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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3450 on: September 26, 2020, 04:30:40 pm »
HUGE! CDC and Fauci’s NIAID Add Non-Pneumonia Deaths to US COVID-19 Totals Unlike Other Countries! — If These Deaths are Removed US Has 86,000 COVID-19 Deaths
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For months doctors and investigative journalists have wondered why state coronavirus death counts include motorcycle accidents, homicides, birth defects, gunshot wounds and thousands of intentional injuries and poisonings to the US Coronavirus death totals.

It’s almost as if the medical elites are doing all they can to pad the coronavirus death counts.

In Singapore the medical experts follow the World Health Organization guidelines and DO NOT INCLUDE non-pneumonia coronavirus fatalities in their death counts.

If the US followed the same system as much of the world the total number of coronavirus deaths in the US would be 86,000 or something you’d see in a bad flu season.

In 2017-2018 the US had an intense flu season. 61,000 Americans died. ...
Gateway Pundit  citing Deccan Herald, which reported the story.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3451 on: September 26, 2020, 06:34:46 pm »
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What???  (If this story holds up....)
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« Reply #3452 on: September 26, 2020, 06:36:16 pm »
What???  (If this story holds up....)
Seems to indicate Fauci doesn't even follow WHO guidelines.  :shrug:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3453 on: September 26, 2020, 06:43:24 pm »
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What???  (If this story holds up....)

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3454 on: September 26, 2020, 06:49:21 pm »
This is from Sept. 1:
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...  There were more than 161,300 death certificates that listed Covid-19 among the possible causes of death as of Aug. 22, according to NCHS. About 6% of the certificates that mention Covid-19 list it as the sole cause on the death certificate. The remaining 94% included other causes alongside Covid-19.

The CDC, however, considers the underlying cause of death as "the condition that began the chain of events that ultimately led to the person's death," and in 92% of all deaths that mention Covid-19, the virus was listed as the underlying cause of death, Bob Anderson, lead mortality statistician at NCHS, said in a statement.

"These data are consistent with CDC guidance that those with underlying medical conditions are at greater risk for severe illness and death from Covid-19," Anderson said.    ...
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In other words, they'll call it a covid death if they want to. So there,  :tongue2:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3455 on: September 26, 2020, 06:51:23 pm »
This is from Sept. 1:link

In other words, they'll call it a covid death if they want to. So there,  :tongue2:

Yah...close one there!  Did a flyby....
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3456 on: September 26, 2020, 07:52:59 pm »
On a personal note my own health has been failing.

My md told me they found 4 cases of corona at Bonneville HS. Two cases of Modelo. Some Budweiser and CoorsLight.

My blood pressure was a little high for a space. My little monitor goes to top end 260. It wouldn't register. Just have an error code.

I think sars 2 is a fatal disease. So does my doc.

But people are dying of of the same ole every day before they have a chance to die of covid.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3457 on: September 26, 2020, 09:20:26 pm »
My md told me they found 4 cases of corona at Bonneville HS. Two cases of Modelo. Some Budweiser and CoorsLight.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3458 on: September 26, 2020, 11:44:13 pm »
09-26-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   25.140 ↑    1.297 ↑
United States   21.496 ↑    1.617 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in TX, CA, FL, IL, & WI.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -68.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,947,088.


Five thousand additional cases suddenly appeared on total from two days ago.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3459 on: September 26, 2020, 11:48:38 pm »
09-27-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   25.237 ↑    1.297 -
United States   21.628 ↑    1.611 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in CA, WI, FL, IL, & TX.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -49.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,943,316.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3460 on: September 26, 2020, 11:53:55 pm »
In the little Texas town of 2,000 around which we do most of our drilling, the virus is spreading like wildfire.  The High School just canceled all athletic events for the next few weeks.  No one hardly wore a mask (tough cowboys you know).  I don't think anyone has died yet, but it's certainly taking a toll.

