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[Neverdul]

(Pennsylvania) Gov. Wolf orders all non-life-sustaining businesses to close to slow spread of coronavirus

HARRISBURG, Pa. — Governor Tom Wolf has ordered all non-life-sustaining businesses in Pennsylvania to close their physical locations by 8 p.m., Thursday, to slow the spread of the coronavirus, COVID-19.

Enforcement against businesses that don't close physical locations will start on Saturday,March 21, at 12:01 a.m.

https://local21news.com/news/local/gov-wolf-orders-all-non-life-sustaining-businesses-to-close-to-slow-spread-of-covid-19

Full list:

https://www.scribd.com/document/452416026/20200319-Life-Sustaining-Business#fullscreen&from_embed

This was announced at 6PM so a 3 hours notice to those business that need to close.

 

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Just boarded a plane.  Nine passengers total.  And this is the busy flight.

The busiest airport in the world is almost deserted.  I feel safer here than at the grocery store.

@Hoodat
I went to my bank drive-thru to make a deposit today.  I thought the lines were long for mid afternoon, but I rarely go to my bank anymore so  .  All the banks have closed their lobbies without an appointment.  A sign at the drive-thru said I could only withdraw $2,000 daily.  kinda spooky.  I filled out the form with a pen they thoughtfully included in the drive-thru cabbie.  It's the pen every car in front of me used since the last pen was stolen.  Then I deposited my germ infested money and started touching my face before realizing I had no Purell in my truck.

I sprayed myself with windex when I got home.

I'm not safe to be left by myself in my truck.

[DB]

In that case @DB it appears that one of us needs more lessons in reading comprehension.  Where is the line?  Can YOU or @musiclady tell me?

What is your life really worth if ANYONE or ANYTHING has this much power over it?

Really?

[DB]

@Hoodat
I went to my bank drive-thru to make a deposit today.  I thought the lines were long for mid afternoon, but I rarely go to my bank anymore so  .  All the banks have closed their lobbies without an appointment.  A sign at the drive-thru said I could only withdraw $2,000 daily.  kinda spooky.  I filled out the form with a pen they thoughtfully included in the drive-thru cabbie.  It's the pen every car in front of me used since the last pen was stolen.  Then I deposited my germ infested money and started touching my face before realizing I had no Purell in my truck.

I sprayed myself with windex when I got home.

I'm not safe to be left by myself in my truck.

Well at least you got degreased...

[Applewood]

(Pennsylvania) Gov. Wolf orders all non-life-sustaining businesses to close to slow spread of coronavirus

HARRISBURG, Pa. — Governor Tom Wolf has ordered all non-life-sustaining businesses in Pennsylvania to close their physical locations by 8 p.m., Thursday, to slow the spread of the coronavirus, COVID-19.

Enforcement against businesses that don't close physical locations will start on Saturday,March 21, at 12:01 a.m.

https://local21news.com/news/local/gov-wolf-orders-all-non-life-sustaining-businesses-to-close-to-slow-spread-of-covid-19

Full list:

https://www.scribd.com/document/452416026/20200319-Life-Sustaining-Business#fullscreen&from_embed

This was announced at 6PM so a 3 hours notice to those business that need to close.

 

Wolf isn't called Goobernor for nothing.

[Bigun]

Really?

Yes @DB Really!

[TomSea]

There's no guarantee that if we act differently in this crisis, trillions in dollars may be saved

There's no guarantee it will be worse either. Or better for that matter .

Ignoring the danger of doing nothing is potential as well.  It could really spread.

Besides many other threads on the coronavirus, in editorials, there is that "hold your nose" thread.

We are asked to sacrifice staying home, I'm not going to continue to repeat the same thing over and over.

Cost to save some lives? This does not seen to take into account that many under 50 are still needing ICUs, doctors and so on so the save some lives at losing trillions is not really what it is about or realistic, it is sort of a broken record.

[Neverdul]

Wolf isn't called Goobernor for nothing.

Did you look at the list?

One of the listed bussiness is employment services. There goes the job interview I had scheduled, unless we can do it via skype, waiting to hear.

[skeeter]

For those in 'locked down' regions many food serving establishments are still open for pick up and they badly need our support.

If you have a chance do a good deed and order something to go. It may mean someone gets to keep their job.

[Applewood]

Did you look at the list?

One of the listed bushiness is employment services. There goes the job interview I had scheduled, unless we can do it via skype, waiting to hear.

I did.  This is getting ridiculous.  Hope you can proceed with the interview somehow.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

200 US dead.  Over 50 dead today.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Who wants to tell me "so what?" and auto accidents?

[skeeter]

200 US dead.  Over 50 dead today.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Who wants to tell me so what?

According to your source 0% of active cases are critical.

Good news, no?

[Applewood]

For those in 'locked down' regions many food serving establishments are still open for pick up and they badly need our support.

