Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2

[musiclady]

I have to ask you, @musiclady  - what is going on with DeWine's sign language interpreter? What a performance. 

She's a hoot, isn't she?? 

She's become one of the most popular people in the state!

[Cyber Liberty]

WHitler went on to say this:

Unbelievable.

Princess Leia, to her antagonizer in the first movie, "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip though your fingers."  It's like that.

[musiclady]

WHitler went on to say this:

Unbelievable.

She's a stark raving mad tyrant who will use every opportunity to clamp down further on the 1st amendment.

I hate Michigan for much more than football.

[mountaineer]

LOL!  Remember the Sign Language translator for O'Bastard in South Africa?   

That's what Ohio Gov. DeWine's interpreter looks like - plus, she looks exactly like him. She did a gesture yesterday I could have sworn meant, "Get thee behind me, Satan," though I could be mistaken.

[sneakypete]

New York still on lockdown through... May 15. Yep.

What's another month??! 

No, I'm not OK.

@jmyrlefuller

I'm fine with them building a wall around it to prevent any of them from moving to retire down south.

[mountaineer]

Fine, lock down NYC. Lock down Philadelphia. Lock down Detroit. Lock down all of the big cities where things are bad.

 Just let the rest of the states' citizens get on with their lives.

[Hoodat]

‘We Will Not Comply’ — Virginia Protesters Demand State Reopens

Justin Caruso   |   April 16, 2020 3:30 PM ET


Protesters gathered Thursday in front of the Virginia State Capitol in Richmond demanding that the state be reopened.

Virginians protesting stay-at-home orders due to coronavirus are following the lead of other protesters around the country. This week, protests occurred outside state capitols in Michigan, Kentucky, and North Carolina.

In North Carolina Tuesday, protesters were threatened and arrested by police, while in Michigan, there were protests against Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s lockdown orders Wednesday.

Local news outlet WFXR reports that three groups, End The Lockdown VA, Virginians Against Excessive Quarantine, and ReOpen Virginia, were involved in the “Reopen Virginia” demonstration.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/16/photos-reopen-virginia-protesters-richmond-not-comply/

[Smokin Joe]

Governor Gretchen Whitmer: Michigan Protesters ‘Endangering People’s Lives’

KYLE OLSEN   |   15 APRIL 2020

Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer lashed out at the freedom protesters who surrounded the capitol on Wednesday, telling reporters they were “endangering people’s lives.”

Breitbart News reported live from the scene, which featured hundreds of people on the capitol lawn and thousands more in their cars, honking horns, blasting patriotic music, and waving American flags.

Whitmer, whom Joe Biden has said is on his short list for the vice presidential nomination, denounced the protesters, who were calling on her to rescind the onerous restrictions she had placed on the state’s citizens and let them go back to work.

“We know that this demonstration is going to come at a cost to people’s health,” Whitmer told reporters.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/15/governor-gretchen-whitmer-michigan-protesters-endangering-peoples-lives/


Whitler doubles down on fascism.

How about that? In a tremendous gaffe, a Democrat accidentally called those who disagreed with her "people".

Mark your calendar.

The folks most at risk were the protesters themselves.

[txradioguy]

Fine, lock down NYC. Lock down Philadelphia. Lock down Detroit. Lock down all of the big cities where things are bad.

 Just let the rest of the states' citizens get on with their lives.

LA and NY are talking about no large gatherings or sporting events until 2021

[Gemmarose]

Fine, lock down NYC. Lock down Philadelphia. Lock down Detroit. Lock down all of the big cities where things are bad.

 Just let the rest of the states' citizens get on with their lives.

That would be nice because as much as I love my family I want to see others I want to go to the office each day and deal with the traffic getting there.
I also am really missing my morning coffee from Starbucks and yes even the annoying coworkers who are not really working...

[Smokin Joe]

I was watching the sign interpreter during a NY news conference the other day.  After the oral speaker stepped away from the podium, another stepped forward to deliver the same message in Spanish.  But the sign interpreter just stood there and did nothing.  Clearly, this interpreter did not know how to sign in Spanish.  New York should have had a Spanish sign interpreter to fill in.  It's not fair.

(And here I thought that signing was all the same language. Hu gnu?)

