Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO

[Cyber Liberty]

That's all right... But no mercy for it. Just like no mercy for Tumpy when he's in error. If you ain't callin em on the carpet, you're accepting it outright, and part of the problem.

I don't mind holding feet to the fire.

I don't mind it either...even when it's my feet!

[catfish1957]

From the site......

"Tea Party", A Spinoff Political Entity In The Republican Party Of Ross Perot's 1990's Reform Party"

WTF does Perot have to do with this?  The "real" tea party was a brainchild of Rick Santelli, on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile in January 2009.  Calling out Obama on some of his initial Porkulus. Perot had absolutley zilch to do with this.  They can't even get their freakin history right.  Basic populist revisonist history bullshit.

Calling Cruz a RINO is about the most ridiculous thing I have heard.  I think this is a farce or joke side of an ultra-Trumper cult.  (look at the side ads).

Anyone mind telling me a senator more consistently conservative than Cruz the past 8 years?  I piss on bogus "hit-pieces" by organizations who are so historically challenged, they are a joke.

[andy58-in-nh]

From the site......

"Tea Party", A Spinoff Political Entity In The Republican Party Of Ross Perot's 1990's Reform Party"

WTF does Perot have to do with this?  The "real" tea party was a brainchild Rick Santelli, on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile in January 2009.  Calling out Obama on some of his initial Porkulus. Perot had absolutley zilch to do with this.  They can't even get their freakin history right.  Basic populist revisonist history bullshit.

Calling Cruz a RINO is about the most ridiculous thing I have heard.  I think this is a farce or joke side of an ultra-Trumper cult.  (look at the side ads).

Anyone mind telling me a senator more consistently conservative than Cruz the past 8 years?  I piss on bogus "hit-pieces" by organizations who are so historically challenged, they are a joke.

Ted Cruz is one of a shrinking handful of U.S. Senators with intelligence, guts and honor. He deserves our support.

Most of the rest of them are glorified state representatives with good teeth and hair and pallets of interest-group campaign cash who otherwise couldn't think their way out of a paper bag. 

[HoustonSam]

The MSM didn't want Ted, and they thought they could beat Trump.

That's about the best summary I've ever read, of anything.

[catfish1957]

Yes it is best to be truthful.  There have been several times where Cruz has cast a vote that I wasn't exactly happy with; that is until I was able to read the actual text of the bill and then realized why he voted the way that he did.

No where in the article has the actual piece(s) of legislation been referenced and as I stated I tried looking it up, but without the bill number or even the resolution number, I couldn't find it.

As for Cruz jumping on the Trump train -- he has stood behind him many times but he has also opposed him.  I tend to veer away from blog sites --- especially ones that don't show any references to what their 'blogging' about.

Very good points.  As Paul Harvery, always said..... "And Now.... "The rest of the Story".   I admit that Cruz has not batted a 1.000, but he has been spot on 90-95% of the time.  I welcome any other Briefer to expound their explanation of how any other senator has been a better advocate of the conservative cause.

[txradioguy]

I don't understand your question.

 Ted Cruz is born of CUBAN REFUGEE dad and jewish American mother in CANADA.  He had dual citizenship, which he renounced, to be able to run for president of USA.  I once supported Ted Cruz.  NOT ANY MORE, once I saw how he lied and how underhanded he is, was, still is.  TEA PARTY IS CORRECT.  Why would TEA PARTY MEMBERS LIE? 

Ted supports anything, that would make him look good to the public, like supporting TRUMP.  Riding his coat tails. POTUS USES DIPLOMACY IN DEALING WITH HIM.  I would not turn my back on Cruz.
Everyone will vote for whomever they want.  I just gave my issues & points about "lying Ted". I SAW those lies with my own, eyes & ears.  I DO NOT TRUST HIM ONE TINY BIT.  Do I need to detail those lies?

You buy tinfoil by the square foot don't you?

[Cyber Liberty]

You buy tinfoil by the square foot don't you?