If you have a chance do a good deed and order something to go. It may mean someone gets to keep their job.

In an email today, a friend forwarded a Facebook post from her friend along those lines -- but with emphasis on small, local Mom and Pop restaurants and other businesses.   I'm going to be busy Saturday, so I will be getting delivery from the little Italian joint up the street (they make the best eggplant parmigiana).

[musiclady]

For those in 'locked down' regions many food serving establishments are still open for pick up and they badly need our support.

If you have a chance do a good deed and order something to go. It may mean someone gets to keep their job.

Supporting local restaurants is very important in the coming weeks.  Some in our area are doing some creative advertising to make sure people know they’re open.

We plan to order out a couple of times this weekend even though we usually just eat at home.

[musiclady]

Did you look at the list?

One of the listed bussiness is employment services. There goes the job interview I had scheduled, unless we can do it via skype, waiting to hear.

Sounds like they’re doing everything wrong that Ohio is doing right.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Is anyone else feeling overwhelmed by this? And depressed?

I am depressed by the overwhelming negativism exhibited by some.

Uncertainty is fearful.  If you let fear control you, you will not remain healthy enough to fight a virus physically, mentally or spiritually.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

According to your source 0% of active cases are critical.

Good news, no?

"my source" lists 64 as serious or critical...the number has risen incremental every day.  What hasn't risen much is the number discharged or testing negative after a positive.

[Neverdul]

According to your source 0% of active cases are critical.

Good news, no?

It shows

13,428
Currently Infected Patients

13,364 (100%)
in Mild Condition

64 (0%)
Serious or Critical

So their %'s are wrong

[skeeter]

@musiclady @Applewood

I friggen LOVE Eggplant Parmagiana.

[skeeter]

"my source" lists 64 as serious or critical...the number has risen incremental every day.  What hasn't risen much is the number discharged or testing negative after a positive.

So, not good news.

[musiclady]

@musiclady @Applewood

I friggen LOVE Eggplant Parmagiana.

Order some take out!

It's your patriotic duty! 

[skeeter]

It shows

13,428
Currently Infected Patients

13,364 (100%)
in Mild Condition

64 (0%)
Serious or Critical

So their %'s are wrong

You are right - the correct number of serious or critical is .0047%

[Formerly Once-Ler]

It shows

13,428
Currently Infected Patients

13,364 (100%)
in Mild Condition

64 (0%)
Serious or Critical

So their %'s are wrong

64 is 0% rounded for 0.47%

[Applewood]

@musiclady @Applewood

I friggen LOVE Eggplant Parmagiana.

The best Italian cuisine comes from local restaurants, not chains like Olive Garden.  I'm not sure what Olive Garden serves, but it isn't Italian food -- at least not the way my Italian mother made it.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

I am depressed by the overwhelming negativism exhibited by some.

Uncertainty is fearful.  If you let fear control you, you will not remain healthy enough to fight a virus physically, mentally or spiritually.

Leroy Jenkins wasn't scared.

[bigheadfred]

Is anyone else feeling overwhelmed by this? And depressed?

Sort of.

What depresses me about it is how it glaringly, blatantly proves just how many ignorant, stupid, greedy, lying MFers there are on this planet.

I don't know if this has been posted, but here goes. The NAME of this virus is...

SARS-CoV-2

They decided on Covid-19 so there wouldn't be a worldwide panic that a new SARS was on the loose and no one's feelings would get hurt.

[DB]

Sort of.

What depresses me about it is how it glaringly, blatantly proves just how many ignorant, stupid, greedy, lying MFers there are on this planet.

I don't know if this has been posted, but here goes. The NAME of this virus is...

SARS-CoV-2

They decided on Covid-19 so there wouldn't be a worldwide panic that a new SARS was on the loose and no one's feelings would get hurt.

I was wondering about that. Full PC...

Could call it Chinese take out...

[skeeter]

Order some take out!

It's your patriotic duty! 

I am THERE.

Ma'am!

[musiclady]

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-texas-public-health-disaster-abbott/269-fb3ef839-bf7a-4345-8e69-e63213825418?fbclid=IwAR3YTBEp3rR0Kx9o4H7SrPv2-EXwGd_DNyFSejSRU36bkfAfYtbOXEGuqSA

Texas governor: Schools, bars, restaurant dining rooms must close temporarily due to coronavirus
Abbott also issued a public health disaster statewide for the first time in more than 100 years.

Abbott is taking a serious situation seriously.

Texas in its first public health disaster in more than 100 years.

[musiclady]

I am THERE.

Ma'am!

 

Have some for me.  We're taking out Mexican on Sunday.

[TomSea]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

201 now... I'd have to say, I don't know if it is a steep incline but the numbers are really jumping, no matter what, it's certainly more than 16 incidences a day, however mathematically one looks at it since Wednesday.