Chattahoochee County, Georgia (south of Columbus) has the highest infection rate in the State.  A whopping 15.2% of all county residents have tested positive for the virus.  Yet the county has reported only one Covid death.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3461 on: September 27, 2020, 03:56:44 pm »
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CDC specialized test shows Oregon's youngest suspected coronavirus victim didn't have the disease
by Emma Colton, Social Media Manager
 | September 24, 2020 04:04 PM

The youngest suspected coronavirus victim in Oregon tested negative for the disease, according to specialized testing from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“They did blood tests, and the white blood cell count was elevated, so they just said it looked COVID-like, basically,” the victim’s mother, Kimberly Irvin, said of her son's doctors. “From early on, I felt that the COVID diagnosis was incorrect.”

Matthew Irvin died in July at the age of 26 and was listed as the state’s youngest victim of the virus.

After his death, his death certificate listed him as a COVID-19 victim, and state officials said they did not conduct an autopsy because their medical team was understaffed.  ...

The family hired a private pathologist to conduct an autopsy and were advised to send lung tissue samples to the CDC for specialized testing.

The test results came back negative for the coronavirus, leaving the family questioning the state’s methods of tracking the virus.  ...
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3462 on: September 28, 2020, 07:40:43 pm »
09-28-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   25.363 ↑    1.296 ↓
United States   21.773 ↑    1.606 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in CA, WI, TN, FL, & IL.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -38.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,941,161.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3463 on: September 30, 2020, 03:38:21 pm »
09-29-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   25.492 ↑    1.293 ↓
United States   21.971 ↑    1.597 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in TX, CA, WI, IL, & KS.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -28.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,932,256.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3464 on: September 30, 2020, 03:42:28 pm »
09-30-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   25.662 ↑    1.291 ↓
United States   22.054 ↑    1.593 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in TX, FL, CA, WI, & MO.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +3.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,928,679.


US Recoveries-to-Deaths ration surpasses 22.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3465 on: October 01, 2020, 04:59:07 pm »
10-01-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   25.743 ↑    1.290 ↓
United States   22.196 ↑    1.585 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in TX, CA, WI, IL, & FL.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -15.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,916,855.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3466 on: October 02, 2020, 10:02:19 pm »
10-02-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   25.739 ↓    1.291 ↑
United States   22.273 ↑    1.583 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in TX, CA, WI, FL, & NC.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -29.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,925,315.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3467 on: October 02, 2020, 10:06:42 pm »
10-03-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   25.815 ↑    1.293 ↑
United States   22.371 ↑    1.580 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, WI, FL, & IL.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -27.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,934,522.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3468 on: October 04, 2020, 12:57:35 pm »
Lies, Damned Lies and Health Statistics – the Deadly Danger of False Positives

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I never expected to be writing something like this. I am an ordinary person, recently semi-retired from a career in the pharmaceutical industry and biotech, where I spent over 30 years trying to solve problems of disease understanding and seek new treatments for allergic and inflammatory disorders of lung and skin. I’ve always been interested in problem solving, so when anything biological comes along, my attention is drawn to it. Come 2020, came SARS-CoV-2. I’ve written about the pandemic as objectively as I could. The scientific method never leaves a person who trained and worked as a professional scientist. Please do read that piece. My co-authors & I will submit it to the normal rigours of peer review, but that process is slow and many pieces of new science this year have come to attention through pre-print servers and other less conventional outlets.