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[Smokin Joe]

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[LegalAmerican]

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Such disrespect for POTUS.  You all think that is clever?  You think Ted Cruz is a great guy?  BORN IN CANADA. HE IS A DOMINIONIST.  HE DID VOTE FOR TPP.   NO  'BULL CRAP' as someone said on here.  THREE TRUTHS.....then posting  TIN FOIL. 

ALL YOU DO IS DESTROY AMERICA BY DOING THAT. 

[Smokin Joe]

Such disrespect for POTUS.  You all think that is clever?  You think Ted Cruz is a great guy?  BORN IN CANADA. HE IS A DOMINIONIST.  HE DID VOTE FOR TPP.   NO  'BULL CRAP' as someone said on here.  THREE TRUTHS.....then posting  TIN FOIL. 

ALL YOU DO IS DESTROY AMERICA BY DOING THAT.

OH GET THE KNOT OUT OF YOUR THONG.

IT'S FUNNY.

HAVE A LITTLE SENSE OF HUMOR.

[Axeslinger]

OH GET THE KNOT OUT OF YOUR THONG.

IT'S FUNNY.

HAVE A LITTLE SENSE OF HUMOR.

She literally said the other day that she thinks trump “is perfect”.  She is incapable of rational thought or humor on the subject

[Cyber Liberty]

Such disrespect for POTUS.  You all think that is clever?  You think Ted Cruz is a great guy?  BORN IN CANADA. HE IS A DOMINIONIST.  HE DID VOTE FOR TPP.   NO  'BULL CRAP' as someone said on here.  THREE TRUTHS.....then posting  TIN FOIL. 

ALL YOU DO IS DESTROY AMERICA BY DOING THAT.

Lighten up, Francis!

[Cyber Liberty]

She literally said the other day that she thinks trump “is perfect”.  She is incapable of rational thought or humor on the subject

I'll bet you can guess how I react when somebody shows no sense of humor....

[txradioguy]

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[Neverdul]

She literally said the other day that she thinks trump “is perfect”.  She is incapable of rational thought or humor on the subject

You had me at "She is incapable of rational thought".

[LilLamb]

I’ve been cruising around the internet learning more about Dominionism.  It seems some of the proof that you are a Dominionist is if you believe that our country was founded on Jude-Christian values.

Texas Lt Gov Dan Patrick is one because he said and I quote “because every problem we have in America has a solution in the Bible.”

One of the proofs that Ted Cruz is a Domionionist is that he said he was a Christian first and an American second.  He also had the audacity to say that the separation of church and state is a one way wall meant to protect the church from the state.

I found a list of other Dominionist and it’s a scary bunch of people.

James Dobson
Mike Huckabee
D. James Kennedy
Tim Lehaye (author of Left Behind series)
Tom Coburn
Jim DeMint
Sarah Palin
Michelle Bachman

Some organizations associated with

American Family Association
Council for National Policy
Eagle Forum
Family Research Council
Moral Majority
National Religious Broadcasters
Texas Republican Party

I’m pretty much sick of reading all that crap. It’s a ridiculous smear that I saw was being attributed to any Christian politician. I haven’t posted links because there were just too many. If you want to go down the rabbit hole search Dominionism politicians.

[catfish1957]

She literally said the other day that she thinks trump “is perfect”.  She is incapable of rational thought or humor on the subject

I don't know....   some of the ridiculous things she says is so funny, it  makes for some good satirical fodder.  She's pretty much the Cartman of TBR.  I know I am entertained.   

Every think you would ever be in a place where a member is basically  calling  Trump the  world advocate of  conservativism, and Cruz is a RINO?
I hope she doesn't leave.  I love it.   

[catfish1957]

I’ve been cruising around the internet learning more about Dominionism.  It seems some of the proof that you are a Dominionist is if you believe that our country was founded on Jude-Christian values.

That also covers about 90-95% of the membership here. 

[PeteS in CA]

...  You think Ted Cruz is a great guy?  BORN IN CANADA. 1.) HE IS A DOMINIONIST. 2.)  ...

