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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2975 on: March 21, 2020, 07:02:32 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on March 21, 2020, 05:36:13 pm
I hope not.  Definitely sitting more than usual.  Getting my walks in though.  We're not under lockdown, but I fit into the high risk category so staying at home for the most part.

Maybe I should print the pic -- it will remind me to get up and move more!
I think I'll put that on  the fridge.... :whistle:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2976 on: March 21, 2020, 07:03:50 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on March 21, 2020, 06:57:05 pm
Please stop the slander.

Please.

I second that.  Nerves are frayed from the non-stop ocean of slime coming out of our TeeVees, so stop accusing people of being driven by panic.  If they were, they would not be on this forum.

Remember, one person's "hype" is another person's "concern."  Accusing worried people of hysteria adds nothing to the conversation and if the goal is to calm people down, that ain't cutting it.

I'm not gonna list names, y'all know who I'm talking to.  Don't make us lock Tom's very important news feed.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2977 on: March 21, 2020, 07:08:53 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 21, 2020, 07:03:50 pm
I second that.  Nerves are frayed from the non-stop ocean of slime coming out of our TeeVees, so stop accusing people of being driven by panic.  If they were, they would not be on this forum.

Remember, one person's "hype" is another person's "concern."  Accusing worried people of hysteria adds nothing to the conversation and if the goal is to calm people down, that ain't cutting it.

I'm not gonna list names, y'all know who I'm talking to.  Don't make us lock Tom's very important news feed.

Thank you.

The thing is, I am staying at home calm as I can be (other than grave concern that my d-i-l, a nurse, is on the front lines of battle), and have posted facts and information I am learning from calm, intelligent medical leaders.

I am taking this health threat seriously, and urging others to do the same.

And I do not want to be lied about any more.   :shrug:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2978 on: March 21, 2020, 07:14:29 pm »
With my usual Fuller's Rule for Life caveat "Never trust anything published in The Lancet"

Viral dynamics in mild and severe cases of COVID-19
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30232-2/fulltext

Short version: those who had more of the virus in their system had a worse outcome than those who only had a small amount of virus in their system, the latter of which also were able to shed the virus from their bodies more quickly.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2979 on: March 21, 2020, 07:20:30 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on March 21, 2020, 07:08:53 pm
Thank you.

The thing is, I am staying at home calm as I can be (other than grave concern that my d-i-l, a nurse, is on the front lines of battle), and have posted facts and information I am learning from calm, intelligent medical leaders.

I am taking this health threat seriously, and urging others to do the same.

And I do not want to be lied about any more.   :shrug:

That's where we are.  We're fine, can afford everything we need to hunker down and have plenty of TP.  I'm worried about the others.  I mentioned somewhere we have a total population of about 35K, and 8K work across the river at the Nevada casinos and hotels.  They were all thrown out of work a few days ago when the Governor of that state ordered all Casinos and Restaurants closed, which also closed the Hotels.

I don't want a damned thing from Uncle Sugar.  Don't send me cash because I paid taxes in 2018, and don't throw $200 on my SS bennies like Pelosi's pushing.  Help those other people first.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2980 on: March 21, 2020, 07:21:45 pm »
Claim they're going shopping: Border officials allow hundreds of Mexican vehicles to cross despite Trump ban
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/claim-theyre-going-shopping-border-officials-allow-hundreds-of-mexican-vehicles-to-cross-despite-trump-ban

This is the deal, one can break these bans effectively by just claiming you are going shopping, it be in town, city or on the border.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2981 on: March 21, 2020, 07:24:56 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on March 21, 2020, 07:21:45 pm
Claim they're going shopping: Border officials allow hundreds of Mexican vehicles to cross despite Trump ban
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/claim-theyre-going-shopping-border-officials-allow-hundreds-of-mexican-vehicles-to-cross-despite-trump-ban

This is the deal, one can break these bans effectively by just claiming you are going shopping, it be in town, city or on the border.

