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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #125 on: January 26, 2020, 02:06:28 am »
[He isn't a Dr.


Neither are you.

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Injury is a wound even if it isn't open.

No,it's not. Show me ONE veteran that got a Purple Heart for a brain concussion.

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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #126 on: January 26, 2020, 02:08:09 am »
@truth_seeker

ALL of who served knows what happened. Trump called the senior officer there,and asked "How many were killed or wounded?". The General TRUTHFULLY answered "None" because a concussion is not considered to be a wound,so Trump tells everybody no soldiers were hurt or killed in the attack,which is what he believes to be true,based on what he was told.

I never served, but this to me seems more likely and perfectly logical.  Why is it that this is the focus rather than on a ruthless, murderer of Americans and his own people was silenced, American lives were saved, but somehow people keep trying any which way they can to turn it into a negative?  The President did NOT allow this to turn into another Benghazi. Hello.... We should be celebrating!!!  Benghazi got covered up, was lied about ... and one of those responsible for the incident, was never held accountable and ran for president. 

Our President does his darn job, saves American lives is criticized and impeached!  What's wrong with that picture???
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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #127 on: January 26, 2020, 02:08:31 am »
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This president loves the US Military more than any past president has, and has done more for the US Military than past presidents have.  That's an indisputable fact.

Maybe you should ask a soldier who's actually served before you go speaking for all of us.
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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #128 on: January 26, 2020, 02:08:50 am »
@sneakypete
Sometimes that moral support is that important...

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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #129 on: January 26, 2020, 02:09:20 am »
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ALL of who served knows what happened. Trump called the senior officer there,and asked "How many were killed or wounded?". The General TRUTHFULLY answered "None" because a concussion is not considered to be a wound,so Trump tells everybody no soldiers were hurt or killed in the attack,which is what he believes to be true,based on what he was told.

@sneakypete nice work of fiction and speculation.
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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #130 on: January 26, 2020, 02:11:28 am »
@sneakypete nice work of fiction and speculation.

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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #131 on: January 26, 2020, 02:12:54 am »
Years ago when the company I worked for got email capability we had to take a class on email etiquette and the big take away from that was no one can see you.
When you talk with someone face to face, you words combined with your facial expressions and gestures tell the person you are talking to if you are happy, sad, angry etc. so your tone, tenor and words are not the total message.  How ever with email/messages you don't have the luxury of "smoothing" out your tone and tenor with your physical presence so you have to be aware that the humor in your head is not necessarily coming thru your message.

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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #132 on: January 26, 2020, 02:17:21 am »

Our President does his darn job, saves American lives is criticized and impeached!  What's wrong with that picture???

Again, they b*tch about the man's style over the substance of his actions.

They simply don't like him and its all they've got.
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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #133 on: January 26, 2020, 02:19:46 am »
I never served, but this to me seems more likely and perfectly logical.  Why is it that this is the focus rather than on a ruthless, murderer of Americans and his own people was silenced, American lives were saved, but somehow people keep trying any which way they can to turn it into a negative?  The President did NOT allow this to turn into another Benghazi. Hello.... We should be celebrating!!!  Benghazi got covered up, was lied about ... and one of those responsible for the incident, was never held accountable and ran for president. 

Our President does his darn job, saves American lives is criticized and impeached!  What's wrong with that picture???

I am sure not shedding any tears for Soleimani.  But Trump shouldn't have lied about imminent threat.  It should make every American mad.  I sure would not be celebrating that any troops were injured in the aftermath of that decision.  Glad Soleimani is dead but not glad Trump lies about it.  Not glad he lies about American injuries also.
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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #134 on: January 26, 2020, 02:23:29 am »
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Eat my shorts.

Yeah...that's what I thought you'd say.
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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #135 on: January 26, 2020, 02:28:30 am »
@sneakypete
Sometimes that moral support is that important... it was a rough year for us when my son was over there but we had family close by..

Well, I look at it differently...I know you have seen action but it is hard being at home...hearing the news...every time a chopper went down my heart sank...and I waited for a phone call....luckily that call never came to me but it came to others that I knew....it is hard for those who sit and wait and having support from others really helped me.
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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #136 on: January 26, 2020, 02:32:31 am »
I was one of those biddies...that group helped me get through 2 tours of Iraq for my husband and 1 tour for my son....and the same for @musiclady as her son was there when my husband was...if it wasn't for those *biddies* I would have lost my mind with worry

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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #137 on: January 26, 2020, 02:33:39 am »
I was one of those biddies...that group helped me get through 2 tours of Iraq for my husband and 1 tour for my son....and the same for @musiclady as her son was there when my husband was...if it wasn't for those *biddies* I would have lost my mind with worry

Wow.  I can't imagine; the worry I think would have killed me or l likely too would have lost my mind.  My son wanted to join the military when he got out of high school and I discouraged it.  I think he holds some resentment and I probably should have let him go -- I see now how selfish I was.

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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #138 on: January 26, 2020, 02:34:14 am »
Again, they b*tch about the man's style over the substance of his actions.

They simply don't like him and its all they've got.

Well, as I said a hundred pages ago, I don't believe Trump has style or substance.  Perhaps I could put up with his rough edges if he did his job, but he hasn't.