1.) So what!You got something against Canuckians? What you failed to mention is that he was 3 YO when his parents moved back to the US (Texas). IOW, his entire elementary and High school education were in Texas.

2.) First, "Dominionist" is an epithet usually used by people - usually Libs and Progs - who hate people of a certain religious viewpoint. Second, Cruz is a Southern Baptist, a denomination whose teachings and practices don't align well with Christian Reconstructionists (what they call themselves). So your accusation the Cruz is a "Dominionist" probably says more about you than Ted Cruz.

[roamer_1]

1.) So what!You got something against Canuckians? What you failed to mention is that he was 3 YO when his parents moved back to the US (Texas). IOW, his entire elementary and High school education were in Texas.

2.) First, "Dominionist" is an epithet usually used by people - usually Libs and Progs - who hate people of a certain religious viewpoint. Second, Cruz is a Southern Baptist, a denomination whose teachings and practices don't align well with Christian Reconstructionists (what they call themselves). So your accusation the Cruz is a "Dominionist" probably says more about you than Ted Cruz.

FACTS.

[PeteS in CA]

I’ve been cruising around the internet learning more about Dominionism.  It seems some of the proof that you are a Dominionist is if you believe that our country was founded on Jude-Christian values.
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"Dominionism" is simply an epithet, usually used by Libs and Progs, that means no more than, "(S)He's a Christian and I disagree with him/her." There is not one Christian Reconstructionist person or organization on the lists you posted (and I think you knew that).

[roamer_1]

"Dominionism" is simply an epithet, usually used by Libs and Progs, that means no more than, "(S)He's a Christian and I disagree with him/her." There is not one Christian Reconstructionist person or organization on the lists you posted (and I think you knew that).

By and large this kerfluffle is over a largely pentecostal variety of Dominionism called the Fivefold Ministry...Largely taken out of context from Cruz's old man selling his kid in large pentecostal settings... speaking their language.

Pentecostalism, from the outside looking in seems kinda kooky on it's own, not to mention layering Fivefold theology on top of it... And the Press had a field day stretching that language and setting well beyond its limits.

Literally much ado about nothing, similar to the ways the Amish are taken as wierdos by those who don't understand them. From within the Pentecostal culture, Fivefold language is far from inflammatory, and really rather bland.. Like any other Christian Restructionist  theology.

Seriously a MEH... Till trotted out in alarmist nonsense like that exampled in this thread.

[GrouchoTex]

Cruz not wanting to place Tariffs on anyone would be pretty consistent with his lower tax ideology, so that wouldn't surprise me.
I don't think this makes him a RINO.
His vote on the PPT deal was determined by the EX-IM bank not being a part of it.
It was snuck into at the last minute.
This was the time Cruz called McConnell out, and why he called him out.

[GrouchoTex]

I see some articles & videos have been removed.  Here is what I remember about the TTP.  Ted Cruz signed it. Later he said, he was lied to and didn't know what he was signing.  Isn't he supposed to READ...what he is signing?  He is an attorney. He claims NOT TO KNOW, WHAT HE SIGNED. THAT IS WHAT HE IS THERE FOR...as senator, for WE THE PEOPLE. HE DIDN'T READ IT?  It was a program for NWO & would destroy America, more. Same with his support of North American UNION.  His wife, Heidi, was C.E.O. of that.  Cruz is just bidding his time.  Nothing to do about helping AMERICANS. SNAKE IN THE GRASS.
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Is Ted Cruz a Dominionist?
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James Holloman
James Hollomon, The USA is headed toward banana republic status if we don't change course.
Updated Jan 23, 2016 · Author has 3.1k answers and 4.4m answer views
Ted Cruz is a member of a strict fundamentalist branch of the Southern Baptist Church with deep roots in Dominionist theology. His father is a noted Dominionist. Here are a sampling of references to read more about his desire to set up a national and eventually world-wide Christian theocratic government.

