and seen places I might never have seen otherwise. In front of my house are rocks, brought in from the wild (and no small number inside), the latter of which are good enough for modest cabinet specimens of minerals and fossils I have found. So, all in all, it has been a good run. And now I have the rare opportunity to work for a paycheck with my grandson, who had no desire to pursue the end of the oil industry I did. It is a wonderful chance to do some mentoring, and at the same time to pay the bills, and yes, I have even learned a few things doing this.

It isn't that I don't have plenty of projects about the house, I do. But I need the time outside, too. 

Sometimes, it's about more than just money. This is a seasonal job, so come fall, hopefully oil will pick up again. If not, I have a pretty wide and varied skill set to draw upon, and either I will find something else, or If I end up on Unemployment, that will be the cosmic signal to end the bonus checks and go back to just the State rate, because that is how things seem to work out.

I agree, this should not become some morph of the socialist 'basic income' even for people who have been laid off.

If we can't find a job, it will be time to get creative and make one.
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Abilene is a great town with 3 Christian Universities.  We ARE the buckle of the Bible Belt. Being from here, he must have been great.   happy77

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Am betting if Mnuchin presses this, a judge will declare the company must offer a stay-at-home alternative if it is possible.
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When I think of Abilene i think of Joe Allen's Steakhouse/BBQ.  Absolutely great.

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