What kind of shopping?  In my state the stores, other than grocery stores, are closed.  There's no place to shop.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2982 on: March 21, 2020, 07:26:48 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 21, 2020, 07:20:30 pm
That's where we are.  We're fine, can afford everything we need to hunker down and have plenty of TP.  I'm worried about the others.  I mentioned somewhere we have a total population of about 35K, and 8K work across the river at the Nevada casinos and hotels.  They were all thrown out of work a few days ago when the Governor of that state ordered all Casinos and Restaurants closed, which also closed the Hotels.

I don't want a damned thing from Uncle Sugar.  Don't send me cash because I paid taxes in 2018, and don't throw $200 on my SS bennies like Pelosi's pushing.  Help those other people first.

The idea of giving out checks is HORRIBLE.

In Ohio, they are working hard to help those out of work with accelerated unemployment checks and delays in utility payments, etc.

Giving checks to everyone regardless of circumstances is just a wretched idea!
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2983 on: March 21, 2020, 07:27:36 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on March 21, 2020, 07:24:56 pm
What kind of shopping?  In my state the stores, other than grocery stores, are closed.  There's no place to shop.

When I used to go to the border towns, most Mexicans I saw coming to the US were hitting the grocery stores.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2984 on: March 21, 2020, 07:28:44 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 21, 2020, 07:27:36 pm
When I used to go to the border towns, most Mexicans I saw coming to the US were hitting the grocery stores.

OK.  Then maybe they are going shopping.

Still need to be stopped at the border.

NOW.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2985 on: March 21, 2020, 07:29:45 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on March 21, 2020, 07:26:48 pm
The idea of giving out checks is HORRIBLE.

In Ohio, they are working hard to help those out of work with accelerated unemployment checks and delays in utility payments, etc.

Giving checks to everyone regardless of circumstances is just a wretched idea!

The idea, as poorly thought out as it is, is to throw money all around in hopes that we'll spend money we otherwise would not, and that would have zero effect on the sectors that are hurting (especially if I'm not even allowed to do the things that would help).
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2986 on: March 21, 2020, 07:30:55 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on March 21, 2020, 07:28:44 pm
OK.  Then maybe they are going shopping.

Still need to be stopped at the border.

NOW.

Agreed.  We can't properly screen them to make sure they aren't walking in a dreaded disease.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2987 on: March 21, 2020, 07:59:28 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on March 21, 2020, 06:57:05 pm
Please stop the slander.

Please.
It is not slander when someone lies.

And you do.

I repeat:  stop saying people on this board believe there is nothing to this virus.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2988 on: March 21, 2020, 08:07:23 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on March 21, 2020, 07:59:28 pm
It is not slander when someone lies.

And you do.

I repeat:  stop saying people on this board believe there is nothing to this virus.

That's a misrepresentation what what's being posted, and I'd appreciate it a lot of we could not call other good Members liars.  I don't want to have to start editing posts, it pisses everybody off.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2989 on: March 21, 2020, 08:14:44 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on March 21, 2020, 07:26:48 pm
The idea of giving out checks is HORRIBLE.

In Ohio, they are working hard to help those out of work with accelerated unemployment checks and delays in utility payments, etc.

Giving checks to everyone regardless of circumstances is just a wretched idea!

Yes ... on the other hand, just the other day, we had one of the highest employment rates in history and then all of a sudden ... poof...these people are unemployed; massive unemployment.  People still somehow have to put food in their bellies, pay their rent or mortgage, utilities, insurance, etc.  With this amount of people out of work, I imagine that first unemployment check is going to take awhile.  Many people live paycheck to paycheck, what do they do in the meantime?  Friends, family and neighbors are hurting to ... and then there's the mandated shutdown for some and social distancing. 
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2990 on: March 21, 2020, 08:24:49 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on March 21, 2020, 07:59:28 pm
It is not slander when someone lies.

And you do.

I repeat:  stop saying people on this board believe there is nothing to this virus.

Anyone else notice the WSJ Op-Ed thread on the economic impact of COVID-19 was locked?

Imagine that.....
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2991 on: March 21, 2020, 08:27:20 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on March 21, 2020, 08:14:44 pm
Yes ... on the other hand, just the other day, we had one of the highest employment rates in history and then all of a sudden ... poof...these people are unemployed; massive unemployment.  People still somehow have to put food in their bellies, pay their rent or mortgage, utilities, insurance, etc.  With this amount of people out of work, I imagine that first unemployment check is going to take awhile.  Many people live paycheck to paycheck, what do they do in the meantime?  Friends, family and neighbors are hurting to ... and then there's the mandated shutdown for some and social distancing.