[Cyber Liberty]

LA and NY are talking about no large gatherings or sporting events until 2021

And that is their prerogative.  Let Federalism reign!

[Smokin Joe]

@jmyrlefuller

I'm fine with them building a wall around it to prevent any of them from moving to retire down south.

Paging Mr. Plishkin, Mr. Plishkin, pick up the white courtesy phone...

[Cyber Liberty]

That would be nice because as much as I love my family I want to see others I want to go to the office each day and deal with the traffic getting there.
I also am really missing my morning coffee from Starbucks and yes even the annoying coworkers who are not really working...

That was me, during my final year at my old employer before I retired.  My skills became obsolete when they started moving my tasks to a R&D lab in China.  I spent a lot of time just reading shit on the web, as my tasks became fewer and fewer, until they eventually laid me off with a fat severance check.

[Gemmarose]

That was me, during my final year at my old employer before I retired.  My skills became obsolete when they started moving my tasks to a R&D lab in China.  I spent a lot of time just reading shit on the web, as my tasks became fewer and fewer, until they eventually laid me off with a fat severance check.

Such a hard life 

[Hoodat]

That was me, during my final year at my old employer before I retired.  My skills became obsolete when they started moving my tasks to a R&D lab in China.  I spent a lot of time just reading shit on the web, as my tasks became fewer and fewer, until they eventually laid me off with a fat severance check.

Do you want an automation job?

[Gemmarose]

Off topic but what is a Cat Mod?

[sneakypete]

Paging Mr. Plishkin, Mr. Plishkin, pick up the white courtesy phone...

@Smokin Joe

True confession time.I now have several distant cousins living here who managed to escape from NYC,and  they are never returning.  One or more of their grandparents moved there during or after WW-2 for the jobs or opportunities,and the first one decided to come visit distant relatives on his high school graduation trip. He has never been back home since arriving here. He called his parents and told them to mail his tools and clothing to him because he wasn't coming back. Since then,several of his cousins have followed in his footprints,and none of them will go back. Not even for a relatives funeral on a short trip.

I once asked the original cousin what about visiting his mother and father,and he told me "They know where I live,and if they want to see me they are welcome to come visit."

Since he has been here over 30 years now without ever once going back,it seems he is serious about this.

[Gemmarose]

And that is their prerogative.  Let Federalism reign!
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Yes I just hope they know what they are doing at the end of all of this.

[mountaineer]

Off topic but what is a Cat Mod?

Category moderator.

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

True confession time.I now have several distant cousins living here who managed to escape from NYC,and  they are never returning.  One or more of their grandparents moved there during or after WW-2 for the jobs or opportunities,and the first one decided to come visit distant relatives on his high school graduation trip. He has never been back home since arriving here. He called his parents and told them to mail his tools and clothing to him because he wasn't coming back. Since then,several of his cousins have followed in his footprints,and none of them will go back. Not even for a relatives funeral on a short trip.

I once asked the original cousin what about visiting his mother and father,and he told me "They know where I live,and if they want to see me they are welcome to come visit."

Since he has been here over 30 years now without ever once going back,it seems he is serious about this.

Yeah, 30 years is an indicator...

I try to get back East to see my kin every few years, but somehow those intervals get longer than I want them to.
I love the  people, even the place I grew up (really little changed in practice), but the rules there are too much.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Wisconsin extends stay-at-home order through May 26, closes schools for rest of academic year
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/493177-wisconsin-extends-stay-at-home-through-may-26-closes

Wisconsin on Thursday extended its coronavirus stay-at-home order to be in effect until May 26 and closed its schools for the rest of the academic year.

Gov. Tony Evers (D) had previously indicated an extension to the order, originally effective through April 24, may be necessary as states and local governments across the country have dug in on their efforts to fight the coronavirus.

Evers is allowing some adjustments to the original order, including opening golf courses.

But conservatives have been pressuring Evers and other governors to reopen the government and end the stay-at-home order to allow the economy to function. Some have planned protests at the state Capitol on the original end date, a week from Friday.

more at link

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Alex Moe @AlexNBCNews
52 Senate Republicans have been asked by President Trump to serve on the Opening Up America Again Congressional Group. The lone GOP Senator NOT invited... @MittRomney
2:56 PM · Apr 16, 2020

[Smokin Joe]

Alex Moe @AlexNBCNews
52 Senate Republicans have been asked by President Trump to serve on the Opening Up America Again Congressional Group. The lone GOP Senator NOT invited... @MittRomney
2:56 PM · Apr 16, 2020

I think that was the right choice.