By the way, since when is it a terrible thing to call out the president if appropriate?  Last I heard, we still have freedom of speech in this country.

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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #139 on: January 26, 2020, 02:34:33 am »
Well, I look at it differently...I know you have seen action but it is hard being at home...hearing the news...every time a chopper went down my heart sank...and I waited for a phone call....luckily that call never came to me but it came to others that I knew....it is hard for those who sit and wait and having support from others really helped me.

I have wanted to share something here for quite awhile.  I type it and delete it because I don't want our grief to be open to discussion.  It is just that we have lost a loved one to the Iraq war.  Its hard, and I appreciate your sacrifice and am glad that your husband came home safe.
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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #140 on: January 26, 2020, 02:38:35 am »
I have wanted to share something here for quite awhile.  I type it and delete it because I don't want our grief to be open to discussion.  It is just that we have lost a loved one to the Iraq war.  Its hard, and I appreciate your sacrifice and am glad that your husband came home safe.

My deepest sympathies on your loss.  You and your family are in my prayers.

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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #141 on: January 26, 2020, 02:43:54 am »
I have wanted to share something here for quite awhile.  I type it and delete it because I don't want our grief to be open to discussion.  It is just that we have lost a loved one to the Iraq war.  Its hard, and I appreciate your sacrifice and am glad that your husband came home safe.

Oh wow...I am so sorry to hear this....my deepest sympathies.... 8888crybaby

I was one of the lucky ones..my husband and son came home... :crying:
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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #142 on: January 26, 2020, 02:45:50 am »
Well, I look at it differently...I know you have seen action but it is hard being at home...hearing the news...every time a chopper went down my heart sank...and I waited for a phone call....luckily that call never came to me but it came to others that I knew....it is hard for those who sit and wait and having support from others really helped me.

I have also seen action @mystery-ak and I much prefer that to what you, and all those like you, had to endure.  I knew where I was and what I was up against (at least most of the time) and you didn't.  I'll take my part over yours any day and twice on Sunday.
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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #143 on: January 26, 2020, 02:49:15 am »
Trump is his own worst enemy.  He is doing his best to destroy his own election and this thing with injuries is a good example.  He baits the left to take him on.  And with something like this he can't afford to lose support of Veterans.  Yet we are poo pooing the opinions of Vets about injuries.  He should apologize, but he won't.  If he can make enemies he will.  Himself without help from the left.
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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #144 on: January 26, 2020, 02:50:08 am »
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Again, they b*tch about the man's style over the substance of his actions.

They simply don't like him and its all they've got.

The "style" was to gloss over what happened to make it sound like the Iranians didn't hurt anyone.

The "substance" was that he blatantly lied about the severity of the injuries to some of my fellow soldiers.
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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #145 on: January 26, 2020, 02:54:27 am »
I have also seen action @mystery-ak and I much prefer that to what you, and all those like you, had to endure.  I knew where I was and what I was up against (at least most of the time) and you didn't.  I'll take my part over yours any day and twice on Sunday.

That's what Mike used to say....plus I had a son who constantly volunteered for patrols...glad I never have to go through that again..... 9999hair out0000
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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #146 on: January 26, 2020, 02:57:05 am »
That's what Mike used to say....plus I had a son who constantly volunteered for patrols...glad I never have to go through that again..... 9999hair out0000

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Re: Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries
« Reply #147 on: January 26, 2020, 02:58:37 am »
Oh wow...I am so sorry to hear this....my deepest sympathies.... 8888crybaby

I was one of the lucky ones..my husband and son came home... :crying:

Thank you.  It sure changed my view on Iraq.  I had many emotions concerning the direction that the country took.  And wondered why we went there and then they just created a Sharia Law Constitution.  I don't like Bush much.  I liked him and then I hated him.  Because I couldn't see the end game that would result in what I originally thought we were doing there.  Then Obama pulling the troops out was more idiocy.  It was sacrifice for nothing.
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« Reply #148 on: January 26, 2020, 03:04:12 am »
Thank you.  It sure changed my view on Iraq.  I had many emotions concerning the direction that the country took.  And wondered why we went there and then they just created a Sharia Law Constitution.  I don't like Bush much.  I liked him and then I hated him.  Because I couldn't see the end game that would result in what I originally thought we were doing there.  Then Obama pulling the troops out was more idiocy.  It was sacrifice for nothing.

The Department of State has much blood on its hands and, IMHO, THAT is where you should be directing your ire.  The problem in the ME  was Iran then and remains Iran today although the current president's recent actions have somewhat alleviated that temporarily.
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« Reply #149 on: January 26, 2020, 03:18:16 am »
The Department of State has much blood on its hands and, IMHO, THAT is where you should be directing your ire.  The problem in the ME  was Iran then and remains Iran today although the current president's recent actions have somewhat alleviated that temporarily.

That's the thing about getting rid of terrorists.  There is always another waiting to lead them.  Temporarily is right.  Yes it is Iran and they sure moved in once the troops were diminished in Iraq.  I feel the same today.  I want everyone's family to come home but ISIS is not 100% gone.  If we leave there will be a resurgence from Iran and ISIS. 
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