While paying close attention to data, we all initially focused on the sad matter of deaths. I found it remarkable that, in discussing the COVID-19 related deaths, most people I spoke to had no idea of large numbers. Asked approximately how many people a year die in the UK in the ordinary course of events, each a personal tragedy, They usually didn’t know. I had to inform them it is around 620,000, sometimes less if we had a mild winter, sometimes quite a bit higher if we had a severe ’flu season. I mention this number because we know that around 42,000 people have died with or of COVID-19. While it’s a huge number of people, its ‘only’ 0.06% of the UK population. Its not a coincidence that this is almost the same proportion who have died with or of COVID-19 in each of the heavily infected European countries – for example, Sweden. The annual all-causes mortality of 620,000 amounts to 1,700 per day, lower in summer and higher in winter. That has always been the lot of humans in the temperate zones. So for context, 42,000 is about ~24 days worth of normal mortality. Please know I am not minimising it, just trying to get some perspective on it. Deaths of this magnitude are not uncommon, and can occur in the more severe flu seasons. Flu vaccines help a little, but on only three occasions in the last decade did vaccination reach 50% effectiveness. They’re good, but they’ve never been magic bullets for respiratory viruses. Instead, we have learned to live with such viruses, ranging from numerous common colds all the way to pneumonias which can kill. Medicines and human caring do their best.

So, to this article. Its about the testing we do with something called PCR, an amplification technique, better known to biologists as a research tool used in our labs, when trying to unpick mechanisms of disease. I was frankly astonished to realise they’re sometimes used in population screening for diseases – astonished because it is a very exacting technique, prone to invisible errors and it’s quite a tall order to get reliable information out of it, especially because of the prodigious amounts of amplification involved in attempting to pick up a strand of viral genetic code. The test cannot distinguish between a living virus and a short strand of RNA from a virus which broke into pieces weeks or months ago...

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3469 on: October 04, 2020, 11:31:21 pm »
10-04-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   26.243 ↑    1.278 ↓
United States   22.487 ↑    1.578 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in CA, MO, WI, FL, & IL.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -36.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,934,560.


Global Recoveries-to-Deaths ration surpasses 26.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3470 on: October 04, 2020, 11:35:29 pm »
10-05-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   26.371 ↑    1.276 ↓
United States   22.595 ↑    1.575 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, FL, WI, & TN.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -25.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,941,119.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3472 on: October 05, 2020, 09:27:12 am »
Are Face Masks Effective? The Evidence.
Updated: September 28, 2020; Published: July 30, 2020
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An overview of the current evidence regarding the effectiveness of face masks.
1. Studies on the effectiveness of face masks

So far, most studies found little to no evidence for the effectiveness of cloth face masks in the general population, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control.

    A May 2020 meta-study on pandemic influenza published by the US CDC found that face masks had no effect, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control. (Source)
    A July 2020 review by the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medince found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of cloth masks against virus infection or transmission. (Source)
    A Covid-19 cross-country study by the University of East Anglia found that a mask requirement was of no benefit and could even increase the risk of infection. (Source)
    An April 2020 review by two US professors in respiratory and infectious disease from the University of Illinois concluded that face masks have no effect in everyday life, neither as self-protection nor to protect third parties (so-called source control). (Source)
    An article in the New England Journal of Medicine from May 2020 came to the conclusion that cloth face masks offer little to no protection in everyday life. (Source)
    An April 2020 Cochrane review (preprint) found that face masks didn’t reduce influenza-like illness (ILI) cases, neither in the general population nor in health care workers. (Source)
    An April 2020 review by the Norwich School of Medicine (preprint) found that “the evidence is not sufficiently strong to support widespread use of facemasks”, but supports the use of masks by “particularly vulnerable individuals when in transient higher risk situations.” (Source)
    A July 2020 study by Japanese researchers found that cloth masks “offer zero protection against coronavirus” due to their large pore size and generally poor fit. (Source)
    A 2015 study in the British Medical Journal BMJ Open found that cloth masks were penetrated by 97% of particles and may increase infection risk by retaining moisture or repeated use. (Source)
    An August 2020 review by a German professor in virology, epidemiology and hygiene found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of cloth face masks and the improper daily use of masks by the public may in fact lead to numerous additional infections. (Source)
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3473 on: October 05, 2020, 09:29:48 am »
@Bigun

Thank you for posting that.

@sneakypete

You're welcome!

I've been trying to tell folks that for months!
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3474 on: October 05, 2020, 09:50:28 am »
@sneakypete

You're welcome!