And that Stanford professor?

Chinese Mother Who Paid $6.5 Million to Get Daughter into Stanford Says She Thought Money Was a Donation
https://time.com/5582697/chinese-mother-trick-stanford-admission/

This proves nothing I admit. But if there are some universities more likely to get Chinese money pumped into them, in the form of dollars of course, Stanford may well be as likely as a lot of places.

Let's hope Biden doesn't get in there, he discounted the threat of China even. WHO as articles have shown, is probably heavily influenced by China.


Well, what do we have here?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/stanford-is-giving-this-chinese-investor-200-million-1439854567
Stanford Is Giving This Chinese Investor $200 Million
Zhang Lei’s Hillhouse Capital is investing money for at least six of the 10 wealthiest U.S. universities

This would lend itself more to Chinese-influence



https://www.wsj.com/articles/stanford-is-giving-this-chinese-investor-200-million-1439854567

[skeeter]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

201 now... I'd have to say, I don't know if it is a steep incline but the numbers are really jumping, no matter what, it's certainly more than 16 incidences a day, however mathematically one looks at it since Wednesday.

And that Stanford professor?

This proves nothing I admit. But if there are some universities more likely to get Chinese money pumped into them, in the form of dollars of course, Stanford may well be as likely as a lot of places.

Let's hope Biden doesn't get in there, he discounted the threat of China even. WHO as articles have shown, is probably heavily influenced by China.

Well, what do we have here?

This would lend itself more to Chinese-influence

https://www.wsj.com/articles/stanford-is-giving-this-chinese-investor-200-million-1439854567

Gotta admit you have a legitimate point there. Certainly food for thought.

[aligncare]

Where were all the hard luck stories last year when twenty thousand lives were lost to the seasonal flu?

The media never interrupted news casts then with breathless breaking stories. But, now they are pulling all the right heart strings: a new strain of upper respiratory virus breaks out of China; a young corona victim dies; Rome deserted, under lock down; no hand sanitizer for the postman; death rates doubling; community spread, etc, ad nauseam.  Each new victim in each new state a breaking story.

But, these very same stories could have been told in 2018, as people contracted and died of the flu. But they weren’t told? Why?

In November there’s an election. I hate being emotionally manipulated by devious news editors and politicians and bureaucrats with personal agendas.

[bigheadfred]

I was wondering about that. Full PC...

Could call it Chinese take out...

yeah. Here is some CCP take out.

Coronavirus death rate in Wuhan is lower than previously thought

WTFE

A new study finds that the death rate in Wuhan, where the coronavirus outbreak started, is about 1.4%

(can I have another helping?)

The new estimate is based on data available as of Feb. 29. At that point, Wuhan had logged 48,557 COVID-19 cases and 2,169 deaths. The numbers have increased since then, but yesterday China reported no new local cases of the coronavirus, suggesting that China's epidemic is now under control.

(more PLEASE)

Meanwhile, cases of COVID-19 are increasing rapidly in most other parts of the globe, with Italy now reporting 41,035 cases and more deaths than China. Confirmed cases in the U.S. have been rising quickly as well, with more than 11,000 people diagnosed as of the evening of March 19.

[DB]

yeah. Here is some CCP take out.

Coronavirus death rate in Wuhan is lower than previously thought

WTFE

A new study finds that the death rate in Wuhan, where the coronavirus outbreak started, is about 1.4%

(can I have another helping?)

The new estimate is based on data available as of Feb. 29. At that point, Wuhan had logged 48,557 COVID-19 cases and 2,169 deaths. The numbers have increased since then, but yesterday China reported no new local cases of the coronavirus, suggesting that China's epidemic is now under control.

(more PLEASE)

Meanwhile, cases of COVID-19 are increasing rapidly in most other parts of the globe, with Italy now reporting 41,035 cases and more deaths than China. Confirmed cases in the U.S. have been rising quickly as well, with more than 11,000 people diagnosed as of the evening of March 19.

Whaatttt... You think the Chinese might be lying about their "new" statistics?

[skeeter]

yeah. Here is some CCP take out.

Coronavirus death rate in Wuhan is lower than previously thought

WTFE

A new study finds that the death rate in Wuhan, where the coronavirus outbreak started, is about 1.4%

(can I have another helping?)

The new estimate is based on data available as of Feb. 29. At that point, Wuhan had logged 48,557 COVID-19 cases and 2,169 deaths. The numbers have increased since then, but yesterday China reported no new local cases of the coronavirus, suggesting that China's epidemic is now under control.

(more PLEASE)

Meanwhile, cases of COVID-19 are increasing rapidly in most other parts of the globe, with Italy now reporting 41,035 cases and more deaths than China. Confirmed cases in the U.S. have been rising quickly as well, with more than 11,000 people diagnosed as of the evening of March 19.

