World Coronavirus News II with Updates

[XenaLee]

We'll see. There are tons of businesses that are likely rethinking their Chinese investments right now and actively looking for alternatives.

Oh, gee.   That would be nice.   Some common sense for a refreshing change. 

[TomSea]

Amazon to hire 100,000 warehouse and delivery.... give raises

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/16/amazon-to-hire-100000-warehouse-and-delivery-workers.html

Astonishing in this climate.

[Cyber Liberty]

Amazon to hire 100,000 warehouse and delivery.... give raises

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/16/amazon-to-hire-100000-warehouse-and-delivery-workers.html

Astonishing in this climate.

I'm pleased, and not surprised.  Amazon is in the business of home delivery, with their own network in the larger cities that can deliver groceries same day.  This is a golden opportunity for Amazon, and Walmart, too.  They do same-day delivery in the large cities, and curb-side pickup in the small markets.

[Hoodat]

This lockdown is actually working against us getting control of the virus.  The way to stop this virus is to develop a herd immunity.  Our most vulnerable --- our seniors and all with underlying medical conditions -- should continue to self-quarantine until the herd immunity takes hold..

But businesses and schools should reopen ... and if you and your family are well,  get back to work and get back to school.  Employers/schools can provide hand sanitizers, medical grade gloves, cans of Lysol.  Monitor your health ... but resume life.

Oh, and turn off ALL news shows.

100% in agreement.

[Smokin Joe]

@Once-Ler

Airline pilots are being laid off - too many planes are sitting idle at various Airline's headquarters. The Airlines can't make a profit now. Thousands of airline families will have no money coming in.

That's a perishable skill.

Pilots need to maintain 'currency' or they have to regain it in order to fly.

[Smokin Joe]

Ireland and UK added to the Europe ban:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-school-shutdown-sport-events-cancelled-latest-update-news

And this is interesting, though it's from Modern Ghana and this seems like an offbeat website... still, we know China steals intellectual property....
The author probably got this info in turn somewhere, wow.

I wonder if it was on Hillary's server? (Along with scads of other information that was not supposed to ever be on a computer linked to the internet).

[TomSea]

This lockdown is actually working against us getting control of the virus.  The way to stop this virus is to develop a herd immunity.  Our most vulnerable --- our seniors and all with underlying medical conditions -- should continue to self-quarantine until the herd immunity takes hold..

But businesses and schools should reopen ... and if you and your family are well,  get back to work and get back to school.  Employers/schools can provide hand sanitizers, medical grade gloves, cans of Lysol.  Monitor your health ... but resume life.

Oh, and turn off ALL news shows.

Sigh

[roamer_1]

I got it covered. I just need to drop a line to my liquor store to order a fresh keg of beer [...]

Might oughta get a keg of Corona... Bet there's a discount price...

[roamer_1]

Talked to a local liquor store owner today and he mentioned the possibility that the store might be "shut down" here in Texas, as well.   He owns several stores around the country.  So I'm making a trip tomorrow by there to get a bottle or two.   What the hell. 

He also said they had to close the BR there due to not being able to get TP or cleaning supplies.  I guess the employees there just bring their own TP?   Getting weirder.

I just happen to be sitting on 6 quarts of shine... Bartered payment for a couple computers... For medicinal purposes only, of course.

[Cyber Liberty]

Might oughta get a keg of Corona... Bet there's a discount price...

Exceptin' I don't care for Corona.

ETA:  Talked to my guy at the liquor store, they don't make Corona in kegs anymore, just the Corona Premium.  I did not know there is a "premium" version.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Sigh

No need for the snark @TomSea  If you had followed my post you'd have know I was referring to this very publication.

I sure hope you don't delete this post because your feelings are hurt. 

[roamer_1]

This lockdown is actually working against us getting control of the virus.  The way to stop this virus is to develop a herd immunity.  Our most vulnerable --- our seniors and all with underlying medical conditions -- should continue to self-quarantine until the herd immunity takes hold..

But businesses and schools should reopen ... and if you and your family are well,  get back to work and get back to school.  Employers/schools can provide hand sanitizers, medical grade gloves, cans of Lysol.  Monitor your health ... but resume life.

Oh, and turn off ALL news shows.

 
Well lookey here @Right_in_Virginia ... Hell must have frozen over.

[libertybele]

I just happen to be sitting on 6 quarts of shine... Bartered payment for a couple computers... For medicinal purposes only, of course.

Always good to have a quart or two on hand just in case ... 

[roamer_1]

Exceptin' I don't care for Corona.

ETA:  Talked to my guy at the liquor store, they don't make Corona in kegs anymore, just the Corona Premium.  I did not know there is a "premium" version.

I dunno... If it's Mexican, for me it's Tecate. 

But what do I know... I'm a PBR guy, with shades of Hamms and Keystone... Rainier if I can get it.
Ppl say I have an underdeveloped beer palate.
I say I'm just a cheap date 

[Elderberry]

The sickest I ever got was back in 2000 when that Spanish flu variant was making the rounds.  It took me about 6 days to recover - just enough time to get past cigarette withdrawal.  Haven't smoked a cigarette since.

That was around the time that both me and my wife were down with the flu. I didn't go out of the house for a week only to discover that there had been a hard freeze that busted the engine blocks in both my truck and my jeep. I was very lucky to be able to weld both of the cracks up. I still have that same engine in my jeep. I sold the truck some years back, but the engine was still going strong.

[Hoodat]

But what do I know... I'm a PBR guy, with shades of Hamms and Keystone...

[roamer_1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=036cVpnt1VU#

w00t! w00t!
 

[libertybele]

This lockdown is actually working against us getting control of the virus.  The way to stop this virus is to develop a herd immunity.  Our most vulnerable --- our seniors and all with underlying medical conditions -- should continue to self-quarantine until the herd immunity takes hold..