Ted Cruz, Dominionism and Jesus
The Left Must Accept that Ted Cruz is the Dominionist Messiah
CHILLING Exposé:  Ted Cruz & his Dominionist Roots
Born From The Heart of the Dominionist Christian Right

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I Call B.S.

I do not know what you are talking about.

I work nearly just down the street from the Church Ted Cruz attended when he was in High School,
Clay Road at Highway 6.
It isn't some weird Dominionist church, what ever that is.

[catfish1957]

I Call B.S.

I do not know what you are talking about.

I work nearly just down the street from the Church Ted Cruz attended when he was in High School,
Clay Road at Highway 6.
It isn't some weird Dominionist church, what ever that is.

The Trump candidancy generated all kind of  slime during the '16 primary toward Cruz. And that is now water under the bridge.
OTOH, you have rare types like LA who are  gullible enough to believe it.

[Cyber Liberty]

The Trump candidancy generated all kind of  slime during the '16 primary toward Cruz. And that is now water under the bridge.
OTOH, you have rare types like LA who are  gullible enough to believe it.

She ain't the only one who still buys that drink by the barrel.

[catfish1957]

She ain't the only one who still buys that drink by the barrel.

lol...  Wonder how much longer until she comes out with the "Cruz' dad killed JFK" and "Heidi almost jumped off a bridge" memes?

[GrouchoTex]

lol...  Wonder how much longer until she comes out with the "Cruz' dad killed JFK" and "Heidi almost jumped off a bridge" memes?

Man.......I hope not.

[PeteS in CA]

By and large this kerfluffle is over a largely pentecostal variety of Dominionism called the Fivefold Ministry...Largely taken out of context from Cruz's old man selling his kid in large pentecostal settings... speaking their language.

Pentecostalism, from the outside looking in seems kinda kooky on it's own, not to mention layering Fivefold theology on top of it... And the Press had a field day stretching that language and setting well beyond its limits.

Literally much ado about nothing, similar to the ways the Amish are taken as wierdos by those who don't understand them. From within the Pentecostal culture, Fivefold language is far from inflammatory, and really rather bland.. Like any other Christian Restructionist  theology.

Seriously a MEH... Till trotted out in alarmist nonsense like that exampled in this thread.

By and large, Christian Reconstructionists are not Pentecostal or Charismatic. Christian Reconstructionists are largely very strongly Calvinist, while most Pentecostals/charismatics are Arminian, and those who are more Calvinist-inclined are not strongly so. Pentecostalism goes back to the early 1900s (1903, IIRC); charismatic historical roots are more vague and include roots in a VERY wide variety of denominations, but stretch back at least to the 1960s. Rousas Rushdoony was probably the pioneer of the Christian Reconstructionism movement, coming from the Orthodox Presbyterian denomination, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._J._Rushdoony#Ministry . He seems to have started in the Reconstructionism direction in the mid 1960s. Among the then well know names of teachers in the charismatic movement, Rushdoony's was not one (I'm speaking from experience in saying this).

Rushdoony used (he died in 2001) language that has been common among Christians for centuries, and was not particularly isolated. But even guilt-by-association doesn't work, because some of his (and his movement's) ideas were and are very mainstream, but those mainstream ideas do not include his core idea of what would amount to theocracy. When one talks of Evangelical Christians, using the term broadly, one is talking about people whose beliefs are on the order of 90% in common. So guilt-by-association that ignores fine distinctions and is based on some aspects of the 90% commonality is absurd, ignorant, or dishonest (IMO, Cruz's accusers are one of the latter two).

"Fivefold Ministry" is a reference to Ephesians 4:11. The idea is that "apostle", "evangelist", "prophet", "pastor", and "teacher" are all still valid ministries within the church. Southern Baptists, generally, would dispute two of those five; Christian Reconstructionists (i.e. "Dominionists") probably would as well.

[roamer_1]

By and large, Christian Reconstructionists are not Pentecostal or Charismatic. Christian Reconstructionists are largely very strongly Calvinist [...]