[Cyber Liberty]

Off topic but what is a Cat Mod?

[Smokin Joe]

I was thinking a bulldozer with chromed pipes, custom idler wheels, fancy tracks...

[Cyber Liberty]

Alex Moe @AlexNBCNews
52 Senate Republicans have been asked by President Trump to serve on the Opening Up America Again Congressional Group. The lone GOP Senator NOT invited... @MittRomney
2:56 PM · Apr 16, 2020

[AllThatJazzZ]

May I jump in and ask if any Briefers have been stricken with COVID-19?

[Cyber Liberty]

May I jump in and ask if any Briefers have been stricken with COVID-19?

A question so good I put it in big font.

[Hoodat]

May I jump in and ask if any Briefers have been stricken with COVID-19?

I might have had COVID-18½

[Smokin Joe]

May I jump in and ask if any Briefers have been stricken with COVID-19?

Not to my knowledge. I did have a few days I felt poorly, coughed up a bunch of junk and had a slight fever, and I got over it, but that was weeks ago. I took some erythromycin (500 mg/ day--which is a macrolide antibiotic, like Azithromycin) for a few days. That was back in February.

[Hoodat]

Off topic but what is a Cat Mod?

I think it's supposed to be 'Mod cat'.

[Gefn]

I think it's supposed to be 'Mod cat'.

Oh I love it! 

[Gemmarose]

I think it's supposed to be 'Mod cat'.

That is adorable.

[Hoodat]

04-16-2020 | 21:08 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	3.838 ↑	3.444 ↓
United States	1.661 ↓	11.786 ↓
China	23.307 ↑	1.057 ↓

US 14-day Recovery Deficit - 146,146
Recovery Rate after 14 days - 24.1 %  ↓
Recovery Rate after 21 days - 75.7 %  ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Global (excluding US & China) recovery rate after 14 days - 60.0 %
Global (excluding US & China) recovery rate after 21 days - 116.2 %

(Last figure above 100% shows that people diagnosed within last 21 days (i.e. not counted in denominator) have already recovered (and are included in the numerator).  In other words, the rest of the world is showing more total recoveries today than they had total cases 21 days ago.

[AllThatJazzZ]

Not to my knowledge. I did have a few days I felt poorly, coughed up a bunch of junk and had a slight fever, and I got over it, but that was weeks ago. I took some erythromycin (500 mg/ day--which is a macrolide antibiotic, like Azithromycin) for a few days. That was back in February.

Glad you're better. Wonder if you had a mild version? In any event, if it comes back, be prepared.

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[Formerly Once-Ler]

https://twitter.com/SenatorLoeffler/status/1250836976237977601

Senator Kelly Loeffler @SenatorLoeffler
Thank you, @realDonaldTrump for appointing me to your task force on re-opening America safely in the wake of #COVID19.

With 22 million Americans filing for unemployment, it’s clear we must start working to revive our economy and get the American people back to work safely.
12:22 PM · Apr 16, 2020

Good luck with your next stock trades Sen. Loeffler

[Cyber Liberty]

https://twitter.com/SenatorLoeffler/status/1250836976237977601

Senator Kelly Loeffler @SenatorLoeffler
Thank you, @realDonaldTrump for appointing me to your task force on re-opening America safely in the wake of #COVID19.

With 22 million Americans filing for unemployment, it’s clear we must start working to revive our economy and get the American people back to work safely.
12:22 PM · Apr 16, 2020

Good luck with your next stock trades Sen. Loeffler

I think with the Blunt fiasco so close in the rear-view mirror, she's sensitive to the phrase "appearance of impropriety."

[Hoodat]

Good luck with your next stock trades Sen. Loeffler

Loeffler could fix it all by taking the earnings and donating them to a charitable endeavor, thanking her (unseen) investors for being savvy.

[truth_seeker]

The best plan is to reach Speaker of the House, then become a lobbyist.

Paul Ryan, R-Washington DC.

Set for life

Kind of a Mitt Romney kind of "Republican"

[Cyber Liberty]

The best plan is to reach Speaker of the House, then become a lobbyist.