I've been trying to tell folks that for months!

I saw earlier articles explaining what the "90% false positive" means, this explained it better, in down-to-Earth language.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3475 on: October 05, 2020, 10:15:46 am »
I saw earlier articles explaining what the "90% false positive" means, this explained it better, in down-to-Earth language.

 :yowsa: That it does!  Better than I ever could in fact.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3476 on: October 06, 2020, 10:47:51 am »
New WHO estimate puts coronavirus death rate at only 0.13%
U.N. body's figure in March was 26 times higher
 By Art Moore
Published October 5, 2020 at 7:10pm
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Lost in the reporting of the World Health Organization's new estimate that about 760 million people – more than 20 times the confirmed cases – have been infected by the coronavirus worldwide is the impact on the estimated survival rate.

If, indeed, 760 million have been infected at some point during the outbreak and the number of confirmed deaths is about 1 million, the infection fatality rate is only 0.13%.

That's a little more than one-tenth of 1%, which the WHO says is the rate for the seasonal flu.

The WHO's estimate in March of a death rate of 3.4% sparked panic worldwide, fueling the catastrophic lockdowns. ...
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3477 on: October 06, 2020, 10:21:33 pm »
10-06-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   26.410 ↑    1.277 ↑
United States   22.764 ↑    1.569 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in TX, CA, TN, NC, & IL.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -12.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,952,131.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3478 on: October 06, 2020, 10:26:08 pm »
10-07-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   26.541 ↑    1.276 ↓
United States   22.869 ↑    1.565 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in TX, MO, CA, FL, & WI.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -38.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,946,572.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3479 on: October 10, 2020, 05:19:39 pm »
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« Reply #3480 on: October 12, 2020, 04:20:54 pm »
I just had a chat with a neighbor who owns a funeral home. He said not a single mortician - anywhere - has gotten Covid from handling the body of someone who allegedly died from it. He said once the deceased has been put in the cooler and body temp drops, the virus dies. 

He also said he has a mortician friend in Pa. who buried a young man killed in a motorcycle accident and the death certificate said Covid-19. The family is raising cain, because the fellow had a double indemnity accidental death provision in his life insurance policy.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3481 on: October 12, 2020, 08:11:59 pm »
10-08-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   26.626 ↑    1.278 ↑
United States   22.953 ↑    1.564 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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« Reply #3482 on: October 12, 2020, 08:14:26 pm »
10-09-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   26.711 ↑    1.280 ↑
United States   23.037 ↑    1.563 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -27.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3483 on: October 12, 2020, 08:17:58 pm »
10-10-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   26.794 ↑    1.281 ↓
United States   23.120 ↑    1.562 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -18.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3484 on: October 12, 2020, 08:22:02 pm »
10-11-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   26.877 ↑    1.283 ↑
United States   23.202 ↑    1.561 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in TX, CA, IL, WI, & MO.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -2.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,978,239
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« Reply #3485 on: October 12, 2020, 08:25:09 pm »
10-12-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   26.992 ↑    1.283 -
United States   23.342 ↑    1.558 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in TX, IL, CA, WI, & TN.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -11.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,976,336.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3486 on: October 12, 2020, 09:26:46 pm »
I just had a chat with a neighbor who owns a funeral home. He said not a single mortician - anywhere - has gotten Covid from handling the body of someone who allegedly died from it. He said once the deceased has been put in the cooler and body temp drops, the virus dies. 

He also said he has a mortician friend in Pa. who buried a young man killed in a motorcycle accident and the death certificate said Covid-19. The family is raising cain, because the fellow had a double indemnity accidental death provision in his life insurance policy.

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I hadn't even thought about it,but it looks like Insurance Companies might be loving the HELL out of this virus scare.
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« Reply #3487 on: October 12, 2020, 09:58:15 pm »
It hadn't occurred to me, either. Of course insurance companies want no one's death ruled accidental. Brilliant!
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« Reply #3488 on: October 13, 2020, 07:55:43 pm »
45 people tested positive at a senior living facility not far from where I live. None showed any symptoms.
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« Reply #3489 on: October 13, 2020, 08:02:12 pm »
With flu season just around the corner, you can bet that the positive COVID cases and deaths will rise.