Right. But there is a Pentecostal strain. If you watch the vids in question, they clearly take place in a pentecostal setting. And there is a reason the press constructed this bullshallism around that... It plays far more effectively with tambourines and preachers dressed like Elvis (as it were) than it would, were the congregation members of the staid and stern 'Frozen Chosen'.

[...] while most Pentecostals/charismatics are Arminian [...]

The Calvinist/Arminian divide is incidental to this conversation with the exception of interpretation and application, which is more a Pentecostal v. Evangelical one.

"Fivefold Ministry" is a reference to Ephesians 4:11. The idea is that "apostle", "evangelist", "prophet", "pastor", and "teacher" are all still valid ministries within the church. Southern Baptists, generally, would dispute two of those five; Christian Reconstructionists (i.e. "Dominionists") probably would as well.

Right. As a matter of disclosure, I would probably be considered sorta Arminian anymore, and I would not dispute any of those offices... With serious distinctions from the chunked and formed dogmas on any side.

But, look at how that five-fold ministry translates into the seven-fold ministry, and that in turn used as the basis for the Seven Mountains mandate... The linkage is clear, and by the time you travel that road, you will be very firmly in Pentecostal reconstructionist circles.

And mind you I am not being critical. As a Messianic and a charismatic, I am quite close to our Pentecostal brethren. Knowing their bent, a lot of what would be considered astonishing in their language becomes rather mundane.

[LegalAmerican]

Why would you men do this?  You think a woman, who has years of wisdom under her belt, lived the school of hard knocks, does NOT understand things?  If I told you that, my slime ex-husband talked a bank official into allowing him into my safe deposit box, you would not believe it. I had this box for my European B.C. , which place, does not exist anymore, my title to my car.  I had this box before my marriage to slime ex. His NAME was not on it.  Then when I saw he signed the card, later...BTW I had no money in there, I am not sneaky like that, I asked the teller to make a copy of that sign in card.  SHE DID.  I could have sued the Bank. I didn't. I have the proof that happened.  I had no money or anything else in my small box.  Why would you men, think I was gullible?  I have more story's like this, that actually happened.  I bet you all still believe, NO ONE,  can get into your safe deposit box.  Ever. I am NOT the gullible one.  That you even had to write, that, to try & discredit me, Says a lot.  Then, as now, that is backwards about TRUMP.  Ted Cruz IS SLIME.  I saw it happen.
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #75 on: Today at 12:49:18 PM »

Quote from: catfish1957 on Today at 12:28:56 PM
The Trump candidancy generated all kind of  slime during the '16 primary toward Cruz. And that is now water under the bridge.
OTOH, you have rare types like LA who are  gullible enough to believe it.

She ain't the only one who still buys that drink by the barrel.

[roamer_1]

Why would you men do this? 

Why would you turn this into anything to do with gender?

[catfish1957]

Why would you turn this into anything to do with gender?

Pretty telling isn't it?  Or why she had to infer her life story to make a point. Guess she is accusing us of sexism. 


"Ted Cruz is SLIME". I saw it happen.  ??????

(figure that one out)

[roamer_1]

Pretty telling isn't it?  Or why she had to infer her life story to make a point. Guess she is accusing us of sexism. 


"Ted Cruz is SLIME". I saw it happen.  ??????

(figure that one out)

I know, right?
It feels like a setup to a martyr play...

[Neverdul]

 

[Cyber Liberty]

@LegalAmerican  Please knock off the man-bashing.  Roughly half of the TBR Members are men, and the women don't appreciate it either.  This is not the first ime you did that.