Paul Ryan, R-Washington DC.

Set for life

Kind of a Mitt Romney kind of "Republican"

"Kind of" is right!  Ryan was depicted pushing Grandma off a cliff in a wheelchair, and yet he crawls back to the bastards begging for more punishment.  The very definition of a "cuckold."  Not just worthless but weak.

[Smokin Joe]

Okay, time for something new....

For advanced cases in which symptoms of pulmonary edema are present.

https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=230110

Doctors Suspect Mystery COVID-19 Lung Problems, Plea for New Approach

By Peter Schelden on 04/09/2020 2:00 PM

Source: MedicineNet Health News

Some doctors are questioning the way ventilators are being used for people with serious cases of COVID-19. Why? More data shows a high death rate for patients treated under current ventilator practices.

At the same time, these doctors are saying their patients behave more like they have high altitude sickness than a viral infection. They talk about two different types of COVID-19 patients with differing severe lung problems.

While some patients respond to treatment as expected, doctors also describe patients whose lungs seem relatively fine, but who still can't get enough oxygen into their blood. These patients may make up the majority with severe infections.

>snip<

High altitude sickness often improves with taking breaks when needed, staying hydrated, and eating a proper diet. He also says that two drugs can be taken to help prevent the condition, but also warns of their serious side effects:

    DIAMOX (acetazolamide): DIAMOX (acetazolamide) allows a person to breathe faster and so metabolize more oxygen, thereby minimizing the symptoms caused by poor oxygenation.
    Dexamethasone (a steroid): It decreases brain and other swelling reversing the effects of acute mountain sickness (AMS). However steroids have been shown to be unhelpful in treating ARDS, and may worsen symptoms instead.

Dr. Shiel advises that these medications only be taken at the recommendation of a doctor. A study published March 30 specifically warns against treating COVID-19 patients with steroids, as the WHO has reported conflicting evidence with respect to their use in treating viral infections.

This came to my attention through a friend who linked a YouTube here.

The rest is from a web search.

More here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7096066/

Acetazolamide, Nifedipine and Phosphodiesterase Inhibitors: Rationale for Their Utilization as Adjunctive Countermeasures in the Treatment of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

This study notes the similarities to High Altitude Pulmonary Edema, and suggests treatment of advanced cases with a similar regimen for the HAPE may be appropriate.

This review describes COVID-19 in parallel to HAPE. Deranged respiratory parameters that are present in both conditions are highlighted. The utilization of medications found to be effective in HAPE for the treatment of COVID-19 is proposed. Given the medical emergency of a growing contagion and the thousands of lives at stake, expedient attempts to improve survival are needed. Acetazolamide, Nifedipine and Phosphodiesterase inhibitors may present an opportunity for countermeasure development.

[corbe]

   Damn he's really that BALD, not that that's a bad thing, mind ya.

[Smokin Joe]

Glad you're better. Wonder if you had a mild version? In any event, if it comes back, be prepared.

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I have wondered the same thing, but feeling fine, I'm not going in for testing, someone else might need a kit that would only satisfy my curiosity and really serve no other purpose.

[corbe]

   

             They are collecting your DNA!

[Hoodat]

   Damn he's really that BALD, not that that's a bad thing, mind ya.

RUSH - I Think I'm Going Bald

[Smokin Joe]

   

             They are collecting your DNA!

No biggie, just let the dog lick it...

[sneakypete]

Off topic but what is a Cat Mod?

@Gemmarose

Same/same as a Dog Mod.

Pigeon Mods are a little different. They are kinda flighty,and leave a mess everywhere they go.

Hope this clears that up for ya!

[sneakypete]

A question so good I put it in big font.

@Cyber Liberty

I got struck several times by various coeds when attending college. Does that count?

[Fishrrman]

tx wrote:
"LA and NY are talking about no large gatherings or sporting events until 2021"

This is plausible. Probably a ban on "large gatherings" until a proven vaccine becomes available. Certainly not before infection levels have fallen to a point where new infections are demonstrated to be negligible over a fixed period of time. We are far from that point as of yet, certainly wherever large populations exist.

I wonder how many people are going to be willing to gather with large numbers of others, at least for a while, even after the epidemic fades...?