Liner note - the US increase is due to a dramatic increase in testing throughput. That curve will flatten quickly.

[bigheadfred]

Whaatttt... You think the Chinese might be lying about their "new" statistics?

I don't have to think about it.



Photo credit: CNSA

[Formerly Once-Ler]

In November there’s an election. I hate being emotionally manipulated by devious news editors and politicians and bureaucrats with personal agendas.

Well then, don't.

[thackney]

It puts it in perspective.  Because statistics show that crossing the street is more dangerous than this virus at the moment in time.

Correction.  It used to be more dangerous.  Going forward from about two days ago, Covid-19 is killing more Americans per day and growing fast.

[Cyber Liberty]

Correction.  It used to be more dangerous.  Going forward from about two days ago, Covid-19 is killing more Americans per day and growing fast.

I still refuse to panic.

[txradioguy]

I still refuse to panic.

You and me both.

[bigheadfred]

I got sick 15 days ago. Started with a runny nose then got worse then went away after five days. Felt good for four days and for the last six I feel like crap. Not as bad today. I don't have the energy to panic over getting sick.

[musiclady]

I still refuse to panic.

There’s a big difference between being informed and aware and panic.

It seems that some prefer being ignorant to an honest discussion of what’s going on so they try to pretend nothing is happening.

[TomSea]

Man, I'd be outraged as can be:

https://abc7.com/politics/newsom-56%25-of-californians-are-expected-to-be-infected-with-covid-19/6028718/

Now, this is scaremongering and people are saying on twitter, everyone should march down to the governor's office and demand he resign.

You want scaremongering, check it out.

"Jaren Whitfield
@Jay_Whit89
·
1h
Gov. Newsom: how can we create more mass hysteria? I'VE GOT IT, tell them that 56% of Californians will get the virus in the next 8 weeks."

https://twitter.com/Jay_Whit89/status/1240777900107784192

https://twitter.com/search?q=%2256%25%20of%20Californians%22&src=trend_click   Twitter.

I'm not sure if this was reported yet and some of these comments are very recent.

[Hoodat]

I am depressed by the overwhelming negativism exhibited by some.

Uncertainty is fearful.  If you let fear control you, you will not remain healthy enough to fight a virus physically, mentally or spiritually.

@IsailedawayfromFR

Exactly.  We need to give more credence to good news and positive outcomes instead of being bombarded over and over again with fear-mongering headlines.  Our words shape our circumstances.  We can either get in agreement with G-d, or we can get in agreement with the enemy.


Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those who love it will eat its fruit.

Proverbs 18:21

[jmyrlefuller]

Is anyone else feeling overwhelmed by this? And depressed?

Yes, very much so.

I've had trouble sleeping the past few days. When I get stressed, I tend to get more social—but that's precisely what's being cracked down upon. I have a hard time eating (though since I'm a few pounds over what I want, this may help me get back closer to my target weight). I have been doing a lot of walking (maybe pacing); I walked so much that I got sore today.

Seeing the news, knowing that these "latest" numbers are almost two weeks behind the actual infections, is stressful. I'm still holding out some hope that we start seeing things taper off once the numbers from the "social distancing" era start trickling back in. I just want someone to hold me and tell me everything's OK.

[Hoodat]

@Hoodat
I sprayed myself with windex when I got home.

I'm not safe to be left by myself in my truck.

@Once-Ler

My wife says that I am not safe to be left anywhere.  But don't waste your Windex on this virus.  It is far too valuable for that.

[Hoodat]

"Jaren Whitfield
@Jay_Whit89
·
1h
Gov. Newsom: how can we create more mass hysteria? I'VE GOT IT, tell them that 56% of Californians will get the virus in the next 8 weeks."

https://twitter.com/Jay_Whit89/status/1240777900107784192

[Knock it off.  No personal attacks.]

[Smokin Joe]

Is anyone else feeling overwhelmed by this? And depressed?

Not really. I have put my faith in Our Creator, and know He will look out for us all, as He plans.

Not much I can do about His choices for me but to try and understand what He wants of me.
Instead of going to work today, I put together a care package for some folks, helped a youngster get his keys out of his locked car, and did a few other odds and ends I would not have had time to do If they hadn't stacked my drilling rig this morning. I'm out of work until the price of oil recovers. Which means I should likely look for work. But then, in the process of assembling the care package, I ran into an old boss from 34 years ago who asked me If I was working and may have a job for me.
Sometimes we are the tools He uses for others' benefit, and often that benefits us.
Everything has purpose, and our trials help us grow.

[Hoodat]

I got sick 15 days ago. Started with a runny nose then got worse then went away after five days. Felt good for four days and for the last six I feel like crap. Not as bad today. I don't have the energy to panic over getting sick.

@bigheadfred

Keep pumping fluids through your body.  And keep an abundance of Vitamin-C in your system.  You got this.