I'm going to take the same precautions -- mask, hand sanitizer, and avoid crowds as much as possible -- other than wearing a mask, same precautions I take every flu season.


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« Reply #3490 on: October 13, 2020, 11:42:01 pm »
10-13-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   27.107 ↑    1.282 ↓
United States   23.563 ↑    1.550 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in TX, CA, TN, IL, & WI.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  -32.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,957,274.

Global Recoveries-to-Deaths ratio climbs above 27.
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« Reply #3491 on: October 13, 2020, 11:48:25 pm »
10-14-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   27.215 ↑    1.282 -
United States   23.663 ↑    1.548 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Largest case rises occurred in TX, CA, WI, IL, & FL.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +2.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,958,846.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3492 on: October 15, 2020, 05:23:50 pm »
Massive WHO Study Shows Remdesivir Doesn't Lower COVID-19 Mortality

Another speedbump has emerged in the drive to produce reliable COVID-19 therapeutics as a highly anticipated WHO drug trial called Solidarity found that Gilead's COVID-19 treatment, remdesivir, had no substantial effect on a COVID-19 patient's chances of survival. It also found that three other therapeutics were similarly ineffective.

The FT called the data a "significant blow" to efforts to find a drug that could help save late-stage COVID-19 patients. What's more, none of the drugs "substantially affected mortality" or reduce the need to ventilate patients.

Other drugs examined in the trial included hydroxychloroquine, lopnavir and interferon regimes. All of them had "little effect" on hospitalized patients.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/massive-who-study-shows-remdesivir-doesnt-lower-covid-19-mortality#comment_stream

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3493 on: October 15, 2020, 05:43:31 pm »
"Mortality" isn't the goal.  Sickness and permanent damage is.
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« Reply #3494 on: October 15, 2020, 06:04:40 pm »
Massive WHO Study Shows Remdesivir Doesn't Lower COVID-19 Mortality

Another speedbump has emerged in the drive to produce reliable COVID-19 therapeutics as a highly anticipated WHO drug trial called Solidarity found that Gilead's COVID-19 treatment, remdesivir, had no substantial effect on a COVID-19 patient's chances of survival. It also found that three other therapeutics were similarly ineffective.

The FT called the data a "significant blow" to efforts to find a drug that could help save late-stage COVID-19 patients. What's more, none of the drugs "substantially affected mortality" or reduce the need to ventilate patients.

Other drugs examined in the trial included hydroxychloroquine, lopnavir and interferon regimes. All of them had "little effect" on hospitalized patients.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/massive-who-study-shows-remdesivir-doesnt-lower-covid-19-mortality#comment_stream

To the degree people with moderate-severe symptoms were studied the wrong people were subjects. Whether remdesivir or HCQ or any other antiviral, the medication should be given early in the infection process, not after the virus has gotten hold. Testing an antiviral on a person with moderate-severe symptoms is like closing the chicken coop door after a skulk of foxes is inside chowing down.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3495 on: October 15, 2020, 08:29:29 pm »
"Mortality" isn't the goal.  Sickness and permanent damage is.

Agenda 21. Logan's run. Impllant yourself into a machine to escape the human condition as a machine. Until you get an update.

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They say it killed the virus. Hmmmm....they said I would always test + for the C.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3496 on: October 15, 2020, 08:41:26 pm »
Agenda 21. Logan's run. Impllant yourself into a machine to escape the human condition as a machine. Until you get an update.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3497 on: October 16, 2020, 04:02:37 am »
Massive WHO Study Shows Remdesivir Doesn't Lower COVID-19 Mortality

Another speedbump has emerged in the drive to produce reliable COVID-19 therapeutics as a highly anticipated WHO drug trial called Solidarity found that Gilead's COVID-19 treatment, remdesivir, had no substantial effect on a COVID-19 patient's chances of survival. It also found that three other therapeutics were similarly ineffective.