A culture shock is underway, and that's the stuff that keeps people awake at night.  I tell ya, I'd be really upset if I was still working.  We're set, but I worry about the others. 

On top of that, I have to watch the DeeCee bastards even closer than before because I know how they feel about crises.  They're opportunities to further restrict our freedom and our way of life.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2992 on: March 21, 2020, 08:31:35 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on March 21, 2020, 08:24:49 pm
Anyone else notice the WSJ Op-Ed thread on the economic impact of COVID-19 was locked?

Imagine that.....

On TBR?  I don't see it.  Usually threads get locked because we're overwhelmed by personal attacks and such.  We don't like doing it but sometimes it's the only way to get people to cool off, and then we unlock them.

ETA:  If you know where it is, please let me know to see if I should unlock it.
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« Reply #2993 on: March 21, 2020, 08:33:40 pm »
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2994 on: March 21, 2020, 08:42:42 pm »
Please stop the bickering, everyone is stressed out....My son was laid off the other day and he became one of the many thousands unemployed. He can't even file for unemployment insurance as the site has crashed..and their doors are locked...
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2995 on: March 21, 2020, 08:44:16 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on March 21, 2020, 08:24:49 pm
Anyone else notice the WSJ Op-Ed thread on the economic impact of COVID-19 was locked?

Imagine that.....

Here?...I did want to post an article from the WSJ today or yesterday but you have to me a member to even read it..
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2996 on: March 21, 2020, 08:49:56 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 21, 2020, 07:20:30 pm
That's where we are.  We're fine, can afford everything we need to hunker down and have plenty of TP.  I'm worried about the others.  I mentioned somewhere we have a total population of about 35K, and 8K work across the river at the Nevada casinos and hotels.  They were all thrown out of work a few days ago when the Governor of that state ordered all Casinos and Restaurants closed, which also closed the Hotels.

@Cyber Liberty

I currently have a vacation planned for the area in two weeks.  Not gambling, but I was flying into LAS and then trekking out from there into Utah and AZ.  But with everything closed in LV, I am guessing that this is no longer an option.  What is the word on the street?  Is it still worth chancing, or should I go to Hawaii instead?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2997 on: March 21, 2020, 08:50:50 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on March 21, 2020, 08:44:16 pm
Here?...I did want to post an article from the WSJ today or yesterday but you have to me a member to even read it..

I'm not a big fan of WSJ because of that, but sometimes they have exclusives we don't want to miss.

I want to reiterate something: Everybody, please stop the fighting among ourselves!  That's how the Rat bastards get us down.  Holy smoke, we all have strong opinions, or we would not be Briefers!!

A little respect for the Forum, if all y'all can't summon it up for fellow Members!
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2998 on: March 21, 2020, 08:51:10 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on March 21, 2020, 08:42:42 pm
Please stop the bickering, everyone is stressed out....My son was laid off the other day and he became one of the many thousands unemployed. He can't even file for unemployment insurance as the site has crashed..and their doors are locked...
Sorry to hear that.

I have a feeling all this will be over in about a week - two, tops - and the economy/jobs will come screaming back with a friggen vengeance. And your son will be back sitting in commuter traffic in no time. :patriot:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2999 on: March 21, 2020, 08:51:31 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 21, 2020, 08:07:23 pm
That's a misrepresentation what what's being posted, and I'd appreciate it a lot of we could not call other good Members liars.  I don't want to have to start editing posts, it pisses everybody off.
No misrepresentation.  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,388835.msg2173288.html#msg2173288

And the poster should read up on this on tactics to remain healthy.

How Fear Makes You Sick
https://lissarankin.com/how-fear-makes-you-sick/

Why You May Be Irrationally Freaked Out About Coronavirus (& How To Relax)
https://lissarankin.com/why-you-may-be-irrationally-freaked-out-about-coronavirus-how-to-relax/

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