[PeteS in CA]

Why would you men do this?  You think a woman, who has years of wisdom under her belt, lived the school of hard knocks, does NOT understand things?  If I told you that, my slime ex-husband talked a bank official into allowing him into my safe deposit box, you would not believe it. I had this box for my European B.C. , which place, does not exist anymore, my title to my car.  I had this box before my marriage to slime ex. His NAME was not on it.  Then when I saw he signed the card, later...BTW I had no money in there, I am not sneaky like that, I asked the teller to make a copy of that sign in card.  SHE DID.  I could have sued the Bank. I didn't. I have the proof that happened.  I had no money or anything else in my small box.  Why would you men, think I was gullible?  I have more story's like this, that actually happened.  I bet you all still believe, NO ONE,  can get into your safe deposit box.  Ever. I am NOT the gullible one.  That you even had to write, that, to try & discredit me, Says a lot.  Then, as now, that is backwards about TRUMP.  Ted Cruz IS SLIME.  I saw it happen.
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Gender Card Played.       And laughed at.

[aligncare]

Poor character isn’t inclusive to a particular gender. Men have their own ex wife/girlfriend stories, too. Boy, could we start a raging thread over this subject.

[GrouchoTex]

Poor character isn’t inclusive to a particular gender. Men have their own ex wife/girlfriend stories, too. Boy, could we start a raging thread over this subject.

 

[Axeslinger]

Pretty telling isn't it?  Or why she had to infer her life story to make a point. Guess she is accusing us of sexism. 


"Ted Cruz is SLIME". I saw it happen.  ??????

(figure that one out)

It ain’t the first time sweet thang has posted about blaming men.  Probably explains her very curious devotion to trump...because according to her (and yes she posted this the other day), he’s “perfect”.


And I just reread her original post.    I’ve got to take serious exception to the phrase “years of wisdom under her belt”

[Cyber Liberty]

If this turns into a man-bashing/woman-bashing thread...so help me God....

 

[Axeslinger]

If this turns into a man-bashing/woman-bashing thread...so help me God....

 

@Cyber Liberty
You can then Merge it with the Bush thread and what fun we will have!!!!

[Axeslinger]

Poor character isn’t inclusive to a particular gender. Men have their own ex wife/girlfriend stories, too. Boy, could we start a raging thread over this subject.

@aligncare
But I’d win because my first wife was the spawn of Satan...so there’s really no point.

[Cyber Liberty]

And I just reread her original post.    I’ve got to take serious exception to the phrase “years of wisdom under her belt”

My belt takes serious exception to that.  It shrank over the past 6 weeks by a couple inches.  I think it's in league with the pants that are shrinking in my closet.

[LegalAmerican]

@LegalAmerican  Please knock off the man-bashing.  Roughly half of the TBR Members are men, and the women don't appreciate it either.  This is not the first ime you did that.

Where was I man-bashing?  BOTH OF YOU MEN, WERE DOING THAT..TO ME.  I LOVE MEN. I AM A HETERO WOMAN.
 LIST THE BASH?   I need to know, so I can stop doing that.  I don't bash men. I support them.  Catfish is male & so is Cyber, right?  The  Axlesrod is male?  It was two men who called me gullible & Alexrod is a male, ?   who takes exception to my 'wisdom under my belt".    Just stating some facts.  I don't believe in bashing either side.  Then, why were those comments made to me?  I give up. 

Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #75 on: Today at 12:49:18 PM »

Quote from: catfish1957 on Today at 12:28:56 PM
The Trump candidancy generated all kind of  slime during the '16 primary toward Cruz. And that is now water under the bridge.

OTOH, you have rare types like LA who are  gullible enough to believe it.=CATFISH

She ain't the only one who still buys that drink by the barrel.= CYBER

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty
You can then Merge it with the Bush thread and what fun we will have!!!!

That would make it the 54 page "Thread from Hell."

[LegalAmerican]

Poor character isn’t inclusive to a particular gender. Men have their own ex wife/girlfriend stories, too. Boy, could we start a raging thread over this subject.

True. I agree.   

[Axeslinger]

I’m reminded of a joke.

Why was Minnie Mouse kicked out of Disney World?

Because she was f*cking goofy.

[LegalAmerican]

I’m reminded of a joke.

Why was Minnie Mouse kicked out of Disney World?

Because she was f*cking goofy.

Was Minnie a woman?   

[Cyber Liberty]

Was Minnie a woman?   

Is she?