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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #100 on: April 15, 2020, 04:10:04 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on April 15, 2020, 04:04:37 am
I figured it was a brain thing.

Oooh. Burn.
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #101 on: April 15, 2020, 04:25:19 am »
Quote from: Mesaclone on April 15, 2020, 04:09:05 am
And I answered you, quite clearly...perhaps you're having your own "brain thing".

I know you think that.  A clear answer would be

1.  "Acosta is right because..."
2.  "Acosta is wrong because..."
3.  "I'm afraid to answer you truthfully, because my logic is already twisted like a pretzel."

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Its not News at all. I know that doesn't really fit the narrative your after, but there it is.

and yet there it isn't.
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #102 on: April 15, 2020, 04:29:20 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on April 15, 2020, 04:25:19 am
I know you think that.  A clear answer would be

1.  "Acosta is right because..."
2.  "Acosta is wrong because..."
3.  "I'm afraid to answer you truthfully, because my logic is already twisted like a pretzel."

and yet there it isn't.

Those aren't clearer answers. They are simply the answers YOU want.
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #103 on: April 15, 2020, 04:45:09 am »
Quote from: Mesaclone on April 15, 2020, 04:29:20 am
Those aren't clearer answers. They are simply the answers YOU want.

I'll assume 3 then.
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #104 on: April 15, 2020, 04:54:22 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on April 15, 2020, 04:45:09 am
I'll assume 3 then.

You know what happens when you assume.
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #105 on: April 15, 2020, 05:05:16 am »
Quote from: Mesaclone on April 15, 2020, 04:54:22 am
You know what happens when you assume.

Nice.   88devil
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #106 on: April 15, 2020, 05:23:30 am »
Quote from: Mesaclone on April 15, 2020, 04:54:22 am
You know what happens when you assume.
Yes, I make a ASS out of U...and...
I forget the rest :pondering:

I'm kidding.

I remember the whole thing.
You're a good sport for feeding me more material to make fun of, and you got a few good punches in too.  What say we call it a draw and move on?    :bighug:
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #107 on: April 15, 2020, 05:42:25 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on April 15, 2020, 05:23:30 am
Yes, I make a ASS out of U...and...
I forget the rest :pondering:

I'm kidding.

I remember the whole thing.
You're a good sport for feeding me more material to make fun of, and you got a few good punches in too.  What say we call it a draw and move on?    :bighug:

Fine with me...just a riposte and parry.
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #108 on: April 15, 2020, 01:49:03 pm »
Why does the world always blow up before 7AM Pacific?  It's hard to keep up in the summer when I'm on Pacific, much easier when I'm on Mountain...

Need more Cofeve.... :coffee!: :coffee!: :coffee!:
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #109 on: April 15, 2020, 01:57:27 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 15, 2020, 01:49:03 pm
Why does the world always blow up before 7AM Pacific?  It's hard to keep up in the summer when I'm on Pacific, much easier when I'm on Mountain...

Need more Cofeve.... :coffee!: :coffee!: :coffee!:

I thought you were on AAT. (Arizona All the Time)
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #110 on: April 15, 2020, 02:00:05 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on April 15, 2020, 01:57:27 pm
I thought you were on AAT. (Arizona All the Time)

I am.  The problem is, you other guys are constantly changing your clocks back and forth...it's hard to stay in step sometimes. 
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #111 on: April 15, 2020, 02:04:45 pm »
Quote from: Absalom on April 14, 2020, 02:56:23 am
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The soulmate of abysmal ignorance is humongous arrogance but
you'll never hear a peep from Trump's Fan Club who are all in forever.
So you are part of the Biden fan club?
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #112 on: April 15, 2020, 02:06:52 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on April 15, 2020, 02:04:45 pm
So you are part of the Biden fan club?

Not a legit question.
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #113 on: April 15, 2020, 03:50:06 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on April 15, 2020, 02:06:52 pm
Not a legit question.

Yes it is...  Many Trumpers accused us of being Hillary supporters because many of us  Cruz supporters were angry after the '16 primary backlash.  Sounds like more of the same rhetoric to me is starting up in earnest.

Trump is awful, but apparently all we got.
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #114 on: April 15, 2020, 03:59:47 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on April 15, 2020, 03:50:06 pm
Yes it is...  Many Trumpers accused us of being Hillary supporters because many of us  Cruz supporters were angry after the '16 primary backlash.  Sounds like more of the same rhetoric to me is starting up in earnest.

Trump is awful, but apparently all we got.

I do not mean to provoke anyone, but I cannot think of another justification for openly trashing Trump at this point.

Anyone who dislikes him has made their opinion VERY clear by this time. Why beat that dead horse right before an election where the only alternative is Biden?

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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #115 on: April 15, 2020, 04:07:51 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on April 15, 2020, 03:59:47 pm
I do not mean to provoke anyone, but I cannot think of another justification for openly trashing Trump at this point.



You don't think accusing dye in the wool conservatives of being a Biden or Hilary, or "alqaeda" supporters, because they don't think DJT walks on water  is a "provocation"? 

I support Trump, but have no problem callng him out on his many many many  shortcomings.  Kooaid isn't to my liking.
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #116 on: April 15, 2020, 04:13:03 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on April 15, 2020, 04:07:51 pm
You don't think accusing dye in the wool conservatives of being a Biden or Hilary, or "alqaeda" supporters, because they don't think DJT walks on water  is a "provocation"? 

I support Trump, but have no problem callng him out on his many many many  shortcomings.  Kooaid isn't to my liking.

