America Held Hostage

[Bigun]

America Held Hostage

What are we doing, America?  We've destroyed a booming economy, turned a record number of jobs into record unemployment numbers, and given up our basic tenets of liberty — all so we won't get sick?   

We're allowing governors to restrict people's movement; prevent citizens from assembling; and order mandatory masks, testing, and vaccines.  These governors now claim the right to track our every move, to surveil every American in order to ensure compliance.  This shutdown is not just a slippery slope to socialism and communism; it's a downhill slalom. 

How did we get here?  Americans aren't cowards who would eagerly surrender liberty for immunity.  But therein lies the genius of the left.  It's not just about you and me, now, is it?

The left has hostages: our aging parents, grandparents, sick relatives.  Either we put down the Constitution and slowly back away or the hostages will die...

Excerpted from: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/america_held_hostage.html

[Absalom]

The pandemic presents a stark choice between material well-being and life itself:
* if we choose the material but forfeit life, only the animals and plants will enjoy Planet Earth.
* if we choose life, we may extinguish freedom and surrender to command and control.
Which is it to be???????????
 

[Smokin Joe]

Let's take a look at that. 5.8% of those who tested positive in NYC have died. (16,599 out of 282,000)

While that is more serious than the flu, we know at least 3700 of those were "presumed COVID-19 deaths" and there may be other cooking in those books. Equally, the denominator is uncertain: we don't know how many low intensity or asymptomatic infections there have been, or how many have recovered.

But taking that 5.8% of the people who tested positive, out of a population of 8,399,000 people, only 0.2% of the population of the city have succumbed. 198 people per 100,000, so far, which puts this disease slightly ahead of the ordinary number one killer, Heart disease, at 171.9/100,000. Granted the Heart disease number is annual, and the year is far from over.

Is that cause for concern? Sure.

Is it the reason to shut down a nation (considering the other states have been less severely affected)?

I guess every one must weigh their personal risks in an economic depression versus that 0.2% chance they may get the disease and die from it.

For states where the risk of contracting and dying from the disease is significantly lower, poverty, hunger, the loss of assets, and the wholesale destruction of rights looms far more threateningly.

[cato potatoe]

For states where the risk of contracting and dying from the disease is significantly lower, poverty, hunger, the loss of assets, and the wholesale destruction of rights looms far more threateningly.

It's not even close.  People have lost their damned minds over this virus.  They have abandoned all common sense.  What is more distressing is they are blind to the economic calamity that is looming.  What sort of panic will that cause?

[Smokin Joe]

It's not even close.  People have lost their damned minds over this virus.  They have abandoned all common sense.  What is more distressing is they are blind to the economic calamity that is looming.  What sort of panic will that cause?

It depends on what the Media can do to blame whom.

Unfortunately the counties immediately surrounding D.C. are heavily Democrat, and could cause a lot of damage before flyover country can breach the Beltway Line..

[Bigun]

It's not even close.  People have lost their damned minds over this virus.  They have abandoned all common sense.  What is more distressing is they are blind to the economic calamity that is looming.  What sort of panic will that cause?