But businesses and schools should reopen ... and if you and your family are well,  get back to work and get back to school.  Employers/schools can provide hand sanitizers, medical grade gloves, cans of Lysol.  Monitor your health ... but resume life.

Oh, and turn off ALL news shows.

Well, that makes sense too.  The Chinese spread seemed to only stop though when they locked down millions of people ....

[Elderberry]

Coronavirus: Why does Germany have so few COVID-19 deaths?

Euronews by Anna Priese 3/16/2020

https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/13/coronavirus-why-does-germany-have-so-few-covid-19-deaths

On Friday, the number of people in Germany infected with COVID-19 grew to 3,059. Six of them have died so far. That is roughly two people for every thousand cases.

These numbers stand out when compared to other heavily affected countries like China, Italy, Iran, South Korea, Spain or France.

In China, it's roughly 39 deaths per 1,000 people infected, in Italy it's 71, in Iran 45 and in Spain it's 28.

On Friday, the number of people in Germany infected with COVID-19 grew to 3,059. Six of them have died so far. That is roughly two people for every thousand cases.

These numbers stand out when compared to other heavily affected countries like China, Italy, Iran, South Korea, Spain or France.

In China, it's roughly 39 deaths per 1,000 people infected, in Italy it's 71, in Iran 45 and in Spain it's 28.   

How come fewer people are dying from COVID-19 in Germany than elsewhere?

At a press conference last Wednesday, Prof. Dr. Lothar H. Wieler, President of the Robert Koch Institute in Berlin said, "From the beginning, we have very systematically called upon our doctors to test people."

He added that the German system can provide "testing to a high degree so that we can easily look into the beginnings of the epidemic."

Wieler also explained that this is just the beginning for Germany. "If you imagine an epidemic like a curve [...] then there are countries that are simply further" into the progression of this epidemic.

He expects the case numbers and the numbers of deaths to rise, just like they have in other affected countries.

More at link.

[jmyrlefuller]

Diamond Princess Mysteries

We had a perfect petri-dish coronavirus disease (COVID-19) experiment with the cruise ship “Diamond Princess”. That’s the cruise ship that ended up in quarantine for a number of weeks after a number of people tested positive for the coronavirus. I got to wondering what the outcome of the experiment was.

So I dug around and found an analysis of the situation, with the catchy title of Estimating the infection and case fatality ratio for COVID-19 using age-adjusted data from the outbreak on the Diamond Princess cruise ship (PDF), so I could see what the outcomes were.

As you might imagine, before they knew it was a problem, the epidemic raged on the ship, with infected crew members cooking and cleaning for the guests, people all eating together, close living quarters, lots of social interaction, and a generally older population. Seems like a perfect situation for an overwhelming majority of the passengers to become infected.

And despite that, some 83% (82.7% – 83.9%) of the passengers never got the disease at all … why?

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/16/diamond-princess-mysteries/

[Hoodat]

How come fewer people are dying from COVID-19 in Germany than elsewhere?

At a press conference last Wednesday, Prof. Dr. Lothar H. Wieler, President of the Robert Koch Institute in Berlin said, "From the beginning, we have very systematically called upon our doctors to test people."

The disparity between Germany and Italy, for example could be the result of more extensive testing in Germany.  There could be those in Italy who have the virus, but never get tested, yet all those who die get tested.  But in Germany, with more people getting tested,  they are able to identify those who will never come down with severe symptoms as positive cases, thus increasing the denominator, while in Italy, such people are never included.

Let's say that Germany tests 100,000 people.  3,000 test positive.  Six die.  In Italy, they test only 1,000 people.  Eighty test positive.  Six die.  But another 80 who also had the disease never got tested because their symptoms were mild.

Just something to consider.  The number of people being tested is not uniform across the globe.

[DB]

The disparity between Germany and Italy, for example could be the result of more extensive testing in Germany.  There could be those in Italy who have the virus, but never get tested, yet all those who die get tested.  But in Germany, with more people getting tested,  they are able to identify those who will never come down with severe symptoms as positive cases, thus increasing the denominator, while in Italy, such people are never included.

Let's say that Germany tests 100,000 people.  3,000 test positive.  Six die.  In Italy, they test only 1,000 people.  Eighty test positive.  Six die.  But another 80 who also had the disease never got tested because their symptoms were mild.

Just something to consider.  The number of people being tested is not uniform across the globe.

Apparently Italy has a large number of Chinese that travel to and from of China regularly related to the fashion industry. They received a large dose of the COVID-19 virus all at once. And then they went on vacation when the government shut things down instead of isolating themselves. And it spread quickly.

[Smokin Joe]

There is a direct correlation between the public reaction and the number of minutes spent watching CNN.

Right!

[Smokin Joe]

Yeah, you got any proof of this or other remarks? Are you can expert on this? Posting the video of some doctor who has used cocaine?

https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/not-perfect-dr-drew-opens-cocaine-alcohol-article-1.2248472

Sure. I haven't watched one second of CNN, and I'm calm.

There's one endpoint for you. How much CNN have you watched since the outbreak started?

[Chosen Daughter]

"letting" implies a choice. When there is more demand than resources available some people go without. That is a simple fact of life. Thank your lucky stars it isn't you faced with that dilemma.

As far as rage goes, that should be directed at China - later, the source of all this. Even if it didn't come out of a Chinese lab (I think it likely did) their lies and inaction following the beginning of outbreak greatly increased the damage to the rest of the world.

Were you replying to a different thread?  Reading this I was thinking you might be talking about letting people die?

I also believe that this came out of the Chinese Lab.  But Iran would never blame their Allies in China.