There are "dyed in the wool" conservatives right here in this discussion who have said they are considering voting for Biden...or another off the wall 3rd party candidate. As for Kool aid, nobody here that I've read is drinking any such thing. Many of us agree with most of the President's policies and most of us support that he stands up the media in a direct and unappeasing way...as opposed to the traditional Neville Chamberlain style of much of our GOP leadership...yet ALL of us see the man's shortcomings. Fortunately, those shortcoming are heavily outweighed by his strengths.
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #117 on: April 15, 2020, 04:21:45 pm »
Quote from: Mesaclone on April 15, 2020, 04:13:03 pm
There are "dyed in the wool" conservatives right here in this discussion who have said they are considering voting for Biden.

Really?  Can you name one?  I don't believe that......    If they actually said that, I'd really doubt their conservative credentials

 As for Kool aid, nobody here that I've read is drinking any such thing. Many of us agree with most of the President's policies and most of his support that he stands up the media in a direct and unappeasing way...and ALL of us see the man's shortcomings. Fortunately, those shortcoming are heavily outweighed by his strengths.

No really big argument on my behalf there, with the excpetion I think his shortcomings outweigh the strengths.  Still he is far better than anything the dims have to offer.  OTOH, his self inflicted gaffes drive me freakin'. crazy.  He's got to stick to teleprompter, and stop with the off the cuff crap.  The stakes are too damn high. 
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #118 on: April 15, 2020, 04:24:17 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on April 15, 2020, 03:50:06 pm
Yes it is...  Many Trumpers accused us of being Hillary supporters because many of us  Cruz supporters were angry after the '16 primary backlash.  Sounds like more of the same rhetoric to me is starting up in earnest.

Trump is awful, but apparently all we got.

Still not a legit question.

He may be all we got, but that's no reason to join the fan club, and no reason for anyone here to accuse anyone else here of being in the "Biden fan club" if he or she has problems with Trump.

And yes, the accusation will continue in earnest until the election, as phony as it may be, because for some loyalty to a man is a greater cause than loyalty to principles, and any questioning of that man will result in the dark, ugly accusation that the non-fan is a leftist.

I expect it to continue, but it's as ugly now as it was in 2016, and should never, ever happen.
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #119 on: April 15, 2020, 04:25:35 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on April 15, 2020, 03:50:06 pm
Yes it is...  Many Trumpers accused us of being Hillary supporters because many of us  Cruz supporters were angry after the '16 primary backlash.  Sounds like more of the same rhetoric to me is starting up in earnest.

Trump is awful, but apparently all we got.
I was a Cruz supporter and still haven't gotten over the "Cruz's dad shot JFK" comment.  I didn't vote for Trump, but WILL this time.  He has his faults and we all can agree he has them.  BUT....he's better than Biden and is supporting the Oil & Gas industry, which I am a part.  I'll vote for Trump and will actually support him financially.
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #120 on: April 15, 2020, 04:27:58 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on April 15, 2020, 03:59:47 pm
I do not mean to provoke anyone, but I cannot think of another justification for openly trashing Trump at this point.

Anyone who dislikes him has made their opinion VERY clear by this time. Why beat that dead horse right before an election where the only alternative is Biden?

Since when does recognizing that the man has flaws "trashing" him?

It makes me wonder why you are afraid to see any viewpoint other than your own?  You say it isn't accomplishing anything, but since when is stating a valid opinion forbidden?  Where is the line drawn?  If we are never to criticize a President, what kind of a forum does this become?

Most of us left TOS behind........ some of us years ago.......... and I don't think anyone legitimately wants this forum to be like that forum.

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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #121 on: April 15, 2020, 04:29:54 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on April 15, 2020, 04:25:35 pm
I was a Cruz supporter and still haven't gotten over the "Cruz's dad shot JFK" comment.  I didn't vote for Trump, but WILL this time.  He has his faults and we all can agree he has them.  BUT....he's better than Biden and is supporting the Oil & Gas industry, which I am a part.  I'll vote for Trump and will actually support him financially.

And continue to accuse others who aren't of being in the Biden fan club?

It isn't an either/or.   It wasn't in 2016, and it isn't now.
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #122 on: April 15, 2020, 04:32:11 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on April 15, 2020, 04:27:58 pm
Since when does recognizing that the man has flaws "trashing" him?

It makes me wonder why you are afraid to see any viewpoint other than your own?  You say it isn't accomplishing anything, but since when is stating a valid opinion forbidden?  Where is the line drawn?  If we are never to criticize a President, what kind of a forum does this become?

Most of us left TOS behind........ some of us years ago.......... and I don't think anyone legitimately wants this forum to be like that forum.
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Knock yerself out, ML. I'm just wondering aloud.
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #123 on: April 15, 2020, 04:34:58 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on April 15, 2020, 04:29:54 pm
And continue to accuse others who aren't of being in the Biden fan club?

It isn't an either/or.   It wasn't in 2016, and it isn't now.
Sweetheart....  So when is a question: "So you are part of the Biden fan club?" an accusation?
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Re: Trump falsely claims that 'when somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is
« Reply #124 on: April 15, 2020, 04:35:07 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on April 15, 2020, 04:21:45 pm


Ask your pal Onceler if he's considered voting for Biden or 3rd party.

As for strengths and weaknesses, I respect your view but just don't share it. Those who feel as I do are not Kool Aid drinkers, we simply weigh the strength/balance sheet differently.
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