The FT called the data a "significant blow" to efforts to find a drug that could help save late-stage COVID-19 patients. What's more, none of the drugs "substantially affected mortality" or reduce the need to ventilate patients.

Other drugs examined in the trial included hydroxychloroquine, lopnavir and interferon regimes. All of them had "little effect" on hospitalized patients.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/massive-who-study-shows-remdesivir-doesnt-lower-covid-19-mortality#comment_stream
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"On hospitalized patients"

That phrase is being used to damn a few early onset therapies aimed toward keeping viral replication down and the patient out of the hospital. By the time a patient is hospitalized, the damage has been done,the virus has replicated to the degree that the Type 1 pneumocytes have suffered significant damage. These are the cells that cover 95% of the alveoli, and perform gas exchange with the blood, and are also the cells targeted by the SARS CoV-2 virus.

The purpose of hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin/Zinc is for the hydroxychloroquine to act as an ionophore to admit the zinc to the Type 1 pneumocytes where the zinc interferes with viral replication, the Azithromycin adds to inhibiting the virus, reducing the cytokine reaction, and warding off opportunistic bacterial infection. At first presentation of symptoms this would stop the virus from causing damage done while replicating, leaving incomplete viral strands for the body to develop antibodies to. The patient would not degrade enough to need hosptialization.

Remdesevir, while administered in a clinical setting has a similar goal.

Later in the disease's progress, significant Type 1 pneumocytes have been damaged, and the preventative opportunities for the regimens has been lost. Locking the barn door after the horses are gone is of little effect in preventing equine escapes, so in this application, this should be no surprise, but should not affect the use of these regimens in early onset patients, where they can do some good.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3498 on: October 16, 2020, 09:33:47 am »
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"On hospitalized patients"

That phrase is being used to damn a few early onset therapies aimed toward keeping viral replication down and the patient out of the hospital. By the time a patient is hospitalized, the damage has been done,the virus has replicated to the degree that the Type 1 pneumocytes have suffered significant damage. These are the cells that cover 95% of the alveoli, and perform gas exchange with the blood, and are also the cells targeted by the SARS CoV-2 virus.

The purpose of hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin/Zinc is for the hydroxychloroquine to act as an ionophore to admit the zinc to the Type 1 pneumocytes where the zinc interferes with viral replication, the Azithromycin adds to inhibiting the virus, reducing the cytokine reaction, and warding off opportunistic bacterial infection. At first presentation of symptoms this would stop the virus from causing damage done while replicating, leaving incomplete viral strands for the body to develop antibodies to. The patient would not degrade enough to need hosptialization.

Remdesevir, while administered in a clinical setting has a similar goal.

Later in the disease's progress, significant Type 1 pneumocytes have been damaged, and the preventative opportunities for the regimens has been lost. Locking the barn door after the horses are gone is of little effect in preventing equine escapes, so in this application, this should be no surprise, but should not affect the use of these regimens in early onset patients, where they can do some good.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3499 on: October 16, 2020, 09:51:30 am »
I kind of like my chicken coop word picture, but self-back-patting aside, trying that wrong timing "studies" tactic wasn't done with the several antibody-based treatments like Regeneron's. Those therapies' testing have included tests on hospitalized patients, but there are also tests that focus on patients early in the infection process. IOW, the test regimes have been carefully designed (and segregated!) to learn when best to use the antibody treatments.

BTW, one significant difference between convalescent plasma treatment and the several monoclonal antibody treatments (any drug whose technical name is "______mab" is monoclonal antibodies, e.g. the currently much advertised Keytruda, Pembrolizumab) is that the concentration of antibodies in convalescent plasma treatment varies with the donor pool, while the concentration of antibodies in a monoclonal antibody treatment is designed/controlled by the drug company.
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